I have been trying to figure out how to get some active connections to a bitcoin network and it won't work. I've tried changing the IP and also the port and nothing is working. I'm 266 weeks behind and i need this done asap. Anyone who could help it would be greatly appreciated thank you.
tried with bootstrap.dat file ? 
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I have been trying to figure out how to get some active connections to a bitcoin network and it won't work. I've tried changing the IP and also the port and nothing is working. I'm 266 weeks behind and i need this done asap. Anyone who could help it would be greatly appreciated thank you.
i don't laugh about my P2P file sharing system ... since 15 years in less than v1.00 (emule 0.50a). 
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"Use up to 10 GB of disk space" and it will never use more than that
That would be amazing.Current client development is so early beta or even alpha. We will laught about it in couple years.
Hmm ... IMO if you are begginier in bitcoin world you should 1st of all try bitcoin core. And then you may think about smaller weight clients.
Core is probably the best desktop wallet out there.
Core is probably the best desktop wallet out there.
Here is an example of the point I'm making -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/synchronzing-funds-lost-537748
Until either Bitcoin Core doesn't take forever and a day to sync, or it stops being the "official" client, then we'll see posts like this with an ever increasing frequency.
Perhaps the bitcoin.org site could only reference the "Bitcoin Core" app under the "developers" section, and for the "getting started" only reference wallets that don't need the full block chain. Just a thought.
The idea you also realize the need for a very long time Until either Bitcoin Core doesn't take forever and a day to sync, or it stops being the "official" client, then we'll see posts like this with an ever increasing frequency.
Perhaps the bitcoin.org site could only reference the "Bitcoin Core" app under the "developers" section, and for the "getting started" only reference wallets that don't need the full block chain. Just a thought.
Here is an example of the point I'm making -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/synchronzing-funds-lost-537748
Until either Bitcoin Core doesn't take forever and a day to sync, or it stops being the "official" client, then we'll see posts like this with an ever increasing frequency.
Perhaps the bitcoin.org site could only reference the "Bitcoin Core" app under the "developers" section, and for the "getting started" only reference wallets that don't need the full block chain. Just a thought.
Until either Bitcoin Core doesn't take forever and a day to sync, or it stops being the "official" client, then we'll see posts like this with an ever increasing frequency.
Perhaps the bitcoin.org site could only reference the "Bitcoin Core" app under the "developers" section, and for the "getting started" only reference wallets that don't need the full block chain. Just a thought.
Anyway. I haven't got blockchain on my pc and I am still bitcoin user. How come? ( don't anwer, we all know Tongue )
You do not need qt to be a bitcoiner.
You do not need qt to be a bitcoiner.
I don't have PayPal's database on my computer, but I'm a PayPal users. Nor do I have a printing press, but I'm a $USD user.
One of the most interesting things about Bitcoin in the early days was that my router served as a perfectly adequate first-class peer in what was then a Peer-2-Peer solution. I had to rely on nobody but myself to fully validate transactions.
Everyone (or at least a fraction of us who have some comprehension of computer science) knew that there would be a shift here. It remains an open question if the end result looks more like early Bitcoin or more like a significantly centralized construct like our mainstream banking solution. Time will tell.
Anyway. I haven't got blockchain on my pc and I am still bitcoin user. How come? ( don't anwer, we all know Tongue )
You do not need qt to be a bitcoiner.
You do not need qt to be a bitcoiner.
"Block chain size/storage and slow downloads for new users"
IMO - any new game like example Thief need about 25gb... so you are telling me blockchain size is huge and scary?
in next 5 years games will weight 100gb perhaps. Till 1995 biggest game I had was recorded on two 1.4mb disks...
so do not tell me anything about blockchain size.
It is SMALL. and maybe one day it will be big.
You can buy 1TB HDD for less than 100$ ...
Don't tell me Blockchain is big.
Anyway. I haven't got blockchain on my pc and I am still bitcoin user. How come? ( don't anwer, we all know
)You do not need qt to be a bitcoiner.
So much info. 
There are ways to get around the stupid small size of the SSD's. Blockchain for some reason with the OLD Stupid stuff, seems not a issue at all.
I think most people here are either in IT or know there way around a computer. So, I know you know how to deal with this, as do I.
I guess my point really was that my father/mother/uncle/aunt wouldn't, and if we can't make bitcoin approachable for the non-techie then bitcoin has failed.
I'm hopeful since alternative clients exist, and hopefully they take off. But, the point still remains that Bitcoin-Qt is "marketed" as the "official" client and is the one most people start with. First impressions are very important.
Sell em on multibit, it rips thru the blockchain sync, in seconds.
Selling a faster wallet type is your job.
There are ways to get around the stupid small size of the SSD's. Blockchain for some reason with the OLD Stupid stuff, seems not a issue at all.
I think most people here are either in IT or know there way around a computer. So, I know you know how to deal with this, as do I.
