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Quote from: prezbo on October 12, 2013, 12:26:55 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on October 12, 2013, 10:49:38 AM

Huh? The bank would not send the documentation (to an unknown individual in Eastern Europe in this case.)

Just for the record, slovenia is central europe (and is in fact a lot more west than other central europe countries), not eastern europe, since you've made that mistake at least twice now already.

Apologies.

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Quote from: tvbcof on October 12, 2013, 10:49:38 AM

Huh? The bank would not send the documentation (to an unknown individual in Eastern Europe in this case.)

Just for the record, slovenia is central europe (and is in fact a lot more west than other central europe countries), not eastern europe, since you've made that mistake at least twice now already.

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Quote from: Trading on October 12, 2013, 11:43:13 AM

They should allow people to close their accounts and should send their bitcoins to an external address indicated by the customer. Keeping their customers bitcoins is stealling, pure and simple.

Or, you could just get verified.
We're talking about a legal company trying to exchange your money without getting closed in the meantime, what were you really expecting?
Either you go full legal or full illegal, if you stay in-between you'll be crashed.

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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence

They should allow people to close their accounts and should send their bitcoins to an external address indicated by the customer. Keeping their customers bitcoins is stealling, pure and simple.

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Bitgoblin

LOL @ the amount of FUD in this thread.
A sour LOL, though.

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Quote from: PrintMule on October 12, 2013, 07:39:51 AM

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Quote from: eldentyrell on October 11, 2013, 02:57:45 AM

I've offered to let them wire the funds to my US-based bank, which has full AML documentation for me on file and who will confirm that I am the signatory for the account.

And what would be the difference between this and sending your data yourself?

Huh? The bank would not send the documentation (to an unknown individual in Eastern Europe in this case.) They would simply take on the role of verifier such that the exchange could be confident that they are sending funds to a positively identified individual.

This should be a perfectly satisfactory solution both for exchanges and for regulators if simply solving the KYC issue were desired. For fiat movement in the e->c direction at least. Regulators might be pushing on exchanges for harrassment reasons, or exchanges may simply not be terribly broken-hearted that they cannot send out funds and have to instead sit on them and/or obtain high quality docs which themselves could have significant value in certain kinds of exit events.

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Quote from: ronaldlee0917 on October 10, 2013, 01:19:28 AM

How are they goxing?
USD withdrawals processed and arrived within 3 business days, can't even get it processed by MtGox after waiting for 3 months.
Bitcoins withdrawals processed almost instantly, can't even get MtGox broadcast it on blockchain after waiting for 5 hours.

What he said.

I got my recent withdrawal in 1-2 days. Giving my info was a pain in the ass, they bounced back my docs 2 times, but those were my mistakes.
Show me an anonymous way to convert to fiat without bank transfer commissions, as I do have the need to pay my bills time to time.

Btc-e does SEPA but for orders of 500eur minimal.

Localbitcoins suck so much donkeyballs that I won't even start.

I'm completely ok with Bitstamp from the very start and even after these changes.

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Quote from: eldentyrell on October 11, 2013, 02:57:45 AM

I've offered to let them wire the funds to my US-based bank, which has full AML documentation for me on file and who will confirm that I am the signatory for the account.

And what would be the difference between this and sending your data yourself?

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Quote from: eldentyrell on October 11, 2013, 02:57:45 AM

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Now they've basically stolen my money and won't give it back unless I send enough high-resolution documentation to steal my identity to some dude in Slovenia.

I've offered to let them wire the funds to my US-based bank, which has full AML documentation for me on file and who will confirm that I am the signatory for the account.

I want to stop using bitstamp and get my coins back. They're refusing to close my account. Scam scam scam.

I wonder what an identity packet sells for in Eastern Europe these days. Especially one from someone who has a decent job and some money?

Thank god I didn't make the mistake of considering Bitstamp. I did eventually capitulate and send some docs to Mt. Gox after years of holding out. Not that it did me much good...no wire yet after several months of waiting. My gut sense is that Mark would not stoop so low as to sell my identity information, and I hope he's got data security figured out a little bit better with several years of experience under his belt. But even if both of these are true, he certainly employs people and it's always possible that one of them would decide to take personal compensation into their own hands.

