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newbie
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July 03, 2019, 12:07:54 PM
#29
thanks for the post, im new to this and i have made a research on this bitmo thing and i found this post. I have made an account just to thank for posting and avoiding me the head ache of falling into a scam.

Thanks
full member
Activity: 421
Merit: 110
June 05, 2019, 06:24:01 AM
#28
But I guess most people LOVE using their Power regardless of whether the person is correct or not.
You do realize that you have been tagged for different things, right?

1) RAISEX
2) Arbitao
3) VEIAG
4) Bitsmo
5) Gold Bits Coin

I am not sure how these negative feedback are meant to helpful?
They are helpful, people will see that you are promoting scams and they will stay away from you which will save them few bucks.

What happened to bismo? They fail KYC test and disappeared from BCT.




Hmmm, I agree with you. This isn't looking good them. This person is a scammer! They have promoted nothing but scams as you have pointed out!

I am Crypto-Info, bringing attention to the Raisex.io SCAM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/raisexio-is-a-scam-with-fake-volumes-and-offering-free-coin-listings-5056211

Bitsmo...you are on my radar...you will remember me with Raisex.io, as "a thorn in your side".
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1208
Heisenberg
March 11, 2019, 09:23:48 AM
#27
And the scammers are going a head with the exchange launch



https://medium.com/bitsmo/bitsmo-exchange-launching-tomorrow-8715a08e9f12

I pray an innocent person out there first does research and doesn't fall for this crap. The good thing is that there was no clap reaction on their medium post so that's a sign that nobody is interested in their scam
sr. member
Activity: 924
Merit: 260
February 13, 2019, 04:23:49 PM
#26
Oh my God! Fake photos and now a serial "entrepreneur"? Defend Bitsmo is indefensible cuz you can't explain away for using fake teams if your project is legit. Thanks to the guy who caught this.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 6108
Blackjack.fun
January 30, 2019, 06:33:25 PM
#25
I don't understand why person in charged is hidden, it is publicly available information.
Anyway, "person in charged" is not part of the team. Why?

Because people might get curious who this guy is, and the results are not too good for "the company".



Looks like he is establishing crypto companies at the rate an mg42 fires  Grin Grin
And he is pretty cheap and only requires scanned id:
http://www.eestifirma.ee/et/service/firma-asutamine/

Seriously, two years and people still believe a simple authorization to conduct business in Estonia means something?

Ps, I wonder how many of the crypto companies listed there are scams...99%? 99.9%?

legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
January 30, 2019, 05:54:45 PM
#24
Crypto Licenses (BITSMO)

I don't understand why person in charged is hidden, it is publicly available information.

Anyway, "person in charged" is not part of the team. Why?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
January 30, 2019, 11:38:41 AM
#23
Bitsmo and its team

Just recap for us please, seeing as that was the point of the thread, who exactly that "team" is?
Is it still these people?
Or not?



newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
January 30, 2019, 07:31:37 AM
#22
I posted content about them, and I removed it 24 hours later after I received your complaint, but yet I NEVER received your reply over it or the negative feedback removed. So, can you tell me what was my fault exactly?

So, ICOEthics, can you please tell me what was my FAULT here? You said that I didn't took action, but I did for Arbitao and that WITHIN 24 hours of the "POSTED" time and only FEW hours after receiving the complaint, yet nothing changed.

June 11, 2018, 10:07:20 AM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annpre-ico-arbitao-the-new-way-of-arbitrage-trading-4455437 0.75% daily
2018-06-16 ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2084637 first -ve
June 17, 2018, 09:31:38 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/arbitao-is-100-a-scam-4486941 scam accusation
June 17, 2018, 11:56:18 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40344351 give us 24 hours
2018-06-19 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2084637 second and third -ve

23 days after...

July 09, 2018, 10:30:04 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-delete-the-thread-4632175 http://archive.is/1uIbT shilling hard for arbitardao
2018-07-10 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1187801 -ve

Buddy, did you even checked your inbox?

