Just curious what you think about orders from retail places that say 15 day back order. I ordered 8 x RX580's from a place that shows a backorder list of hundreds with details about when they expect each batch in. I went ahead and ordered the rest of the gear, but perhaps should have waited until the back order was closer, since I might blow past my 30 day return policy before the cards get in.
Like everyone, I'm eager to start mining, and wondering if people ordering from places that are ordering themselves on demand are actually getting their cards.
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Catching up on the forum posts.. Again there is no point on trying to convince people we are not mining for ourselves, there have been a number of customers receiving systems, some on the forums and some not, I had a couple of customers let me know whats happening on the thread and suggested I take some time to get on the forum...
Sent an email update yesterday to all buyers with pending orders, so they have the details and options... I had a number of people ask for barebones systems so they are available immediately for anyone with a pending order that wants one or more, in lieu of waiting on GPUs, which is the critically important, missing piece... Outside of that a refund is always available...
It's a bad situation all around with very limited numbers of GPUs coming into the US, initially hoped we would be somewhat insulated from it since we order direct from manufacturers, but even they are being starved with millions of ASICs on back order from AMD between Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, etc..
Cards are coming but they are trickling in, AMD forces some into the retail channels occasionally so it's not completely starved but it's an average of 100 at a time, and very scattered so GPUs will show in small numbers occasionally but if they do they disappear quick... We order in volume and although we will take less the large orders are being cancelled, held, or otherwise not fulfilled with a massive backlog of orders at this point... So we are still receiving GPUs at a slow pace and delivering some orders, but it is much slower than anyone wants.
Sent an email update yesterday to all buyers with pending orders, so they have the details and options... I had a number of people ask for barebones systems so they are available immediately for anyone with a pending order that wants one or more, in lieu of waiting on GPUs, which is the critically important, missing piece... Outside of that a refund is always available...
It's a bad situation all around with very limited numbers of GPUs coming into the US, initially hoped we would be somewhat insulated from it since we order direct from manufacturers, but even they are being starved with millions of ASICs on back order from AMD between Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, etc..
Cards are coming but they are trickling in, AMD forces some into the retail channels occasionally so it's not completely starved but it's an average of 100 at a time, and very scattered so GPUs will show in small numbers occasionally but if they do they disappear quick... We order in volume and although we will take less the large orders are being cancelled, held, or otherwise not fulfilled with a massive backlog of orders at this point... So we are still receiving GPUs at a slow pace and delivering some orders, but it is much slower than anyone wants.
That's good to hear you are offering barebone systems as alternative solutions -- is this a regular offering or something that you're doing because of this special case? I just built another rig myself and have parts coming for another behind it but it would be good to know if this is static offering for future rigs I build.
I know there is a lot of flak in this thread right now but it's good to hear that you're working towards the solution - thanks for the update.
It's something being done specific for any existing customer with a pending order, driven by the handful that asked... It's not something we intend to normally offer.. Put 100 in stock for the set of customers this impacts...
i need barebone system link 500usd or be delt with.
u choose.
u choose.
Catching up on the forum posts.. Again there is no point on trying to convince people we are not mining for ourselves, there have been a number of customers receiving systems, some on the forums and some not, I had a couple of customers let me know whats happening on the thread and suggested I take some time to get on the forum...
Sent an email update yesterday to all buyers with pending orders, so they have the details and options... I had a number of people ask for barebones systems so they are available immediately for anyone with a pending order that wants one or more, in lieu of waiting on GPUs, which is the critically important, missing piece... Outside of that a refund is always available...
It's a bad situation all around with very limited numbers of GPUs coming into the US, initially hoped we would be somewhat insulated from it since we order direct from manufacturers, but even they are being starved with millions of ASICs on back order from AMD between Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, etc..
Cards are coming but they are trickling in, AMD forces some into the retail channels occasionally so it's not completely starved but it's an average of 100 at a time, and very scattered so GPUs will show in small numbers occasionally but if they do they disappear quick... We order in volume and although we will take less the large orders are being cancelled, held, or otherwise not fulfilled with a massive backlog of orders at this point... So we are still receiving GPUs at a slow pace and delivering some orders, but it is much slower than anyone wants.
Sent an email update yesterday to all buyers with pending orders, so they have the details and options... I had a number of people ask for barebones systems so they are available immediately for anyone with a pending order that wants one or more, in lieu of waiting on GPUs, which is the critically important, missing piece... Outside of that a refund is always available...
It's a bad situation all around with very limited numbers of GPUs coming into the US, initially hoped we would be somewhat insulated from it since we order direct from manufacturers, but even they are being starved with millions of ASICs on back order from AMD between Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, etc..
Cards are coming but they are trickling in, AMD forces some into the retail channels occasionally so it's not completely starved but it's an average of 100 at a time, and very scattered so GPUs will show in small numbers occasionally but if they do they disappear quick... We order in volume and although we will take less the large orders are being cancelled, held, or otherwise not fulfilled with a massive backlog of orders at this point... So we are still receiving GPUs at a slow pace and delivering some orders, but it is much slower than anyone wants.
