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Quote from: flipstyle on January 13, 2015, 07:24:07 AM

Quote from: picolo on January 13, 2015, 06:02:10 AM

Bitstamp should offer 2000 BTC for whoever help find at least 10 000 BTC of the 19 000 BTC lost.

Yeah, but why offer a bounty if they themselves were the ones who stole the coins....

I don't think they were but who knows who stole the coin? Probably less than 10 people.

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Quote from: picolo on January 13, 2015, 06:02:10 AM

Bitstamp should offer 2000 BTC for whoever help find at least 10 000 BTC of the 19 000 BTC lost.

Yeah, but why offer a bounty if they themselves were the ones who stole the coins....

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 13, 2015, 06:12:08 AM

Agree to what others say, wish the hacker(s) could get caught. They stolen hard-earned cold (cold? umm..) Bitcoin. We might be able to trace something out from the wallet.

I don't think we will be able to trace anything because they will mix the coins carefully and in "small" sums of hundreds of BTC.

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Agree to what others say, wish the hacker(s) could get caught. They stolen hard-earned cold (cold? umm..) Bitcoin. We might be able to trace something out from the wallet.

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Quote from: cyberpinoy on January 13, 2015, 12:25:13 AM

Thats great we can watch them, but what more can be done. There has to eb a way to track them, they will have to make a mistake somewhere. I wish all the hackers could get caught and face the responsibility of theft. then they should put the coins they confiscated into a faucet that pays 1 BTC per hour to whoever fills it out. Why not give it back to the owners it was stolen from, because its time everyone who owns a business in bitcoin take it upon themselves to strengthen security, I am tired of seeing so many places being hacked, enough is enough, do your job and secure your members investments at any costs whatever it takes. The only way we will keep hackers from ruining the reputation of Bitcoins is to stop them in thier tracks if they cant hack they wont succeed. Find ways arounf thier bullshit. Its the same story all the time, DDOS this, HACK accounts that. So stop it then. Learn form mistakes of your past and the mistakes of others and fix the problem. Sorry to be blunt, but thats life.

I don't think they will make a big mistake. It is possible to catch them if some of them talk to relatives that go public about who they are or maybe by random luck if they get raid by the police and proofs are found on their computers.
Bitstamp should offer 2000 BTC for whoever help find at least 10 000 BTC of the 19 000 BTC lost.

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Thats great we can watch them, but what more can be done. There has to eb a way to track them, they will have to make a mistake somewhere. I wish all the hackers could get caught and face the responsibility of theft. then they should put the coins they confiscated into a faucet that pays 1 BTC per hour to whoever fills it out. Why not give it back to the owners it was stolen from, because its time everyone who owns a business in bitcoin take it upon themselves to strengthen security, I am tired of seeing so many places being hacked, enough is enough, do your job and secure your members investments at any costs whatever it takes. The only way we will keep hackers from ruining the reputation of Bitcoins is to stop them in thier tracks if they cant hack they wont succeed. Find ways arounf thier bullshit. Its the same story all the time, DDOS this, HACK accounts that. So stop it then. Learn form mistakes of your past and the mistakes of others and fix the problem. Sorry to be blunt, but thats life.

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Quote from: techgeeks on January 12, 2015, 10:44:27 PM

Not true, people rent my gear on MRR. That in essence is cloud mining. It is up to the renter to decide whether they will make money or not.

what makes you more money, renting the gear, or using it to mine?

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Not true, people rent my gear on MRR. That in essence is cloud mining. It is up to the renter to decide whether they will make money or not.

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Quote from: techgeeks on January 12, 2015, 10:29:04 PM

Sad, this is where the price drop is going, hopefully the community can ingest the coins, and prevent issues like CEX.io having to close the cloud mining ops down.

A true set back on Bitcoin even as a competitor.

virtually all cloud miniing is a scam. it has to be by its nature.

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Sad, this is where the price drop is going, hopefully the community can ingest the coins, and prevent issues like CEX.io having to close the cloud mining ops down.

A true set back on Bitcoin even as a competitor.