July 10, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
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Hey mate, what's the problem? Why did you left a negative feedback??? What's the problem?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsmo-connecting-the-world-through-blockchain-4907727 bitsmo thread remains open. Team failed KYC. Questions in this thread - not answered.

2018-11-02 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1187801 -ve for shilling for bitsmo
January, 12, 2019, 06:38:36 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsmo-scam-ico-fake-team-5062208 "WTF??"



Ref Post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsmo-scam-ico-fake-team-5062208

Bitsmo has been operating in collaboration with Modulus Global, which itself is one of the largest and most popular cryptocurrency exchanges in the world.

Here we have attached our Licenses along with Registration Numbers for your cross-verification. Moreover, our platform is going to be fully regulated as it would feature KYC and AML both. Besides, our platform is bonded with 30+ major exchanges in the world, for users to make suitable and profitable trading decisions.

Whatever we do, we do it for the sake of our users and we mean it.

Bitsmo and its team strongly deny any accusations by you, and here’s the reason why. We hold both cryptocurrency and company licenses. Anyone, who’s interested, can also cross-verify our registration numbers either by calling us or by themselves.

We have always been an authentic cryptocurrency exchange platform, operating in collaboration with Modulus Global.

Estonia Business License
https://imgur.com/L6yrgm3

Crypto Licenses (BITSMO)
https://imgur.com/JPKwbkU
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
January 30, 2019, 02:12:11 AM
#21
Bitsmo has been operating in collaboration with Modulus Global, which itself is one of the largest and most popular cryptocurrency exchanges in the world.
 
Here we have attached our Licenses along with Registration Numbers for your cross-verification. Moreover, our platform is going to be fully regulated as it would feature KYC and AML both. Besides, our platform is bonded with 30+ major exchanges in the world, for users to make suitable and profitable trading decisions.

Whatever we do, we do it for the sake of our users and we mean it.

Bitsmo and its team strongly deny any accusations by you, and here’s the reason why. We hold both cryptocurrency and company licenses. Anyone, who’s interested, can also cross-verify our registration numbers either by calling us or by themselves.

We have always been an authentic cryptocurrency exchange platform, operating in collaboration with Modulus Global.

Estonia Business License
https://imgur.com/L6yrgm3

Crypto Licenses (BITSMO)
https://imgur.com/JPKwbkU
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
January 12, 2019, 06:35:41 PM
#20
I posted content about them, and I removed it 24 hours later after I received your complaint, but yet I NEVER received your reply over it or the negative feedback removed. So, can you tell me what was my fault exactly?

So, ICOEthics, can you please tell me what was my FAULT here? You said that I didn't took action, but I did for Arbitao and that WITHIN 24 hours of the "POSTED" time and only FEW hours after receiving the complaint, yet nothing changed.

June 11, 2018, 10:07:20 AM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annpre-ico-arbitao-the-new-way-of-arbitrage-trading-4455437 0.75% daily
2018-06-16 ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2084637 first -ve
June 17, 2018, 09:31:38 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/arbitao-is-100-a-scam-4486941 scam accusation
June 17, 2018, 11:56:18 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40344351 give us 24 hours
2018-06-19 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2084637 second and third -ve

23 days after...

July 09, 2018, 10:30:04 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-delete-the-thread-4632175 http://archive.is/1uIbT shilling hard for arbitardao
2018-07-10 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1187801 -ve

Buddy, did you even checked your inbox?

July 10, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote
Hey mate, what's the problem? Why did you left a negative feedback??? What's the problem?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsmo-connecting-the-world-through-blockchain-4907727 bitsmo thread remains open. Team failed KYC. Questions in this thread - not answered.

2018-11-02 --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1187801 -ve for shilling for bitsmo
January, 12, 2019, 06:38:36 PM --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsmo-scam-ico-fake-team-5062208 "WTF??"
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
January 12, 2019, 03:56:33 PM
#19
Quote from: FutureICOs
If I supported a project, it was based upon "POTENTIAL" how much they paid

FTFY.