That's good to hear you are offering barebone systems as alternative solutions -- is this a regular offering or something that you're doing because of this special case? I just built another rig myself and have parts coming for another behind it but it would be good to know if this is static offering for future rigs I build.
I know there is a lot of flak in this thread right now but it's good to hear that you're working towards the solution - thanks for the update.
Its because literally zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks. Even companies like newegg and amazon are not getting them. Best guess has it being another 2-4 weeks out before orders start arriving.
Please don't make excuses for this guy when you don't know what you're talking about.
I placed my order much earlier than 2 weeks ago. GPUs were still readily available then and I am *seriously* regretting trusting this vendor rather than just buying them myself.
Furthermore he's sent out two emails since regarding the shipping delay and blamed it on issues with system stability NOT on issues procuring the GPUs. Which is a load of horseshit of course. At this point I'd be happy if he would would just send me the damn GPUs.
It's blatantly obvious he's decided it makes more sense for him to hold the units people paid for and mine with them himself now that the GPU supply has dried up. Or that's sure how it seems from where I'm sitting. I would LOVE to be wrong. Has anyone received an order from bitworks in the past month and a half?
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zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks.
And this is false anyway, I know a local computer store that restocked last week.
Catching up on the forum posts.. Again there is no point on trying to convince people we are not mining for ourselves, there have been a number of customers receiving systems, some on the forums and some not, I had a couple of customers let me know whats happening on the thread and suggested I take some time to get on the forum...
Sent an email update yesterday to all buyers with pending orders, so they have the details and options... I had a number of people ask for barebones systems so they are available immediately for anyone with a pending order that wants one or more, in lieu of waiting on GPUs, which is the critically important, missing piece... Outside of that a refund is always available...
It's a bad situation all around with very limited numbers of GPUs coming into the US, initially hoped we would be somewhat insulated from it since we order direct from manufacturers, but even they are being starved with millions of ASICs on back order from AMD between Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, etc..
Cards are coming but they are trickling in, AMD forces some into the retail channels occasionally so it's not completely starved but it's an average of 100 at a time, and very scattered so GPUs will show in small numbers occasionally but if they do they disappear quick... We order in volume and although we will take less the large orders are being cancelled, held, or otherwise not fulfilled with a massive backlog of orders at this point... So we are still receiving GPUs at a slow pace and delivering some orders, but it is much slower than anyone wants.
harkifier guy sounds like is Brian Raymond to me. I order over 50x servers from Brian in April, since now I have yet receive any of my server yet. I sent the payment to him already.
1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...
Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!
Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon. Get your money back and hope to do something else.
1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...
Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!
Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon. Get your money back and hope to do something else.
It's been some time since I have been on the forum, been busy working things, it's the crypto space so I will never convince some people we are not sitting on systems, don't care to get into that fight as it's a lose-lose regardless..
I however have no outstanding orders for 50x systems that were paid for in April, we do have a handful of large pending orders from customers in May/June however I know who each one is and have talked with all of them this week... If you are one of the people that ordered and paid for a single system with the promise of buying more once it's delivered, then you are in the same boat as others, would however like to know the order number since you sound like Melvin from the writing, but those 2 systems were delivered last week...
harkifier guy sounds like is Brian Raymond to me. I order over 50x servers from Brian in April, since now I have yet receive any of my server yet. I sent the payment to him already.
1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...
Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!
Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon. Get your money back and hope to do something else.
1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...
Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!
Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon. Get your money back and hope to do something else.
This is so unfortunate to hear.
Either this guy truly fell on some bad times / bad luck or something else is going on. Regardless of the reason, these stories are starting to become more prevalent and the lack of activity here from the business owner is very concerning.
Your point about the gold rush is valid, I'd hate to think this business is mining for extended periods with hardware paid for with other peoples money as part of "testing" similar to what we saw Bitmain do with the initial L3+ launch.
It looks like he registered the business to his home too, which makes this information being public all that much worse of a situation IMO.
Hope this business can get this resolved for everyone involved, I really hate to see this kind of thing happen.
Harkifier does have a point though. I've been waiting for a month now on an RMA GTX 1070 from Amazon.com, no one has them anywhere in USA except for an Ebay seller who is charging double for them right now. It's much worse for AMD Cards. I've called Amazon and they basically told me they can refund me or I can wait. I bought the card when it was on sale and because of demand the price has gone up near $100.
IMO this business needs to either refund those orders that can't be fulfilled inside of 4 weeks from order date and/or offer alternatives such as an nvidia based rig at a higher cost instead of AMD to those that have already placed orders.
How hot do these get in the inside? Id imagine pretty hot it outside in the garage?
harkifier guy sounds like is Brian Raymond to me. I order over 50x servers from Brian in April, since now I have yet receive any of my server yet. I sent the payment to him already.
1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...
Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!
Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon. Get your money back and hope to do something else.
