Block Erupter Prisma2.0 Auction: Round One

CanaryInTheMine

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between a rock and a block!

Quote from: Blazed on April 28, 2015, 01:30:09 PM

Quote from: server on April 28, 2015, 10:49:59 AM

Quote from: friedcat on January 25, 2015, 03:03:51 AM

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

Quoting FC last post for preservation.

Good idea to quote scammers before they decide to login and start deleting stuff!

We have seen this behavior before from others cleaning their tracks... But in this case, fc abandoned, and in my opinion, he won't touch his previous accounts not to created traces. I think there are 2 outcomes: one, we never hear from him again, two he reappears on his own.

Blazed

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Quote from: server on April 28, 2015, 10:49:59 AM

Quote from: friedcat on January 25, 2015, 03:03:51 AM

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

Quoting FC last post for preservation.

Good idea to quote scammers before they decide to login and start deleting stuff!

server

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1 BTC =1 BTC

Quote from: friedcat on January 25, 2015, 03:03:51 AM

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

Quoting FC last post for preservation.

bbxx

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cryptoshark

i would buy some stuff but with such resolutions i am dissapointed.

Sine(X)

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Quote from: tvasbn on January 27, 2015, 07:50:41 AM

phasebird will announce the users who actually paid?

Perhaps the first round will be replayed Grin

Blazed

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Quote from: tvasbn on January 27, 2015, 07:50:41 AM

phasebird will announce the users who actually paid?

It is AM...you really expect an answer in a timely fashion? Roll Eyes

tvasbn

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phasebird will announce the users who actually paid?

romerun

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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.

this should be done in a distributed platform, putting collateral before bidding

tutorialevideo

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Don`t invest more than you can afford to lose

Wainting for round 2 more luck to come

dance191

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P.S. Personally I am now out. The BTC I had for this auction I already spent and it would take me a few days to get the 8+ BTC again.

Things like that hurt their auction...

dance191

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Quote from: suchmoon on January 25, 2015, 06:05:41 PM

Quote from: dance191 on January 25, 2015, 04:45:04 PM

I don't think ASICMiner did anything shady, but those bids are not real. Maybe it is just a competitor trying to mess with them, I don't know.

What would be the reason for anyone to mess with this? Delay? Doesn't seem to matter much to AM since they should be able to sell them to the next highest bidder(s).

Just to create all of the problems we have here (make the bidders suspect foul play, create mistrust of ASICMiner, tie up the auction for a few days waiting for the fake bidders to time out so ASICMiner then has to go down the list, maybe by the time they get to valid bidders, the valid bidders are less interested and maybe will not pay, people will be less interested in future rounds due to the problems in the first round, etc). Overall any problems that this auction now has due to the fake bidders might be a reason to mess with.

I am not saying it would be a good idea for someone to mess with the auction, but someone is.

However, this is just me guessing, I don't know anything for certain.

mavericklm

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Shady or not, atm is not our problem!

Next time give more time, 1and half day was much too little!

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: dance191 on January 25, 2015, 04:45:04 PM

I don't think ASICMiner did anything shady, but those bids are not real. Maybe it is just a competitor trying to mess with them, I don't know.

What would be the reason for anyone to mess with this? Delay? Doesn't seem to matter much to AM since they should be able to sell them to the next highest bidder(s).

dance191

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Quote from: klondike_bar on January 25, 2015, 01:26:50 PM

Quote from: LordPaco on January 25, 2015, 01:08:32 PM

My first thought was some oversea big players with some cheap to free power. Still high bid was really around .2btc off the prisma price back in October. Huh

The SP15 15pack wins hands down at that price and considering we are bidding with a minimum of 20 that's really the best comparison to use.

I might as well publicly declare it here: I'm building a .5MW farm, and these would be a nice way to get a head start on more machines. The title thread has the words 'Round One' so maybe we will see this kind of auction again. I enjoyed it for what its worth.

yeah the 15x SP20 is really the best comparison against 20x Prisma

25TH/19kW/22.5BTC vs 28TH/23kW/22BTC (according to the 1.1BTC/ea bid by coinchina)

a difference of 3TH/4kW/-0.5BTC for equipment that is larger, cant underclock, and has an external ethernet controller. I dont understand whay the bid would be so high.