I guess my point really was that my father/mother/uncle/aunt wouldn't, and if we can't make bitcoin approachable for the non-techie then bitcoin has failed.
I'm hopeful since alternative clients exist, and hopefully they take off. But, the point still remains that Bitcoin-Qt is "marketed" as the "official" client and is the one most people start with. First impressions are very important.
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Thanks everyone. Learning a lot from this thread.
Just for the reference - finally downloaded the whole blockchain tonight.
So, for Feb. 26, 2014 we have:
# of blocks: 287930
19.267088 GB in .blocks folder.
Soon approaching 20Gb.
Just for the reference - finally downloaded the whole blockchain tonight.
So, for Feb. 26, 2014 we have:
# of blocks: 287930
19.267088 GB in .blocks folder.
Soon approaching 20Gb.
My two bits on blockchain size, 20gb at a time when you will have trouble buying a 1tb drive.
Seems to be scaled well enuf. 2tb and up are all the rage now. 20gb is nothing.
Network speed and bandwidth is another story. We are way behind on that. By now home users should be at OC3 capability.
We are far far behind that. Wireless ?? speeds/bandwidth are a joke.
Blockchain is designed well. Well thought out.
1 and 2 TB drives IF (and big IF) you're assuming people prefer archaic rotating hard disks. For a LOT of applications people have moved to solid state drives. Having a 20GB mess of junk on my 400GB SSD is EXPENSIVE.
If Bitcoin is to attract the masses, we (collectively) cannot assume that everyone uses a computer the same way.
For me, the blockchain has gotten STUPID the past year and a half.
There are ways to get around the stupid small size of the SSD's. Blockchain for some reason with the OLD Stupid stuff, seems not a issue at all.
what about electrum how does this compare?
You can use electrum without full chain, but if you want to download full chain it is always the same size for any client
(size growing constantly)
Thanks everyone. Learning a lot from this thread.
Just for the reference - finally downloaded the whole blockchain tonight.
So, for Feb. 26, 2014 we have:
# of blocks: 287930
19.267088 GB in .blocks folder.
Soon approaching 20Gb.
Just for the reference - finally downloaded the whole blockchain tonight.
So, for Feb. 26, 2014 we have:
# of blocks: 287930
19.267088 GB in .blocks folder.
Soon approaching 20Gb.
My two bits on blockchain size, 20gb at a time when you will have trouble buying a 1tb drive.
Seems to be scaled well enuf. 2tb and up are all the rage now. 20gb is nothing.
Network speed and bandwidth is another story. We are way behind on that. By now home users should be at OC3 capability.
We are far far behind that. Wireless ?? speeds/bandwidth are a joke.
Blockchain is designed well. Well thought out.
1 and 2 TB drives IF (and big IF) you're assuming people prefer archaic rotating hard disks. For a LOT of applications people have moved to solid state drives. Having a 20GB mess of junk on my 400GB SSD is EXPENSIVE.
If Bitcoin is to attract the masses, we (collectively) cannot assume that everyone uses a computer the same way.
For me, the blockchain has gotten STUPID the past year and a half.
Thanks everyone. Learning a lot from this thread.
Just for the reference - finally downloaded the whole blockchain tonight.
So, for Feb. 26, 2014 we have:
# of blocks: 287930
19.267088 GB in .blocks folder.
Soon approaching 20Gb.
Just for the reference - finally downloaded the whole blockchain tonight.
So, for Feb. 26, 2014 we have:
# of blocks: 287930
19.267088 GB in .blocks folder.
Soon approaching 20Gb.
My two bits on blockchain size, 20gb at a time when you will have trouble buying a 1tb drive.
Seems to be scaled well enuf. 2tb and up are all the rage now. 20gb is nothing.
Network speed and bandwidth is another story. We are way behind on that. By now home users should be at OC3 capability.
We are far far behind that. Wireless ?? speeds/bandwidth are a joke.
Blockchain is designed well. Well thought out.
what about electrum how does this compare?
and 24h to retrieve the blockchain, you must have a 10MBit/s to do that.
20GB @ 1Mbit = 45 hours - in theory - in real it could be 5 hours on 10mbit - the only problem is fast CPU&enough RAM, no other things doing and fast (not busy HDD) - so lets say 6-10 hours on slow 3yo PCSo we just need much more 1Gbit nodes - I plan to get 3 in EU + 2 in US - June??
And then it only depends on CPU ...
20*8*1024/1/3600=45
You can replace "1" with other number of megabits
20*8*1024/1/3600=45
explanation:
20GB*8(byte to bits)*1024(GB to MB)/1(conn speed)/3600(seconds to hours)=45
So IMHO - less full nodes (not every user needs full blockchain - webwallits, light clients, other projects, offline transactions ...) and 100/100 Mbit is standard for servers - so again - i c no problem.
Like 1hour to sync - some mirrors i am syncing 2 days on 1 Gbit ... - but I do it once a 4 years?
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