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September 30, 2014, 12:07:52 AM
#29
They should set mininum send (0.00001 BTC)
Because i don't mind spammer send at least 1000 satoshi.

But the main problem is Miner/Pool
They shouldn't process spam tx

Faucets might want to group smaller amounts into a single transaction though.
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September 30, 2014, 12:06:47 AM
#28
and 0.00000001BTC for free, so whats the problem Tongue  ( just joking guys.. )
AGREE~~ Grin
I will feel happy if I receive 0.00000001 BTC (everyday)  Grin
Bitcoin address:1MFFpVnY7PYiVzggHNGgW84h88fQ5rrkxn
Welcome to send 0.00000001 BTC  Tongue
The cost (TX fee) to spend an input this small would be greater then the input therefor you would essentially not be able to ever spend such an input (unless the price of bitcoin rises substantially and average transactions sizes decrease substantially)
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September 29, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
#27
and 0.00000001BTC for free, so whats the problem Tongue  ( just joking guys.. )
AGREE~~ Grin
I will feel happy if I receive 0.00000001 BTC (everyday)  Grin
Bitcoin address:1MFFpVnY7PYiVzggHNGgW84h88fQ5rrkxn
Welcome to send 0.00000001 BTC  Tongue
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September 29, 2014, 09:15:37 PM
#26
does this in anyway damage the network?

Not really damage per se, but it can cause bloat and it is unnecessary. It'll also make recipients have to pay more as transaction fees, so it is an annoyance and 'damaging' in that way.
Recipients do not have to pay higher TX fees if they receive this dust spam as they can simply ignore these inputs and choose not to spend them.

I do agree that it does bloat up the blockchain and adds additional data that the nodes need to store, however this spam does provide valid and needed income to the miners
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September 29, 2014, 11:02:06 AM
#25
does this in anyway damage the network?

Not really damage per se, but it can cause bloat and it is unnecessary. It'll also make recipients have to pay more as transaction fees, so it is an annoyance and 'damaging' in that way.
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September 29, 2014, 10:45:38 AM
#24
does this in anyway damage the network?
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September 29, 2014, 10:12:21 AM
#23
I don't see why its a problem. I like the free money, if bitcoin hits a million a satoshi will be worth a cent, and you will be one cent richer because some spammers sent you some money. Its a win win situation.

The problem is this dust wont just be free money because it will cost you when you have to send a very large fee just to cover the transaction. Suddenly those free satoshis don't look so appealing.
He pays for the tx fee, I don't. When you have over 100$ in btc tx fees don't really matter to me.
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September 29, 2014, 08:46:10 AM
#22
I don't see why its a problem. I like the free money, if bitcoin hits a million a satoshi will be worth a cent, and you will be one cent richer because some spammers sent you some money. Its a win win situation.

The problem is this dust wont just be free money because it will cost you when you have to send a very large fee just to cover the transaction. Suddenly those free satoshis don't look so appealing.
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September 29, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
#21
I don't see why its a problem. I like the free money, if bitcoin hits a million a satoshi will be worth a cent, and you will be one cent richer because some spammers sent you some money. Its a win win situation.
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September 29, 2014, 06:13:31 AM
#20
They should set mininum send (0.00001 BTC)
Because i don't mind spammer send at least 1000 satoshi.

But the main problem is Miner/Pool
They shouldn't process spam tx

Can't miners already choose which transactions they complete? I think for the user it would be beneficial if they could set a minimum amount of coins they can recieve to stop this sort of stuff.
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September 29, 2014, 05:24:36 AM
#19
They should set mininum send (0.00001 BTC)
Because i don't mind spammer send at least 1000 satoshi.

But the main problem is Miner/Pool
They shouldn't process spam tx
sr. member
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September 29, 2014, 05:07:13 AM
#18
Perhaps Blockchain.info could only display messages associated with transactions where the value is over a certain amount, perhaps 0.001 BTC?

But I guess this would not stop spammers/advertisers who grouped transactions to pass this limit...

To further this, blockchain.info could modify their filter to not display messages where the average amount per output was above a certain threshold, but of course the advertisers/spammers would then just use a large output paid to an address they control to boost the average above the required value... Even using a median value to create the threshold could be relatively easily circumvented...

So I guess blockchain.info could try to implement some sort of filter for spam transactions, but I would guess it would be easily circumvented by the advertisers/spammers in no time... How for example should Blockchain.info differentiate between a faucet paying a large number of addresses in a "legitimate" transaction accompanied by a blockchain.info message, from an advert(/spam)?

Unfortunately I do not think that it is in Blockchain.info's interest and indeed within their capability to censor spam/adverts, and this kind of behaviour does not really follow with the ethics of the bitcoin movement anyway; if the action does not impede people's right to privacy, free space, right to life, freedom of speech, freedom of thought etc, then why should Blockchain.info be tasked with blocking or censoring such actions?

If you do not agree with their decision to allow 'mesasges' to be attached to transactions then you are free to use alternative blockchain explorer sites, for example:

blockr.io
biteasy or of course
block explorer

If you do not agree to store the (large?) blockchain on your computer, then use an SPV wallet, this is your prerogative.
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September 29, 2014, 03:31:03 AM
#17
No. It's like a history.  Think of people reading this messages 25 years in the future.  Cool
Maybe we should all send messages to our future selves.
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September 29, 2014, 02:46:12 AM
#16
No. It's like a history.  Think of people reading this messages 25 years in the future.  Cool
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:58:52 PM
#15
Also beware of blockchain.info phishing attempts, along with coinbase ones. If you see a random email from blockchain.info be vary wary as the phishing attempt is quite sophisticated.
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September 28, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
#14
Why spam ?
It's decided by miners to deal with Micro tx , not blockchain info.
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September 28, 2014, 08:39:26 PM
#13
http://blockchain.info/address/1BSmartoUnHz32AAdPKcc7cGGC3DiA4RSh [/url]  The bad behavior is enabled by blockchain.info

This guy is sending lots of 1 satoshi transactions... And not paying the full miner's fee?

Was that why almost none of the spam transactions were actually confirmed?
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September 28, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
#12
http://blockchain.info/address/1BSmartoUnHz32AAdPKcc7cGGC3DiA4RSh [/url]  The bad behavior is enabled by blockchain.info

This guy is sending lots of 1 satoshi transactions... And not paying the full miner's fee?
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 08:32:32 PM
#11
bc.info removed the spammer's message (and probably blacklisted them).

If Eligius blacklists them too, this spammer's business may fail.
(These 1 satoshi transactions are non-standard and the spammer has to submit
them directly  to a pool that accepts them, which is only Eligius.)
legendary
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September 28, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
#10
I don't mind at least I get free bitcoin. If I don't like the spam, I could easily ignore it. Some people can get pissed by this message, blockchain could offer such option to filter spam for them.
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