I can't see any reason why the bidding would get high either. Personally, a SP20 is worth twice what a Prisma is worth (per TH/s versus per TH/s). The SP-20 has a huge range of efficencies, a real controller, works on any pool (I don't know if they solved that with the new controller), runs like a champ (makes even Bitmain look like junk), keeps really good resale value and lets not forget about the smoking issues of the past.

I don't think ASICMiner did anything shady, but those bids are not real. Maybe it is just a competitor trying to mess with them, I don't know.

klondike_bar

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ASIC Wannabe

Quote from: LordPaco on January 25, 2015, 01:08:32 PM

My first thought was some oversea big players with some cheap to free power. Still high bid was really around .2btc off the prisma price back in October. Huh

The SP15 15pack wins hands down at that price and considering we are bidding with a minimum of 20 that's really the best comparison to use.

I might as well publicly declare it here: I'm building a .5MW farm, and these would be a nice way to get a head start on more machines. The title thread has the words 'Round One' so maybe we will see this kind of auction again. I enjoyed it for what its worth.

yeah the 15x SP20 is really the best comparison against 20x Prisma

25TH/19kW/22.5BTC vs 28TH/23kW/22BTC (according to the 1.1BTC/ea bid by coinchina)

a difference of 3TH/4kW/-0.5BTC for equipment that is larger, cant underclock, and has an external ethernet controller. I dont understand whay the bid would be so high.

LordPaco

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My first thought was some oversea big players with some cheap to free power. Still high bid was really around .2btc off the prisma price back in October. Huh

The SP15 15pack wins hands down at that price and considering we are bidding with a minimum of 20 that's really the best comparison to use.

I might as well publicly declare it here: I'm building a .5MW farm, and these would be a nice way to get a head start on more machines. The title thread has the words 'Round One' so maybe we will see this kind of auction again. I enjoyed it for what its worth.

CanaryInTheMine

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between a rock and a block!

Quote from: LordPaco on January 25, 2015, 11:23:10 AM

I just received a PM from 'freidcat' saying I won my lot of 60 @ .52. I got pretty excited until I went to reply to the PM and looked at the same. Watch out for scammers guys.

Impostor profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/freidcat-416859
I left negative feedback, please join me in exposing this scammer.
If there are other user accounts pretending to be friedcat, please post a link to their profile (not a picture) or use quote feature of your PM, it will capture the link to impostors profile. We can add appropriate negative feedback to these scammers

klondike_bar

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ASIC Wannabe

looking back at the bid the only "legitimate" ones i see are:

Quote from: lightlord on January 25, 2015, 02:56:42 AM

22 @ 0.43

1176 posts, legendary member

Quote from: Mariowot on January 25, 2015, 02:53:35 AM

20@54
its cool how todays registered accounts are bumping the price ;]

252 posts, Sr. member

Quote from: dance191 on January 25, 2015, 02:42:14 AM

20 @ 0.42

118 posts, member (Ive dealt with him and he is legit)

Quote from: LordPaco on January 25, 2015, 02:33:02 AM

60 @ .52 YUUUUUUUP!!!

67 posts, member

and some bids by nangong up to 0.8/ea

Most of the bids are by users with <10 posts, and pkuphy registered today, bid over 1.0btc/prisma (which as i mentioned is ludicrous since you get get 1.5x the hashrate out of the SP20 with an order as small as 3 units and they are far more reliable - and a 15pack is even 10% cheaper)

Im interested to know how a brand new forum account will have access to 40BTC, but i guess that's phasebirds problem now. this auction was a shame - I have my doubts that the winners plan to pay

klondike_bar

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ASIC Wannabe

Quote from: Phasebird on January 25, 2015, 03:38:35 AM

Block Erupter Prisma2.0 Auction: Round One
Final result:
ID :coinchinanet
NUM :160
PRICE:1.1 BTC
TATAL:176 BTC

ID :pkuphy
NUM :40
PRICE:1 BTC
TATAL:40 BTC

both those users are <10 posts and its really suspicious.

seriously, I was planning to bid but my absolute highest bid was going to be about 0.5BTC per unit considering the past technical dificulties and ~0.8w/gh efficiency. in comparison, the SP20 has better efficiency even at 1.5x the hashrate, and is only ~1.5btc/each

this strikes me as shady

markj113

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Monitor all the newbie accounts, if they all go dead we can assume its a scam and neg feedback the the op.

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