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Topic: BitShares PTS (formerly ProtoShares) Mandatory Upgrade & Snapshot Announcement - page 29. (Read 218428 times)

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.
Both overvalued.

pretty steady at $10.92  - http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts



It doesn't cost $11 to mine 1 ProtoShare, regardless of how hard it has become at the current difficulty, it's only 11 days old with 3/8 of it's supply already mined most of which was done at low difficulty over a couple of days of what the developer wanted to be weeks. It's Also been manipulated on the exchange to drive the price up so some of the early miners and buyers can cash out for a much higher value than it cost them too acquire in the first place.

I disagree -  in principal

true the difficulty had to be raised but , to be honest the whole "Bitshare" idea in its self was not well received , so there would have been zero expectation of the sort of reception PTS has received.

but the PoW and the new Blockchain algorithm kind of changed that ,  so the market was "caught off guard ",

then the follow though , was the way in  which it has seemed to be received in China and some of the clarifications around the principals of a DAC.

i believe the price is as it is because people expect that it will be much higher as these principals further develop .

having said that , more exchanges would help price discovery .

and more pools would help more people acquire it .

I wish I could disagree facts on principal of financial principals, but the reality is this isn't the first coin to do a new algorithm (badly might I add, from what others have done with miners going up 100s of percent, I'd would say the original implementation was either deliberately bad/sloppy or just rushed), be released first too a Chinese exchange, or too have an insanely unrealistic price evaluation early in it's life. I guess some people just have more money than sense, and just want too speculate on a factious value, gotta love free markets, right?


Bitcoin.
I seem to have struck a nerve, or you maybe your having a stroke and can only complete one word responses. Bitcoin was the first, you cant compare it to new coins as Bitcoin was/is the setup for theses markets in the first place.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
‘Try to be nice’
Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.
Both overvalued.

pretty steady at $10.92  - http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts



It doesn't cost $11 to mine 1 ProtoShare, regardless of how hard it has become at the current difficulty, it's only 11 days old with 3/8 of it's supply already mined most of which was done at low difficulty over a couple of days of what the developer wanted to be weeks. It's Also been manipulated on the exchange to drive the price up so some of the early miners and buyers can cash out for a much higher value than it cost them too acquire in the first place.

I disagree -  in principal

true the difficulty had to be raised but , to be honest the whole "Bitshare" idea in its self was not well received , so there would have been zero expectation of the sort of reception PTS has received.

but the PoW and the new Blockchain algorithm kind of changed that ,  so the market was "caught off guard ",

then the follow though , was the way in  which it has seemed to be received in China and some of the clarifications around the principals of a DAC.

i believe the price is as it is because people expect that it will be much higher as these principals further develop .

having said that , more exchanges would help price discovery .

and more pools would help more people acquire it .

I wish I could disagree facts on principal of financial principals, but the reality is this isn't the first coin to do a new algorithm (badly might I add, from what others have done with miners going up 100s of percent, I'd would say the original implementation was either deliberately bad/sloppy or just rushed), be released first too a Chinese exchange, or too have an insanely unrealistic price evaluation early in it's life. I guess some people just have more money than sense, and just want too speculate on a factious value, gotta love free markets, right?


Bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.
Both overvalued.

pretty steady at $10.92  - http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts



It doesn't cost $11 to mine 1 ProtoShare, regardless of how hard it has become at the current difficulty, it's only 11 days old with 3/8 of it's supply already mined most of which was done at low difficulty over a couple of days of what the developer wanted to be weeks. It's Also been manipulated on the exchange to drive the price up so some of the early miners and buyers can cash out for a much higher value than it cost them too acquire in the first place.

I disagree -  in principal

true the difficulty had to be raised but , to be honest the whole "Bitshare" idea in its self was not well received , so there would have been zero expectation of the sort of reception PTS has received.

but the PoW and the new Blockchain algorithm kind of changed that ,  so the market was "caught off guard ",

then the follow though , was the way in  which it has seemed to be received in China and some of the clarifications around the principals of a DAC.

i believe the price is as it is because people expect that it will be much higher as these principals further develop .

having said that , more exchanges would help price discovery .

and more pools would help more people acquire it .

I wish I could disagree facts on principal of financial principals, but the reality is this isn't the first coin to do a new algorithm (badly might I add, from what others have done with miners going up 100s of percent, I'd would say the original implementation was either deliberately bad/sloppy or just rushed), be released first too a Chinese exchange, or too have an insanely unrealistic price evaluation early in it's life. I guess some people just have more money than sense, and just want too speculate on a factious value, gotta love free markets, right?
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
who are the Devs behind this?

china coin 2.0 ?
member
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i see, will redirect there then thanks
newbie
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Merit: 0
god damn can someone make a pool that works more then a couple of hours? so tired of this crap ypool and beer goin down every couple of hours...
Beer pool has been up. Only the site is down.
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
god damn can someone make a pool that works more then a couple of hours? so tired of this crap ypool and beer goin down every couple of hours...
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
‘Try to be nice’
Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.
Both overvalued.

pretty steady at $10.92  - http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts



It doesn't cost $11 to mine 1 ProtoShare, regardless of how hard it has become at the current difficulty, it's only 11 days old with 3/8 of it's supply already mined most of which was done at low difficulty over a couple of days of what the developer wanted to be weeks. It's Also been manipulated on the exchange to drive the price up so some of the early miners and buyers can cash out for a much higher value than it cost them too acquire in the first place.

