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legendary
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January 09, 2015, 06:36:49 PM
#48
The next question is whether Bitstamp is now insolvent.  They lost $5 million.  Did they get new funding to replace that, did they have enough capital of their own, or are they dipping into customer funds?  Their statements have carefully avoided mentioning this issue.

If a real stockbroker lost funds like that, and became insolvent (debts > assets), they would have to stop operations immediately.  In some jurisdictions it is a felony for a broker to continue to accept funds once insolvent.  They don't get to "fix it later". That's because, historically, the temptation to fix it by speculating with customer funds has been a big problem.

With withdrawals working again, it's probably a good idea to get your assets out of Bitstamp. Don't use them as a wallet. Trade there if you like, but empty out your account when not actively trading.

Bitstamp now needs a full audit by an outside auditing firm.

Agree, that's the missing part of the statement - how are they going to cover the lost funds? After all the shit from Mt Gox it would be nice if bitstamp were more transparent on this.

Although, if Pantera bailed them out, both sides may not be very keen on disclosing the details. And this part slightly suggest that this could be the case:

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On a personal note, I’d like to thank the incredible teams at Bitstamp and at our lead investor Pantera Capital who have worked around-the-clock from multiple time zones in the last few days. I’m incredibly proud of the herculean work of this extended team, and grateful to the phenomenal show of support from customers, friends, and partners in the bitcoin community.

Hopefully they won't qualify for audit exemption in their 2nd year of trading.
hero member
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January 09, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
#47
What happens to the stolen 19,000 BTCs? Bitstamp has a roadmap to pay it off to the customers.
I think Bitstamp is finished. I personally would never transfer anything in there.
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January 09, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
#46
The next question is whether Bitstamp is now insolvent.  They lost $5 million.  Did they get new funding to replace that, did they have enough capital of their own, or are they dipping into customer funds?  Their statements have carefully avoided mentioning this issue.

If a real stockbroker lost funds like that, and became insolvent (debts > assets), they would have to stop operations immediately.  In some jurisdictions it is a felony for a broker to continue to accept funds once insolvent.  They don't get to "fix it later". That's because, historically, the temptation to fix it by speculating with customer funds has been a big problem.

With withdrawals working again, it's probably a good idea to get your assets out of Bitstamp. Don't use them as a wallet. Trade there if you like, but empty out your account when not actively trading.

Bitstamp now needs a full audit by an outside auditing firm.
That might be a possibility . To become solvent they would need to purchase 18K bitcoins, and I am not sure if they already did that or plan to do that .
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January 09, 2015, 06:20:01 PM
#45
Happy to see they are back and being honest about the situation
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
#44
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With withdrawals working again, it's probably a good idea to get your assets out of Bitstamp. Don't use them as a wallet. Trade there if you like, but empty out your account when not actively trading.  

That should be standard practice for any exchange, never use exchanges and online wallets or any public service for longterm storage, you do not have control over your coins there!
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:57:43 PM
#43
The next question is whether Bitstamp is now insolvent.  They lost $5 million.  Did they get new funding to replace that, did they have enough capital of their own, or are they dipping into customer funds?  Their statements have carefully avoided mentioning this issue.

If a real stockbroker lost funds like that, and became insolvent (debts > assets), they would have to stop operations immediately.  In some jurisdictions it is a felony for a broker to continue to accept funds once insolvent.  They don't get to "fix it later". That's because, historically, the temptation to fix it by speculating with customer funds has been a big problem.

With withdrawals working again, it's probably a good idea to get your assets out of Bitstamp. Don't use them as a wallet. Trade there if you like, but empty out your account when not actively trading.

Bitstamp now needs a full audit by an outside auditing firm.
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:45:26 PM
#42
I'd be very surprised if they even acknowledged this positive thing at all, they like to focus on a narrative and once they've decided with it they'll go with it even when piles of evidence stack up against them.
hero member
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January 09, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
#41
Yes, they're back up, and after 20 minutes there's been enough volume to get them back in sync with the other markets, around $288. Bitcoinwisdom is tracking Bitstamp, but Bitcoin Charts (which is owned by Karpeles) is not.

That didn't take long. All is back as usual after 20 minutes.

The media loves the crash stories... now let the media write about this.
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:27:13 PM
#40
Yes, they're back up, and after 20 minutes there's been enough volume to get them back in sync with the other markets, around $288. Bitcoinwisdom is tracking Bitstamp, but Bitcoin Charts (which is owned by Karpeles) is not.
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
#39
No trading fees, so a bunch of trading bots will smooth out the volatility from all the micro transactions.

1150 BTC being dumped at $295.99
sr. member
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January 09, 2015, 05:12:01 PM
#38
Withdrawal works.
hero member
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January 09, 2015, 05:10:55 PM
#37
Finally Bitstamp is back, was about time.

People are very excited, price may see a short bump.

I am amazed the price is higher than BTC-e. I thought there would be tons of sells. Not so. At least not in the first 5 minutes. It's up to $298


$10 price spread! Quick! Buy on BTC-e and sell on bitstamp. Arbitrage!
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:07:59 PM
#36
Live again! About 6 minutes late  Wink
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:07:48 PM
#35
Finally Bitstamp is back, was about time.

People are very excited, price may see a short bump.
hero member
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January 09, 2015, 05:06:14 PM
#34
holy shit it's live! LOOK AT IT GO


$294 price at opening
hero member
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January 09, 2015, 05:04:38 PM
#33
Ok so it's 21:00 UTC, trading has resumed but I don't see anything happening yet.

Yeah it's still not active. Lies! Tongue
hero member
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January 09, 2015, 05:04:18 PM
#32
it is back now, but can someone withdraw its coins?
It's not live until 4pm EST. 50 minutes from now
look at this

Trading on @Bitstamp will resume at 2100 UTC today. We can confirm withdrawals have been working. #Bitcoin

https://twitter.com/WorldCryptoNet/status/553645984883167232
Ok you're right. I was mistaken. I don't know if anyone here has successfully withdrawn yet
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 05:02:10 PM
#31
Ok so it's 21:00 UTC, trading has resumed but I don't see anything happening yet.


edit: nevermind, trading just went live! Bounced to $291
member
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January 09, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
#30
time for the price to go up

buy buy as fast as you can
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
January 09, 2015, 04:35:20 PM
#29
This is very good news.  Hopefully having a main exchange will restore some confidence in bitcoin.  Thanks LiteCoinGuy for the summary.

Price already ticking up!  Good Luck everyone!

no problem. i would recommend that anybody should change the password? why? just do it.

You're right, like with Bitcointalk hacks, if you're using an old password and it's floating around the internet someone could get at your stuff, always use easy to remember and interchangable passwords and do not ever use one password for your financial accounts, especially if that password is also the same as the one in your day to day and social accounts.


otherwise we will have the next chaos in 2 months...hopefully not  Lips sealed
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