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retrocoingames

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Following the the recent acquisition of www.bitwheel.io we have decided to run a similar Bitcoin Giveaway that we origionally launched with www.coin-sweeper.com

The Giveaway will be a total of 0.1BTC for anyone who wants to play Bit-wheel.io. It will be available in 50 individual payments of 0.002 BTC and is limited to 1 giveaway per Bitcointalk Account/IP address with a minimum of activity of 20.

We will be creating a new thread for the giveaway which will start November the 13th at 08:00 AM Bitcoin Talk Forum Time

I will announce it in this thread first so make sure you are watching this space!

In the meantime feel free to check out our 1,000 Satoshi Faucet at www.bitwheel.io Cool

retrocoingames

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To clarify when scammers steal from us they don't get a bit back. When people haven't successfully stolen from us we give them the benefit of the doubt. One of our largest attackers has been the same DD4BC guy who now has a 100BTC bounty on his head.

His bounty can be found here with Roger Ver backing it - http://www.bitcoinbountyhunter.com/bitalo.html

While the industry is still maturing there is a lot of scope for improving the response by online gambling sites to scammers.

CryForMeSky

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Quote from: retrocoingames on November 10, 2014, 01:57:26 AM

Hopefully our actions in response to issues like this will help us build a reputation that allows honest players to trust us, and will make less than honest players think twice about trying to steal from us!

You are accomplishing the exact opposite though. By refunding scammers, scammers will now target you because it's a no-loss situation for them. If they go undetected, they get your money. If they get found out, they get refunded their deposit. What would there be to think twice about?

retrocoingames

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Thanks for taking the time to read into it more Coef. With perfect information we could make perfect decisions. But without perfect information our decisions can never be 100% perfect - we just do our best with what we have. When our system pays out withdraws to those taking advantage of exploits the money is gone and you'll likely never hear from us or the person who took it from us.

When our fraud systems catch behavior that looks a bit 'dodgy' we do our best to investigate it fairly. The other side will normally make as much noise as they can to try and pressure us into taking their side. In situations like this we will normally refund the deposits, provided they haven't scammed money above and beyond that value from us already! I don't think it's any fairer for us to confiscate a players deposit when we suspect scamming than it is for them to steal from our bankroll!

Hopefully our actions in response to issues like this will help us build a reputation that allows honest players to trust us, and will make less than honest players think twice about trying to steal from us!

Quote from: Coef on November 10, 2014, 01:20:35 AM

Quote from: retrocoingames on November 10, 2014, 12:15:18 AM

We don't discuss the specifics behind exploits publicly. We don't want to give any more advantage to the exploiters/hackers/scammers than they already have. Not a week goes by where we don't receive some sort of threat or exploit attempt on our websites. If you doubt Aviba's history for this sort of thing then please take a read of this latest posts and let us know what you make of it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aviba-359930

I guess you are right here. It seems he has won big and has been accused of cheating on both Peerbet and Multidice before.
It is nice to see you refunding his deposit when he is trying to cheat.

Coef

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Quote from: retrocoingames on November 10, 2014, 12:15:18 AM

We don't discuss the specifics behind exploits publicly. We don't want to give any more advantage to the exploiters/hackers/scammers than they already have. Not a week goes by where we don't receive some sort of threat or exploit attempt on our websites. If you doubt Aviba's history for this sort of thing then please take a read of this latest posts and let us know what you make of it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aviba-359930

I guess you are right here. It seems he has won big and has been accused of cheating on both Peerbet and Multidice before.
It is nice to see you refunding his deposit when he is trying to cheat.

retrocoingames

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The reduction of the house edge to 1.56% means that the wheels are much fairer and inline with the odds at other sites.

This means that playing on our wheels now should see a lot more winners!

retrocoingames

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Since Retro Coin Games acquired Bitwheel.io one of top priorities has been to bring the house edge in line with our other games. All four wheels have been updated with the new house edge!

Previously the house edge was 6.25% and it is now down to a house edge of 1.56%.