I disagree -  in principal

true the difficulty had to be raised but , to be honest the whole "Bitshare" idea in its self was not well received , so there would have been zero expectation of the sort of reception PTS has received.

but the PoW and the new Blockchain algorithm kind of changed that ,  so the market was "caught off guard ",

then the follow though , was the way in  which it has seemed to be received in China and some of the clarifications around the principals of a DAC.

i believe the price is as it is because people expect that it will be much higher as these principals further develop .

having said that , more exchanges would help price discovery .

and more pools would help more people acquire it .
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.
Both overvalued.

pretty steady at $10.92  - http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts



It doesn't cost $11 to mine 1 ProtoShare, regardless of how hard it has become at the current difficulty, it's only 11 days old with 3/8 of it's supply already mined most of which was done at low difficulty over a couple of days of what the developer wanted to be weeks. It's Also been manipulated on the exchange to drive the price up so some of the early miners and buyers can cash out for a much higher value than it cost them too acquire in the first place.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
‘Try to be nice’
member
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Merit: 10
can i manually withdraw from ypool?

No, you have to set a withdraw amount in your profile and they will send the coins once that threshold is met.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1045
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
can i manually withdraw from ypool?
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1018
does anyone get connections with the client?

Check if you have client version 0.2.0 and add nodes: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3486246
hero member
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does anyone get connections with the client?
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
I am getting maybe 1 PTS by mining for over a day. What is the total coin supply now?

I think it will reach a tipping point soon. With difficulty rising price will be nowhere near the effort spent to mine.



I get 10~12 PTS a day mining with 20 physical cores and 20 VPS cores. Before btc38.com went into maintenance mode, PTS was going for about $5.8 each. I hear on coingrounds, it goes for 0.008 BTC. Plus, don't know what the value will be once the genesis block start and all the PTS spawn 1:1 ratio of Bitshares, and what ever else spawns from PTS.

Are you saying after some changes price may even go up? I have not looked closely into bitshares and DAC.

I had mined one block solo and after that getting a very small return when I started pool mining. I am now wondering whether to sell now for almost 0.5 BTC or hold. Thats why I wanted to know what the current coin supply was.
Where did you get the impression that 1 PTS can be sold at 0.5 BTC? Really curious, because all sources I know have much lower price.

I said 1 block.
My bad. I didn't notice it. Smiley To sell it at 0.01BTC will not be difficult now. How about sell a half and keep the other half to see what will happen? Then you will get 0.25 BTC in the worst case, and don't need to regret too much in the best case.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
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Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.

Thanks.

I think I will hold for a sometime more and see how the price is.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
Need a campaign manager? PM me
I am getting maybe 1 PTS by mining for over a day. What is the total coin supply now?

I think it will reach a tipping point soon. With difficulty rising price will be nowhere near the effort spent to mine.



I get 10~12 PTS a day mining with 20 physical cores and 20 VPS cores. Before btc38.com went into maintenance mode, PTS was going for about $5.8 each. I hear on coingrounds, it goes for 0.008 BTC. Plus, don't know what the value will be once the genesis block start and all the PTS spawn 1:1 ratio of Bitshares, and what ever else spawns from PTS.

Are you saying after some changes price may even go up? I have not looked closely into bitshares and DAC.

I had mined one block solo and after that getting a very small return when I started pool mining. I am now wondering whether to sell now for almost 0.5 BTC or hold. Thats why I wanted to know what the current coin supply was.
Where did you get the impression that 1 PTS can be sold at 0.5 BTC? Really curious, because all sources I know have much lower price.

I said 1 block.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Current price is $7 per PTS
Current supply is 752,000  http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares
Current market cap: $5.2 million.
Both overvalued.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1003
I am getting maybe 1 PTS by mining for over a day. What is the total coin supply now?

I think it will reach a tipping point soon. With difficulty rising price will be nowhere near the effort spent to mine.



I get 10~12 PTS a day mining with 20 physical cores and 20 VPS cores. Before btc38.com went into maintenance mode, PTS was going for about $5.8 each. I hear on coingrounds, it goes for 0.008 BTC. Plus, don't know what the value will be once the genesis block start and all the PTS spawn 1:1 ratio of Bitshares, and what ever else spawns from PTS.

Are you saying after some changes price may even go up? I have not looked closely into bitshares and DAC.

I had mined one block solo and after that getting a very small return when I started pool mining. I am now wondering whether to sell now for almost 0.5 BTC or hold. Thats why I wanted to know what the current coin supply was.
Where did you get the impression that 1 PTS can be sold at 0.5 BTC? Really curious, because all sources I know have much lower price.

I block was 50 pts, 0.01 per pts is 0.5 btc
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