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Topic: Bloomberg: “Bitcoin will approach record high of about $20,000 this year” - page 2. (Read 688 times)

legendary
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Tether volume, market cap,... is like 90% because of altcoins and 10% because of bitcoin and that is if i am generous since nowadays about 2-3% of Tether is actually coming from bitcoin trading.

It's rather difficult to say given how much fake volume there is on altcoin exchanges. There is a huge OTC Tether market in China which draws on BTCUSDT liquidity at Huobi, Binance, and Okex. Since 2018, downside BTC volatility drove the Chinese market away from BTC and towards USDT. Nothing to do with altcoins, which are plagued by fake volume on exchanges:

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Chinese grey-market importers used to rely on bitcoin before the 2018 bear market, another OTC dealer, Roman Dobrynin, told CoinDesk. As the price was ever-growing, merchants and the intermediaries helping them buy crypto could make some extra money along the way.

But since the beginning of 2018, hoping that your bitcoin will still be worth the same or more at the end of the transfer became too risky.

“As the price was going down, tether became much more convenient to use,” said Dobrynin. “China is totally reliant on USDT, they trust in it a lot, plus it’s very liquid.” His own clients are mostly Chinese, and they usually find him by word of mouth, connecting via Telegram.

https://www.coindesk.com/tether-usdt-russia-china-importers

Like Bloomberg, I see the massive expansion of Tether as very bullish. Once BTC emerges into a long term bull market (outside of this 2018-2020 range) we could see OTC Tether traders flood back into BTC, the same way they started leaving BTC in 2018.
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It is always the same music, creating more hype will make the price increase and one of the best things is to shoot predictions of record highs... I really hope we'll have a record high this year, but I have learnt that with BTC you never know and analysis and predictions are just that, reality is another thing...
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Everyone loves to hear how bitcoin will go up like crazy, plus whenever bloomberg writes about bitcoin they are very bullish as well.
I understand that they are a financial company as well but it makes me question if this is more about media side of the deal.

Who writes this, the person who is more involved in the media side that they want more and more clicks so they could make more money from the banner ads? Or is it the person who is working on the financial part of the bloomberg company that seen how awesome bitcoin is?

Because if it is the second one, at least we can be sure that it is simply a person who is bullish on bitcoin, there are millions of people who are bullish on bitcoin. However if it is the first and it is just media, I think they are writing about "AWESOME BITCOIN!!!" type of deal because they want you to share it everywhere bitcoin related and click it so they could make money.
legendary
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My first thought: this isn't actually a Bloomberg analyst though, rather, an analyst speaking on a Bloomberg show. But reading the thing itself, it does appear to be a Bloomberg opinion -- a bit unusual but okay, cool.

... at the same time there is a lot of negativity going on that keeps postponing the start of the rally and lengthens the accumulation phase.

I, for one, don't mind all the negativity. I'm far, far from my personal stack target, so I would really like a much longer time to accumulate. I would be actually cursing if we get ATH this year as I won't be able to maximise it, be a real waste, especially now am having to dig into reserves during this crappy covid time!

Here's to another year of price trolling;)
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I realize that everything has a high possibility including the price of Bitcoin which will break $ 20k..  this is not the first time an analyst has predicted the price of Bitcoin even though most of their predictions have been missed.  seeing from the Bitcoin halving that went well a few weeks ago, I think ATH Bitcoin this year (until the end of 2020) is in the range of $ 16-17k..  

Talking about Tether, to be honest Tether's position surprised me, how can a stable coin pass through XRP.  this makes me think "maybe in the future Tether has a chance to become the first cryptocurrency to be adopted en masse"..
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Well, it's not a surprise to be honest. Any donkey who knows about technical analysis can't ignore the historical charts AND the current trends of Bitcoin markets. And if we look at it, it's actually quite clear that 20k is possible. But, so is 1k. Back in 2018 I thought 2020 was the earliest we would get back to ATH but now that we're here, I think we definitely have to wait for 2021 at earliest!
legendary
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i don't think it is possible to predict when the next big rally which will include reaching and surpassing the previous ATH, will start happening. of course there is a good chance that we see the start of it this year since we have had more than enough undervalued bitcoin with a prolonged accumulation but at the same time there is a lot of negativity going on that keeps postponing the start of the rally and lengthens the accumulation phase.

PS. Tether volume, market cap,... is like 90% because of altcoins and 10% because of bitcoin and that is if i am generous since nowadays about 2-3% of Tether is actually coming from bitcoin trading. and i think it will reach second and even first place (meaning above bitcoin) during the next rally as the next altcoin shitshow pumps and then their dumps begin and become much bigger than 2017 and as more exchanges and banks start putting restrictions and KYC on their users.
but all of that is off-topic in bitcoin speculation!
legendary
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Bloomberg screaming $20k is like Tom Lee predicting moon: they both jinx it.

Isn't CNBC the guaranteed touch of death? I seem to remember someone doing CNBC TA and their bullish calls were 95% wrong which is seriously impressive. You could make a fortune just trading the direct opposite of their proclamations.
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I've been closely following posts by Bloomberg, as it may outperform ETH given its market cap, although I see it a bit difficult, chances are, everything in Crypto can happen, but the fact that it's a stablecoin makes it Some interests are leaning on some investors who support blockchain.
legendary
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Bloomberg screaming $20k is like Tom Lee predicting moon: they both jinx it.