New Classic Wheel:

New 50/50 Wheel:

New 1000% Wheel:

New Atomic Wheel:

lg1500

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lol Aviba you dirty cheater you made 26 btc from cheating ?

retrocoingames

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We don't discuss the specifics behind exploits publicly. We don't want to give any more advantage to the exploiters/hackers/scammers than they already have. Not a week goes by where we don't receive some sort of threat or exploit attempt on our websites. If you doubt Aviba's history for this sort of thing then please take a read of this latest posts and let us know what you make of it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aviba-359930

Coef

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Quote from: retrocoingames on November 09, 2014, 11:24:58 PM

Aviba,

After a lengthy review of our logs and contact with other Bitcoin Gambling Operators the consensus is that you've got a reputation for exploiting websites in this way. The fraud checks that take place before our otherwise instant withdrawals are processed are in place to stop activity like this. We will refund the deposit you initially made into your doug1 account but please do not play our games anymore.

When you exploit like this you will not be able to withdraw your winnings and in the future we won't refund your deposits. This was your last chance with us! Please take your activities elsewhere.

Could you disclose the details of the attack so that we will know his withdrawal was denied for a good reason?

retrocoingames

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Aviba,

After a lengthy review of our logs and contact with other Bitcoin Gambling Operators the consensus is that you've got a reputation for exploiting websites in this way. The fraud checks that take place before our otherwise instant withdrawals are processed are in place to stop activity like this. We will refund the deposit you initially made into your doug1 account but please do not play our games anymore.

When you exploit like this you will not be able to withdraw your winnings and in the future we won't refund your deposits. This was your last chance with us! Please take your activities elsewhere.

I hope you can call it a day now your deposit has been refunded:
https://blockchain.info/tx/e6a2f1ff0e69b3654b0924b3a37b41f090eeedc42b76da190115d27882c7b82e

Aviba

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Quote from: retrocoingames on November 09, 2014, 03:25:48 AM

Hi doug1,

We are just looking into this now, as it looks like there was some strange activity from your account, and the withdraw was put in a que for manual approval.

still no withdrawal. what is strange? i won on first bet and withdrew. i won much bigger amounts in just-dice and other sites and withdrew instantly without trouble.

retrocoingames

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Hi doug1,

We are just looking into this now, as it looks like there was some strange activity from your account, and the withdraw was put in a que for manual approval.

Aviba

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Quote from: retrocoingames on November 08, 2014, 06:35:46 PM

Quote from: c0ldfusi0n on November 08, 2014, 02:59:15 PM

Quote from: hardshot on June 05, 2014, 03:31:26 AM

Instant Withdrawals

when I tried to withdraw it popped a message box about my coins shortly arriving, but still nothing happened (few hours passed)

Your response? why are withdrawals not instant like you advertise?

That is strange can you send PM your username and I will look into it

My username is doug1. Withdrawal still hasn't arrived, and my balance remains at 0 BTC.
I advise people here not to play at this site until this is resolved and explained. Withdrawals not instant and not sent out at all.

retrocoingames

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Quote from: JimClone on November 08, 2014, 02:59:56 PM

Just tried your site faucet works but the wheel doesn't spin?

We have heard there is a problem with the wheel on some browsers which we are looking into now. What browser are you using JimClone?

retrocoingames

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Quote from: CrackedLogic on November 08, 2014, 08:22:50 AM

I think you should redesign the wheel, it doesn't fit in with the colour scheme of the website.

But good overall, nice payouts.

Thanks for the feedback on the colour scheme - taken on board!

retrocoingames

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Quote from: c0ldfusi0n on November 08, 2014, 02:59:15 PM

Quote from: hardshot on June 05, 2014, 03:31:26 AM

Instant Withdrawals

when I tried to withdraw it popped a message box about my coins shortly arriving, but still nothing happened (few hours passed)

Your response? why are withdrawals not instant like you advertise?

That is strange can you send PM your username and I will look into it

JimClone

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Just tried your site faucet works but the wheel doesn't spin?

c0ldfusi0n

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Quote from: hardshot on June 05, 2014, 03:31:26 AM

Instant Withdrawals

when I tried to withdraw it popped a message box about my coins shortly arriving, but still nothing happened (few hours passed)

Your response? why are withdrawals not instant like you advertise?

CrackedLogic

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I think you should redesign the wheel, it doesn't fit in with the colour scheme of the website.

But good overall, nice payouts.

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