The reason you're so outraged all of a sudden is the recent change in the trust system, which makes the feedback left previously by ICOEthics and me now visible, as we are now both in Default Trust.

The fact is that you have and will post and support any old shit for payment, including scams like VEIAG which is what I gave you negative trust for.
You didn't only post their ANN, you supported the thread for three months completely ignoring the huge red flags I raised in it, even questioning whether I had read their obviously fake WP
Quote from: FutureICO's
I think there are far too many people who don't visit the site and ask things that comes to their mind, it probably creates the problem.
When they went dark, you continued to post pages of their PR memes before locking it and changing the title to Outdated Thread presumably to fuck it up for anyone searching "VEIAG".
That's why I left you negative trust, and it's staying, despite your bullshit pm to me claiming they hadn't paid you. That what happens when you deal with scammers, they scam everybody and people like you help them.
I'm not talking for Marlboroza, he's quite capable himself, but I was going to leave you negative trust for your Arbitao post (which I commented on disparagingly) because you posted it on July 9th.
If you had the remotest interest in the honesty of the schemes you promote, then you'd have known thru a 5 minute search that there was a big SCAM ACCUSATION against Arbitao already on the forum, opened over three weeks before you made that shill post (as well as serious doubts being raised in their ANN thread).

Tl,dr:  Posting and shilling for shit schemes for money, no questions asked, is as bad as running them.
full member
Activity: 449
Merit: 100
January 12, 2019, 02:48:32 PM
#18
But I guess most people LOVE using their Power regardless of whether the person is correct or not.
You do realize that you have been tagged for different things, right?

1) RAISEX
2) Arbitao
3) VEIAG
4) Bitsmo
5) Gold Bits Coin

I am not sure how these negative feedback are meant to helpful?
They are helpful, people will see that you are promoting scams and they will stay away from you which will save them few bucks.

What happened to bismo? They fail KYC test and disappeared from BCT.


Buddy, did you even checked your inbox? You were the one who gave me negative feedback for Arbitao. I posted content about them, and I removed it 24 hours later after I received your complaint, but yet I NEVER received your reply over it or the negative feedback removed. So, can you tell me what was my fault exactly?

So, ICOEthics, can you please tell me what was my FAULT here? You said that I didn't took action, but I did for Arbitao and that WITHIN 24 hours of the POSTED time and only FEW hours after receiving the complaint, yet nothing changed.

legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
January 11, 2019, 08:41:36 PM
#17
But I guess most people LOVE using their Power regardless of whether the person is correct or not.
You do realize that you have been tagged for different things, right?

1) RAISEX
2) Arbitao
3) VEIAG
4) Bitsmo
5) Gold Bits Coin

I am not sure how these negative feedback are meant to helpful?
They are helpful, people will see that you are promoting scams and they will stay away from you which will save them few bucks.

What happened to bismo? They fail KYC test and disappeared from BCT.


sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 892
January 11, 2019, 10:30:39 AM
#16
It's simply unbelievable. I am not sure how these negative feedback are meant to helpful? IF I posted ANN thread on BEHALF of them, does that make me partner of them? I SEE NO RULES where Bitcointalk tells it's WRONG/INCORRECT/ILLEGAL, then HOW do I get punished for something that's considered as "ALLOWED".

Now BEFORE anyone tells me it's a scam, I am sorry but when I posted ANN thread, they were NOT scam. So, HOW I am supposed to know that they are to scam? But I guess most people LOVE using their Power regardless of whether the person is correct or not. Thank you

Really? why are you complaining about this 2 months later?

