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Topic: Bitstamp is the Next Gox and why Bitcoin will be at $300 soon (Read 9530 times)

sr. member
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You haven't moved > $10,000 lately, have you?
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Be Here Now
@p0peji: No idea what they try! I was also baffled, because at the moment I read those questions it was clear to me, that it was the last time I used Bitstamp.

I will under no circumstances tell anyone what I do for a living and present anyone the invoices of stuff I buy for myself. Why should I?
Also, I will not trace any milliBTC back to it's origin. It's nobody's business what I get my coins for. I have nothing to hide, as I am increasing my wallet by Daytrading and mining LTC which I exchange into BTC, but when I read those questions I feel like they think I am a criminal.

I am not defending nor blasting them.  I think they just want to comply so it SHTF they at least cover their backs.  


No, it's bullshit. If they want to cater to governments and/or central authorities they need to get out of bitcoin. People move to it FOR PRIVACY. Government installs these regulations so it can track people, invade privacy, and try to collect fees/taxes whatever else....which defeats the privacy portion of bitcoin's principle. It's not about kiddie porn, drugs, terrorism, fake IDS, or money laundering.

It's about they see the writing on the wall when bitcoin is mass adopted and they can't control it, regulate it, tax it, and they can't enforce it.

Further, if you go to your bank to withdraw money, they do not ask you where you got it and what you plan to do with it. If you deposit money, they don't ask you that. Nobody has any questionaire to be filled out.

If you go to a currency exchange and exchange USD for Euro or vice versa or anything else, do they also hand you forms to fill out itemizing where you got your funds, what you spent it on, and what you're going to do with it>


So look closer at the real reason they're pushing for this information. Regulation, confiscation, taxation and that's bullshit.

If they want to do all that, then for god sakes as a community, at least make them work for it and expend their own money, time and effort to do it the hard way.

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If I was an exchange ... I would be very careful within volatile stuff ... for me sounds like the exchange market is more fragmented now than that it was on gox golden times. Exchanges can also cannibalize each other just like any other network (pools for instance ) ...

DOnt ever look back on GOX as the golden days as either

1) You have altzheimers
2) You where not there

GOX was the devil & thank fuck they are gone ..I whole heartly believe that we would not have been abel to move forward without them out of the picture

GOX is gone, but the bitcoins that were steal from there keep the market price very low. I have seen few hours ago on blockchain 2016 BTC transaction. I wonder where that amount comes from?Smiley any ideas?
A sizable amount of drugs.
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If I was an exchange ... I would be very careful within volatile stuff ... for me sounds like the exchange market is more fragmented now than that it was on gox golden times. Exchanges can also cannibalize each other just like any other network (pools for instance ) ...

DOnt ever look back on GOX as the golden days as either

1) You have altzheimers
2) You where not there

GOX was the devil & thank fuck they are gone ..I whole heartly believe that we would not have been abel to move forward without them out of the picture

GOX is gone, but the bitcoins that were steal from there keep the market price very low. I have seen few hours ago on blockchain 2016 BTC transaction. I wonder where that amount comes from?Smiley any ideas?
hero member
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If I was an exchange ... I would be very careful within volatile stuff ... for me sounds like the exchange market is more fragmented now than that it was on gox golden times. Exchanges can also cannibalize each other just like any other network (pools for instance ) ...

