Topic: Bitstamp investment opportunity at bnktothefuture? Unimpressive... (Read 3205 times)

with a ROI in some years I think you have already an answer...

Would be curious to know if any investors of any projects presented at bnktothefuture has made any money so far.

Bitstamp is now offering 2% share for some 1.1M EUR https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/bitstamp
If you make a quick calculation 50*1191870[USD] and divide by daily trading volume of 5M*365 days*0.1% fee, (1191870*50)/(5000000*365/1000)=32.65, so it would take 32 years (or 16 assuming 0.2% avg fee) to pay back. Of course it's likely the volume will go up, however BTC price will do the same   Therefor I think it's way better to simply buy BTC.

This is definitely the risk and even i have the money to invest on i would rather choose to buy bitcoin itself and will hold for 10-30 years based on the calculations above and for sure i will made good profits with that since bitcoins price is increasing gradually and would even give you a decent percentage on your investment. Investing money on bitstamp is risky and i cant wait for too long for the company to repay me.

This investment seems to be really unimpressive as the few calculations done by previous posters actually make it crystal clear that for next 15 years there would be any returns and possibly between that bitstamp may become insolvent or need to be shut down. So you stand to lose out your investment completely.

when you look NYSE or Dow Jones. All companies are priced as x30 years of profit or 7-10x of annual income.

so it seen logical general investment perspective. but yes a bit low comparing to crypto-asset invesments roi.

You're forgetting the reason people use BTC in the first place - anonymity. These places are definitely less regulated than the big boys  which makes for much more privacy

You're forgetting the reason people use BTC in the first place - anonymity. These places are definitely less regulated than the big boys  which makes for much more privacy

when you look NYSE or Dow Jones. All companies are priced as x30 years of profit or 7-10x of annual income.

so it seen logical general investment perspective. but yes a bit low comparing to crypto-asset invesments roi.

If you are really long on BTC you will definitely not put your dollars (or satoshi) this way, you would be best to just hold your BTC. More established firms would decide to get in on the market and Bitfinex etc wouldn't stand a chance due to regulation burden.

Unless you're really long on BTC - you see it becoming a larger part of the world economy. In that case, you're probably already fairly well invested in BTC and might see this as a good opportunity to get in on early

How is it high reward? Limited upside.

High risk, high reward man - just like investing in BTC casinos or gambling in them

a $100 million valuation for a company that's been hacked, is unregulated and its ownership and operation is largely a mystery? you'd get your ass laughed out of any serious investor's office with a proposal like that. and they'd probably boot you in the ass on the way out for wasting their time.

it just goes to show that so many bitcoin businesses still live in a weird little bubble of their own that doesn't have much relation to the real world out there.

let's look at that figure again - $100,000,000.

someone would pay that for an operation run by bunch of guys who lounge around in their underwear in various basements around the world? sure, it makes money. you need a little more than that to gain proper investment. jermaine the crack dealer makes money. that doesn't mean he can list on the stock market.

In 2015, Bitfinex had $9.349 MM in revenue, 2.322 MM in expenses, and net income of $7.027 MM; in 2016 through July, they had $8.017 MM in revenue, $2.000 MM in expenses and a net income of $6.017 MM, which was on track to be roughly $10 MM in income for the year. (It looks like I may have previously gotten the last year and YTD through July figures mixed up).

On a YoY basis, both revenue, and net income have grown by double digits from last year.

If a potential investor wanted to buy equity in Bitfinex, they could purchase BFX tokens at a discount, and convert those BFX tokens into Bitfinex (or the entity that is actually selling shares on Bnktothefuture), giving an effective valuation of closer to $100 MM. If an investor wanted to buy a large amount of shares, does not already own BFX tokens, then their buying of BFX tokens would likely push up their effective valuation because the price of the BFX tokens would likely increase.

Bitfinex could potentially increase their revenue/income by introducing new products, for example, I have heard them talking about offering deliverable options, and new trading pairs that generates high trading volumes.

In regards to your valuation estimate, an appropriate valuation is a conclusion that needs to be made by an investor considering to invest.