It was posted on the thread created by you (November 2) you should have made some comments about this long time ago.
" IF I posted ANN thread on BEHALF of them, does that make me partner of them? "  =  YES it does make you a scam promoter/supporter because you were warned about them, and you took no action. You could/should have blocked/suspended/ the thread. Evidence was provided - They had a fake team. But you preferred to remain silent and complain later once their ICO is over. Sorry, but we can't help you. Ask a DT to remove the red trust.




full member
Activity: 449
Merit: 100
January 11, 2019, 12:53:55 AM
#15
It's simply unbelievable. I am not sure how these negative feedback are meant to helpful? IF I posted ANN thread on BEHALF of them, does that make me partner of them? I SEE NO RULES where Bitcointalk tells it's WRONG/INCORRECT/ILLEGAL, then HOW do I get punished for something that's considered as ALLOWED.

Now BEFORE anyone tells me it's a scam, I am sorry but when I posted ANN thread, they were NOT scam. So, HOW I am supposed to know that they are to scam? But I guess most people LOVE using their Power regardless of whether the person is correct or not. Thank you
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 892
November 05, 2018, 09:49:47 AM
#14
As i said before..

bitsmo - i adviced this guys, they contact me virtual mode, i give tips, Project , check withepaper etc.
utpay - i advice this guys, they contact me , virtual mode, i give tips , Project, check whitepaper, etc.

Your name and image are listed on those scammers website, which makes you part of the scam.


enomcoin- I NEVER SPOKE WITH THIS GUYS... ..
i report this to local policy on my country and cyber criminal division . They stolen my info.

Again, where is the report?

Moderator if possible @Cyrus, request to remove my images and profile from this thread.

We are not stealing your image. Your name and image ARE LISTED on the scammer's website. We will do you a favor and remove the visual part, but we will keep the links.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
November 04, 2018, 05:18:04 PM
#13
As i said before..

bitsmo - i adviced this guys, they contact me virtual mode, i give tips, Project , check withepaper etc.
utpay - i advice this guys, they contact me , virtual mode, i give tips , Project, check whitepaper, etc.


enomcoin- I NEVER SPOKE WITH THIS GUYS... ..
i report this to local policy on my country and cyber criminal division . They stolen my info.


this is my final position.


What i made when you contact me. ( Im talking about Bitsmo and UTPAY ,  i not read last message about enomcoin, i just read about enomcoin 3 days ago, and on the thread that you open i put my final position.)

 - Send messages to ICOBench about and re check this guys  bitsmo and utpay ( maybe because this is kyc failed)
 - Request to acusation teams photos, kycs, etcs about Project. (bitsmo and utpay, send messge private)
 - Remove/ Request suspicious Project from my profile , ICObench (request sent bitsmo and utpay) until they contact me.
 - Waiting responses. from bitsmo and utpay


i think all responses on this thread is enougth. Now people can read and take own conclusions.

So, i sent the questions to teams, and maybe they will contact you.
You are also sharing our private conversation. Im have nothing to hide, but this is not confortable.

Moderator if possible @Cyrus, request to remove my images and profile from this thread.
My image with big red fake created by other user, is not correct. im not like. if is not possible i can understand.

I'm done for now.


And the advice gave from me to guys.



enomcoin - They are a massive scan, Scrap my info profile and used, i report this to local policy on my country and cyber criminal division . They stolen my info. this guys never contact me.
 I never join icos as a team member directly, !!!!!  cto, developer or other, I never join on ico..



bitsmo - i advice to this guys - As i said before , as i said to you in linkedin. Just advisoring.
utpay - i advices to this guys - As i said before , as i said to you in linkedin. Just advisoring.




This morning you sent us the message below just because someone from Bitcointalk forum told you about our post where your name appears on a third scam.
You never replied to our message on October 12 when we alerted you about the second scam - enomcoin - neither you wrote the information above about enomcoin on the message below. You wrote: "As i spoked with you i give advices to all this guys that you mention, but no direct association on project."

https://icoethics.com/imgs/other/message2.JPG




I will request to you to remove this "suspicious" informations ABOUT ME. Im never ignore you, i always respond you and give all support on your questions, and you enter on this forum and 'share' my profile as supicious... This is not correct.