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Quote from: moriartybitcoin on January 12, 2015, 05:44:13 PM

well, whomever hacked them should have no trouble laundering them. Most bitcoin laundry services (mine included) don't care where the coins came from

I somehow doubt that anyone is going to trust you to launder their bitcoin after all the money you stole. Anyone stupid enough to use your service is asking to get scammed.

You are right though that mixing services do not check where the bitcoin came from nor does it matter because bitcoin is fungible

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Quote from: moriartybitcoin on January 12, 2015, 05:44:13 PM

well, whomever hacked them should have no trouble laundering them. Most bitcoin laundry services (mine included) don't care where the coins came from

I feel like this statement makes this entire thread a moot point.

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Quote from: picolo on January 12, 2015, 05:34:38 PM

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Quote from: Eastwind on January 11, 2015, 04:28:46 AM

Can a coinmixer confiscate those coins and return to Bitstamp? The only problem is that nobody will use that mixer any more.

Technically they could. But as you mentioned that would be the end of their business.

I reckon BitStamp would need to offer something around $0.5-$1m reward to convince mixer to seize such coins. Anyway, it's pointless since hacker will be mixing it slowly, not all at once.

The hacker will mix them slowly and bitmixer would not give away the bitcoins because it would be against the ethic of their business.

How do you think he will mix and cash out? Would he cash out to his real name. Maybe through bitstamp!

Confused here. Where did I say anything about hacker cashing-out?
He will be cashing out but how and when is a completely different story/speculation.

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Quote from: howzar on January 11, 2015, 05:47:06 AM

Quote from: mlferro on January 07, 2015, 04:00:17 PM

would not have a way to track the IPs from which transactions are being made?

Wouldn't help. The hacker could just hide behind TOR or VPNs.

wouldnt help anyway because its a decentralized network.
For example, if you look on blockchain.info as to what IP
relayed them the transaction, that is only what blockchain
is seeing. Other nodes might have had a different IP relay
it, and neither would be necessarily seeing the first relay.

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well, whomever hacked them should have no trouble laundering them. Most bitcoin laundry services (mine included) don't care where the coins came from

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 12, 2015, 04:18:19 PM

Quote from: Eastwind on January 11, 2015, 04:28:46 AM

Can a coinmixer confiscate those coins and return to Bitstamp? The only problem is that nobody will use that mixer any more.

Technically they could. But as you mentioned that would be the end of their business.

I reckon BitStamp would need to offer something around $0.5-$1m reward to convince mixer to seize such coins. Anyway, it's pointless since hacker will be mixing it slowly, not all at once.

The hacker will mix them slowly and bitmixer would not give away the bitcoins because it would be against the ethic of their business.

How do you think he will mix and cash out? Would he cash out to his real name. Maybe through bitstamp!

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Quote from: Eastwind on January 11, 2015, 04:28:46 AM

Can a coinmixer confiscate those coins and return to Bitstamp? The only problem is that nobody will use that mixer any more.

Technically they could. But as you mentioned that would be the end of their business.

I reckon BitStamp would need to offer something around $0.5-$1m reward to convince mixer to seize such coins. Anyway, it's pointless since hacker will be mixing it slowly, not all at once.

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Quote from: Eastwind on January 11, 2015, 04:28:46 AM

Can a coinmixer confiscate those coins and return to Bitstamp? The only problem is that nobody will use that mixer any more.

By not doing that, a coinmixer would greatly increase his credibility. By doing that, he would run out of business. Undecided

Having said that, the hacker has to be absolutely sure that the mixer is not keeping logs. He could be very easily exposed to blackmail.

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Some of the recent coins link to 1KYXrw4Ftkmomfs4iyVXUSqQeRX75Unoi8 which in turns links to another thread where it was mentioned https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8846318

The trail is as follows, notice the recent 29 bitcoin tx, if you follow it back like only two-three times you will see the coins some from 1KYXrw4Ftkmomfs4iyVXUSqQeRX75Unoi8

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it's funny. funds are still deposited there: https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

the "hacker" made another 50K.

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