Bitworks LLC
Phone: (757) 358-0505 (HIS CELL PHONE)
Phone: (757) 504-2947 (HIS GOOGLE VOICE)
Brian Raymond Brian Raymond
Chief Executive Officer
Bitworks LLC
Registered Agent/Registered Office
BRIAN RAYMOND
608 WEST RIVERVIEW ROAD
SUFFOLK VA 23434
SUFFOLK CITY 220
Status: Active
Effective Date: 8/28/2014
1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...
Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!
Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon. Get your money back and hope to do something else.
Bitworks LLC
Phone: (757) 358-0505 (HIS CELL PHONE)
Phone: (757) 504-2947 (HIS GOOGLE VOICE)
Brian Raymond Brian Raymond
Chief Executive Officer
Bitworks LLC
Registered Agent/Registered Office
BRIAN RAYMOND
608 WEST RIVERVIEW ROAD
SUFFOLK VA 23434
SUFFOLK CITY 220
Status: Active
Effective Date: 8/28/2014
What GPUs are in these?
Obviously I can't now. But I could have when I originally placed this order with padrino and for awhile after. I foolishly trusted that the email updates he was sending out were accurate but it's clear now they were lies.
If you don't see something wrong with that then you really are a moron.
If you don't see something wrong with that then you really are a moron.
get a refund then and buy them somewhere you can get them faster.
Unless you are saying you cant get it elsewhere faster. Because if you could, certainly the right move would be to get a refund and do that.
Unless you are saying you cant get it elsewhere faster. Because if you could, certainly the right move would be to get a refund and do that.
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I dont blame padrino
Just because you are an idiot doesn't mean the rest of us are. He used our money to purchase a bunch of GPUs and when the profitability skyrocketed decided it would be better to sit on them than fulfill orders.
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shut the fuck up
Nah I don't think I will. It's important the community is aware of shady business practices like this. If someone selling miners only fulfills orders when profitability is poor, maybe that's not someone people should be buying miners from.
I'm missing out on massive profits because I ordered GPUs through this guy rather than a reputable vendor and I know I'm not alone. The fact that GPUs started going out of stock everywhere weeks after my order was placed is not an excuse.
And like the other guy has said, if that's supposedly the case maybe he should say so but he hasn't even done that. Of course he can't because it would make no sense in light of the last two mass email updates he sent out.
Its because literally zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks. Even companies like newegg and amazon are not getting them. Best guess has it being another 2-4 weeks out before orders start arriving.
Please don't make excuses for this guy when you don't know what you're talking about.
I placed my order much earlier than 2 weeks ago. GPUs were still readily available then and I am *seriously* regretting trusting this vendor rather than just buying them myself.
Furthermore he's sent out two emails since regarding the shipping delay and blamed it on issues with system stability NOT on issues procuring the GPUs. Which is a load of horseshit of course. At this point I'd be happy if he would would just send me the damn GPUs.
It's blatantly obvious he's decided it makes more sense for him to hold the units people paid for and mine with them himself now that the GPU supply has dried up. Or that's sure how it seems from where I'm sitting. I would LOVE to be wrong. Has anyone received an order from bitworks in the past month and a half?
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zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks.
And this is false anyway, I know a local computer store that restocked last week.
Listen, he is honoring refund requests right now. If you dont want to wait, go get a refund. It will be processed the same day (mine was). I dont blame padrino, i just didnt want to wait. So either shut the fuck up and wait for your machine or get a refund. You cant have it both ways. You should also be happy if you paid in eth/btc because its worth more now also.
how to keep faith in ur customers:
"um sorry guys everyone is out of gpus cant build rigs for you guys"
how to be this guy:
"..."
wtf is so hard about option A
why wont just sell the case as standalone??
"um sorry guys everyone is out of gpus cant build rigs for you guys"
how to be this guy:
"..."
wtf is so hard about option A
why wont just sell the case as standalone
?? Its because literally zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks. Even companies like newegg and amazon are not getting them. Best guess has it being another 2-4 weeks out before orders start arriving.
Please don't make excuses for this guy when you don't know what you're talking about.
I placed my order much earlier than 2 weeks ago. GPUs were still readily available then and I am *seriously* regretting trusting this vendor rather than just buying them myself.
Furthermore he's sent out two emails since regarding the shipping delay and blamed it on issues with system stability NOT on issues procuring the GPUs. Which is a load of horseshit of course. At this point I'd be happy if he would would just send me the damn GPUs.
It's blatantly obvious he's decided it makes more sense for him to hold the units people paid for and mine with them himself now that the GPU supply has dried up. Or that's sure how it seems from where I'm sitting. I would LOVE to be wrong. Has anyone received an order from bitworks in the past month and a half?
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zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks.
And this is false anyway, I know a local computer store that restocked last week.
has anyone heard or received anything from this guy at all recently? for me its been radio silence since his group email on 5/29/17 despite several inquiries and missing the shipping date he originally quoted.
Its because literally zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks. Even companies like newegg and amazon are not getting them. Best guess has it being another 2-4 weeks out before orders start arriving.
has anyone heard or received anything from this guy at all recently? for me its been radio silence since his group email on 5/29/17 despite several inquiries and missing the shipping date he originally quoted.
anyone have anymore news if the machines are stable now?
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