We are not stealing your information. It is published on public websites. Also we are not ignoring you, we were the ones who informed you about such scams.


Im not search image people on google to say if ico is a scam or not... This is not my job.
My job is help people and share my knowledge.

You are wrong. It is your job and obligation to know who you are dealing/working with, especially as an adviser.
If your job is to help people, find a way to help all the people that will loose their money on these scams because they believed in you as a real person (and you are) and as an adviser for these ICOs. It is really sad!
legendary
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November 03, 2018, 08:55:59 PM
#12
I'm criticizing this argument: "Premise: the advisor's photo is also listed on a stock photo website. Conclusion: the adviser is fake and therefore the team is fake."  Weak evidence leading to a bold conclusion. In other words, there is no conclusive proof that there are any fake team members and for this reason it is unfair to assert that we are a scam.

I couldn't find Louis Colton and Bill Hogland's names as ICO advisors anywhere on the web. Likely identities are fake, which means that you have submitted false information both on your website and ICOBench.



We are partnered with Modulus Global, who is handling development for the platform and enabling us to reach those transaction speeds.

Modulus Global has partnered with companies/banks like ING, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase etc. but I couldn't get any information about Bitsmo (if we don't count fake shill websites like newsbtc, crossroadstoday where scam projects usually dump awful articles for pennies). I would like to see any kind of documentation that proves your partnership with Modulus if it's not too much trouble for you.



The data on ethplorer is not accurate because we used internal wallets for the ICO.

If you don't mind please share these internal wallet addresses so that we can check for ourselves. All I see is 42 BTSM holders with approximately $240k raised in ETH, correct me if I'm wrong.



legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
November 03, 2018, 07:53:12 PM
#11
What about me sir, what about my question sir?

It is just strange, giving all these pictures and everything, Felipe is verified member of ICObench https://icobench.com/u/luizfelipetx, and yet he is advising project which fail ICObench's KYC test https://icobench.com/ico/bitsmo

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I'm linking a photo  (https://imgur.com/a/pFpQU9H) of part of the team which includes myself (Joe Coburn), Ezra Bergstein, and Ken Riley among others not listed on the Bitsmo homepage. Clearly, we are an actual team of actual people.
Maybe BitsmoExchange could tell us why CEO Patrick Kimbley and COO Ken Riley fail test?



Maybe their advisor Felipe could shed some light? I would ask other advisors the same questions but I don't really trust team from pexels.
Can you address this?

Can you name these 30+ popular exchanges you are connected with?
Some of the top exchanges included in our Community Network are Gemini, Poloniex, Binance, GDAX, Kraken, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, KuCoin, and OKEX.
Can you list other 21 exchanges you are connected with? How are you exactly connected with them?
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 03, 2018, 07:38:42 PM
#10
Well, since when having fake team members is considered a weak evidence? Almost every project that has used other people identities is or turned out to be a scam. Why would it be any different with you?
I'm criticizing this argument: "Premise: the advisor's photo is also listed on a stock photo website. Conclusion: the adviser is fake and therefore the team is fake."  Weak evidence leading to a bold conclusion. In other words, there is no conclusive proof that there are any fake team members and for this reason it is unfair to assert that we are a scam.  


Can you name these 30+ popular exchanges you are connected with?
Some of the top exchanges included in our Community Network are Gemini, Poloniex, Binance, GDAX, Kraken, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, KuCoin, and OKEX.


Being able to offer transactions 10 times faster than other exchanges means you have hard working devs. It's just that your github is basically empty:
https://github.com/Bitsmo/Bitsmo
We are partnered with Modulus Global, who is handling development for the platform and enabling us to reach those transaction speeds.


On your website, you claim that you have raised more than $2 million dollars, any proof of that?
https://ethplorer.io/address/0xbbd575b0652a9a097b4921ab279436be1b52adfb
The data on ethplorer is not accurate because we used internal wallets for the ICO.
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