DOnt ever look back on GOX as the golden days as either

1) You have altzheimers
2) You where not there

GOX was the devil & thank fuck they are gone ..I whole heartly believe that we would not have been abel to move forward without them out of the picture
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Stand on the shoulders of giants
If I was an exchange ... I would be very careful within volatile stuff ... for me sounds like the exchange market is more fragmented now than that it was on gox golden times. Exchanges can also cannibalize each other just like any other network (pools for instance ) ...
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Bitstamp is working like a charm for me, never had any problems with them. They are the fastest exchangers on market and very very trustable. I never tried any other exchangers, but i have in mind testing Vault of Satoshi services.
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legendary
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I was very happy to get my (limited) BTC out of Bitstamp before they added all the verification steps.  While I disagree with the price forecast the point about bitstamp is very interesting.  I didn't think AML regulations effected just crypto transactions.  Yet, two months in, bitstamp is still here.
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Yes, the end of leverage is one reason. Okcoin announced that leverage would cease on the 10th May (http://www.coindesk.com/pboc-pressure-influences-latest-okcoin-service-upgrade/). Since the prohibition of leverage was agreed between the 5  major chinese exchanges, probably, Huobi picked the same date.
I wonder if they also started already collecting the flat rate fee.
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I stopped trading at Bitstamp several months ago. Anyone wanting to send them their diaries, personal letters, pictures of the familly and of the dog, be my guest. But unless they get hacked, I don't think that they will be another Gox.
Actually, I was expecting Huobi to be our next Gox, not Bitstamp. But it seems Huobi is dying in our hands peacefully: its volume is dropping massively. Of course, as chinese sellers end up without buyers with new fiat, the price can start moving down fast, but, right now, All Quiet on the eastern Front.


I think it's more aligned with a prime example of how margin trading and 0% fees grossly inflate the exchange's volume.
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I stopped trading at Bitstamp several months ago. Anyone wanting to send them their diaries, personal letters, pictures of the familly and of the dog, be my guest. But unless they get hacked, I don't think that they will be another Gox.
Actually, I was expecting Huobi to be our next Gox, not Bitstamp. But it seems Huobi is dying in our hands peacefully: its volume is dropping massively. Of course, as chinese sellers end up without buyers with new fiat, the price can start moving down fast, but, right now, All Quiet on the eastern Front.
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@p0peji: No idea what they try! I was also baffled, because at the moment I read those questions it was clear to me, that it was the last time I used Bitstamp.

I will under no circumstances tell anyone what I do for a living and present anyone the invoices of stuff I buy for myself. Why should I?
Also, I will not trace any milliBTC back to it's origin. It's nobody's business what I get my coins for. I have nothing to hide, as I am increasing my wallet by Daytrading and mining LTC which I exchange into BTC, but when I read those questions I feel like they think I am a criminal.

1)I wont tell you anything at all ever
2) I have nothing to hide

You know that these 2 statements totally contradict each other ...lolz

3) Why should i

Its called anti money laundering laws and they are enforced to varying levels by all companys

I dont think stamp wants to be bitinstant charlie Shrem money launderer & goto jail for 25 years or get there business closed down by homeland security by proxy via pressuer on there banking partners

Its due dilligence and it really shows that they are not going to be running away with your funds
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@p0peji: No idea what they try! I was also baffled, because at the moment I read those questions it was clear to me, that it was the last time I used Bitstamp.

I will under no circumstances tell anyone what I do for a living and present anyone the invoices of stuff I buy for myself. Why should I?
Also, I will not trace any milliBTC back to it's origin. It's nobody's business what I get my coins for. I have nothing to hide, as I am increasing my wallet by Daytrading and mining LTC which I exchange into BTC, but when I read those questions I feel like they think I am a criminal.

I am not defending nor blasting them.  I think they just want to comply so it SHTF they at least cover their backs. 
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I agree with one point in the OP's posting.
I also thought about a delay tactic, when I heard about all the stupid KYC/AML Questions.

That is why I moved to Kraken.com, where I trade over 250.000 US$ per month at the moment.



On Kraken.com the procedure was:
- Sign up and verify for Tier4
- Send in my passport, my company documents (trade register excerpt), and the annual tax return (it was, I guess).
that was just about it.

On Bitstamp:
- Sign up and everything works fine on the first glance
- As soon as you want to withdraw, your funds get frozen and you are presented with a huge list of personal questions,
  where you have to explain the sources of your wealth, you have to proove the origin of your coins, you have to hand in invoices of purchased bitcoin mining environment, and so on  Roll Eyes If you have bought your miner on eBay (without an invoice) -> bad for you.




So they might be trying to prevent money leaving the bitcoin economy?
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