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Quote from: 420 on October 09, 2013, 10:21:28 AM

in our news section, on our Facebook page, on our g+ account, on reddit, on bitcointalk.org and on our twitter account

Great, I better watch Chase bank's twitter because apparently banks might announce some restrictions I'd need to know about on social networks and not to me directly that would freeze my account!

bitstamp ridiculous.

Totally agreed, this is a complete scam. They have stolen our coins.

They know how to email all their customers. They've emailed me several times, at least once a month for the last year. But when announcing a policy change that has a chance of trapping peoples' coins on the equity side of their balance sheet, they want to "be social" and "share" instead of using the most direct and reliable communication mechanism.

Now they've basically stolen my money and won't give it back unless I send enough high-resolution documentation to steal my identity to some dude in Slovenia.

I've offered to let them wire the funds to my US-based bank, which has full AML documentation for me on file and who will confirm that I am the signatory for the account.

I want to stop using bitstamp and get my coins back. They're refusing to close my account. Scam scam scam.

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I used bitstamp today without issue.

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How are they goxing?
USD withdrawals processed and arrived within 3 business days, can't even get it processed by MtGox after waiting for 3 months.
Bitcoins withdrawals processed almost instantly, can't even get MtGox broadcast it on blockchain after waiting for 5 hours.

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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence

I also ceased trading at Gox and Bitstamp.

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Quote from: bitdraw on October 09, 2013, 11:59:35 AM

email notification about the change would have been nice ... not like it's some small change to the service.

I just don't want to send my scanned passport, what to do now? :/

how much do you got with them?

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email notification about the change would have been nice ... not like it's some small change to the service.

I just don't want to send my scanned passport, what to do now? :/

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Quote from: Trading on October 09, 2013, 11:35:34 AM

Basically, they are blackmailing costumers: give me copies of your personal documents or say goodbye to your money. Paypal and Gox do the same thing. The only correct way to implement a new KYC policy is to freeze the selling of bitcoins, but still allow bitcoin withdraws and the buying of bitcoins with fiat in order to withdraw.

yup; which is why i'm boycotting their service now

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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence

Basically, they are blackmailing customers: give me copies of your personal documents or say goodbye to your money. Paypal and Gox do the same thing. The only correct way to implement a new KYC policy is to freeze the selling of bitcoins, but still allow bitcoin withdraws and the buying of bitcoins with fiat in order to withdraw.

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it's not like I have a life to live besides reading and scouring bitcointalk

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Quote from: 420 on October 09, 2013, 10:21:28 AM

Dear Four,

The grace period for deposits/withdrawals was announced on 4th of September in our news section, on our Facebook page, on our g+ account, on reddit, on bitcointalk.org and on our twitter account and this period has now with the 30th of September ended.

In order to provide a high quality and reliable service we would kindly ask you to please verify your account before requesting deposits/withdrawals.

If you should need our assistance doing so please feel free to ask.

Best regards,
Benedikt Potisek

Great, I better watch Chase bank's twitter because apparently banks might announce some restrictions I'd need to know about on social networks and not to me directly that would freeze my account!

bitstamp ridiculous.

It's not like it was all over bitcointalk ever since september 4th or anything...

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Dear Four,

The grace period for deposits/withdrawals was announced on 4th of September in our news section, on our Facebook page, on our g+ account, on reddit, on bitcointalk.org and on our twitter account and this period has now with the 30th of September ended.

In order to provide a high quality and reliable service we would kindly ask you to please verify your account before requesting deposits/withdrawals.

If you should need our assistance doing so please feel free to ask.

Best regards,
Benedikt Potisek

Great, I better watch Chase bank's twitter because apparently banks might announce some restrictions I'd need to know about on social networks and not to me directly that would freeze my account!

bitstamp ridiculous.

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I believe once you are verified they release money rather fast.

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