Topic: blackcoin march/april moon trip and altcoin scene going to shit? (Read 931 times)

Well i hope youre not insinuating that i said BC came up with POS because I said nothing of the sort. I said it sparked the POS flood gates.

Blackhalo ripped off NXT features, so what, they have a unique implementation(it's innovation and can be continually improved upon possibly surpassing the NXT inspiration it was derived from). The best often steal/borrow/copy from the best.

I don't follow BC so its interesting to hear about the BC community affairs allbeit second source. I like the platform from the outside looking in. I just dont have the confidence to lay down cold hard cash yet, and thats my fundamental problem with BC.

update..
(is blackhalo even opensource?)(im starting to talk myself out of liking BC) - I really dont know enough about them.
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no idea if it's open source or not. and i agree they were the first to get it into regular C as opposed to NXT (using java).  I prefer NXT because it actually has functionality that BTC and altcoins don't have (and a whole lot more of that functionality under development and planned) - most of these BTC clone altcoins could just vanish and nobody would even miss them. None of them have any kind of features or anything that would be mised or could be conisdered to be unique or important to anyone. imo, having a shorter block time than BTC hardly means a coin should exist (especially when a coin has a hefty pre/flash/insta-mine).  maybe in a few more years of BTC adoption, until then people should be spending their efforts on either encouraging BTC adoption or working on coins that actually are moving crypto technology forward (such as cryptonote coins, or NXT / blockchain 2.0 coins)

BC did not come up with POS.  PPC was the first POS coin by well over a year.  NXT was close to PPC in terms of implementing POS.  Anyone believing that BC was forging new ground being a stake coin really needs to learn some crypto coin history and stop reading misinformation.

And none of the blackhalo work is anything more than a direct rip of NXT features, it's like the people organizing BC have wet dreams of one day having as much functionality as NXT has already had for monthes.
I just think some of the biggest grifters in the whole crypto scene made their seed money off of blackcoin.
the highlight was how they were all about being the 'doges of wall street' and stuff - as if they weren't aware of the fact that the wolf of wall street is a tale of one of the biggest investment grifter fraud artists of all time.  i'm sure he's like their primadonna fuckin idol.

it's no wonder that we're left with so much shit afterwards....

BC was the POS spark in the Altcoin market. It was the first big  one to innovate pos/hybrid technology.

I remember when black coin first came on the scene. It was marketed  to people fed up with being under privileged. I never got into it and a few weeks/months later it was BC with all new marketing and something fresh on the scene. I still never got into it.

This guy says that BC is 100% premined - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rpietila-altcoin-observer-624223
I don't remember it being 100% premined. This is my point. Who is going to get into BC when negative rumors are floating.(other than a hyped pump of-course).


BC came out with Halo and whats the other thing called(you know what im talking about), any way these seam to be very innovative. I looked at the wallets and i was impressed(i did not use them just looked at functionality). I really thought ppl would see these and buy into BC(as i was temped myself but i held off). Decentralized exchange and assets all from a POS coin. This is pretty amazing stuff. The market completely ignored it for some reason(based on price).

The price has come down to $6 million. Again i am tempted to buy because im impressed with dev team and lack of slowdown. I again hold off on purchasing.

Here we are today talking about BC and how it has gone to ****.


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Fill me in on what i am missing. Why and what is going on with BC right now?

They could continue to be the POS innovators and be known for that. Maybe BC is trying to get cheap so to buy it up cheap before the next pump campaign?

like right when they all got rich a few months ago (what was it, march or april maybe?) when www.blackcoinpool.com was very first released (and when they stopped using the www.blackcoinminer.com domain name - the github for that old domain is still open to the public and explains tons about the suspiciously high hashrates / miner counts that blackcoinpool always has) - that was like the defining moment when things turned to shit, i think.  Like before that I don't think the majority of coins were 100% attempts to hustle and scam BTC.

Shit, before like march/april we only had one word for a premine!

Or maybe it was when DRK started taking off (which was interesting enough only a few weeks after BC shot up back then, if I recall correctly).

does anyone else agree?

It makes me wish there was some kind of archive for altcoin timeline events (and no, i don't mean that shitty scamcoin calendar) so we could eaily look back and see what events lined up with what events.

OH! and before you DRK and BC people get all on my ass about how great your coins are - before you post anything like that, you tell me even a single thing that would be missed if either of your coins were completely destroyed tomorrow.  Like who would be missing out on what, exactly? Our scene needs to stop artificially inflating coin prices on sheer speculative value alone because there are no reliable ways of confirming speculative value in a scene with as little trust as this. We need to start basing prices on coin functionality and technical merit instead.

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