Tom Lee was screaming $20K or $25K immediately after the 2017 bubble popped, and for like a year afterwards.

Bloomberg waited until after a 2.5-year accumulation cycle happened to predict $20K or $28K. Much more reasonable. In the end, I think all of these targets are way too low, but in terms of market cycles, Bloomberg is much closer to the mark.

I partly think Tom Lee was dumping his (Fundstrat's) bags on retail while making those awful predictions back in 2018.
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Bloomberg screaming $20k is like Tom Lee predicting moon: they both jinx it. They claim these figures as if they have something similar to a crystal ball that could tell the future. With the current situation of the world at hand, I doubt we will be seeing more than $15k tops in 2020. The global economy is recovering, but at a very slow rate, and I don't think a lot of people would actually risk money on volatile assets during these times unless someone actually starts buying huge amounts to effectively move the price upward. Bloomberg is a known bitcoin bull, but this is just too much for 2020, IMO.

As for them stating that "something needs to go really wrong for Bitcoin not to increase value" is overestimating the power of bitcoin's volatility. There are times when there's nothing happening but the price suddenly just drops a significant amount, and there are times when the prices goes insanely high without any catalyst or any sane reason that could explain it.
legendary
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It was totally possible if there was no pandemic, price would have been around 8-9 thousand dollars at least right before the halving and with the increase it would have reached to $15k or so levels

In no known universe would it have hit 15k. That would've been a totally illogical move that came out of nowhere.

Not exactly. In February the market was in a strong mid term bull market, and was testing the $10.5K resistance established last year. Had it broken above (breaking the downtrend from June 2019 to present) $15K would have been a matter of time. Looking at past bull markets (like the first half of 2019 for instance) BTC could have realized those gains very quickly.

The BTC market can be quite illogical anyway. Just like the stock market, its price moves really don't depend on fundamentals.
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It was totally possible if there was no pandemic, price would have been around 8-9 thousand dollars at least right before the halving and with the increase it would have reached to $15k or so levels and after the halving it would take some time but eventually because miners were getting less reward they would sell less coins as well and the price would have gone to $20k. But, since pandemic happened and not that much money left in the markets and price went down and only recovered for the halving, I doubt $20k will happen in next 7 months.

In no known universe would it have hit 15k. That would've been a totally illogical move that came out of nowhere.

The big arse drop may well have been pandemic related as the rest of the world ran around screaming, other than that prices have been what I was expecting. The behaviour is in line with the last halving when not much happened.

A halving takes time to digest and I didn't expect a return to 20k this year with or without diseases running riot.

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Let's be honest with each other, Bloomberg has always been very very bullish on Bitcoin (I suspect they have a ton of it but they are actually a software company at heart) but the pandemic really caused the drop to be right at the worst possible time so I do not think we are going to see $20k anymore.

It was totally possible if there was no pandemic, price would have been around 8-9 thousand dollars at least right before the halving and with the increase it would have reached to $15k or so levels and after the halving it would take some time but eventually because miners were getting less reward they would sell less coins as well and the price would have gone to $20k. But, since pandemic happened and not that much money left in the markets and price went down and only recovered for the halving, I doubt $20k will happen in next 7 months.
legendary
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The economic indicators are somewhat positive.

The economic damage hasn't even started to warm up. Economies have been in suspended animation. Only now when reality is eased back in is when it'll start to bite. A lot of businesses will have no clients to go back to. A lot of employees won't have a job to go back to.

I had no particular truck with the idea of Bitcoin, or any high risk asset, thriving when the world is going down the bog. But the flush hasn't really started yet so we still don't really know how anything will pan out.
legendary
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This would be logical if the report spoke about BTC & pandemic, or before the announcement of Covid-19 as a pandemic, we had no historical data or models that illustrate how digital currencies will perform under these health conditions.

The situation has now changed, the economy is beginning to absorb, and the concerns of the code have begun to diminish, which means a recovery for all economic sectors, and therefore there is no need to risk very volatile assets.

If countries succeed in opening their economy quickly during this month, it is very difficult to see highs above 15,000 this year.
Here's the Dow Jones Index:


The economic indicators are somewhat positive.
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We tend not to get what we expect.
Ouep, I prefer to hodl my coins until I open my eyes one day to see the bitcoin price reaching ATH, just like unexpected 2018 ones. In fact with bitcoin I already got more than what I expected, everything else is a bonus Smiley
Well 2020 is the shittiest year by far for most people in this world, I do not expect much from it..
legendary
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get ready because some people believe that the price will reach $100,000 next year, I keep thinking that if that is even possible then I could consider going to rob some bank and take the money to buy bitcoin  Grin

The $100,000 by the end of next year expectation has been repeated so often it's starting to feel like fact already. That type of certainty tends to make me feel uneasy.

My guess is that it fails to reach that by a large enough factor to make everyone feel like total dickheads, or overshoots it to a truly hair raising extent. We tend not to get what we expect.
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Bloomberg making a $20k prediction?

$5k confirmed. Time to sell.

when the price drops we see price forecasts of $5000, but at this moment it is time to see exaggerated forecasts

I for one do not expect it to get anywhere near 20 big ones this year. Fine with me if it does.

if the price were to break $ 13,000 I could dream of at least $ 17,000 for this year, but really dreaming of $20,000 for this year was too much.

They're all interchangeable. One coin can overtake any other coin in top ranks and its no surprising thing even thinking that
BCH would hit up no. 2.  Tongue

those coins you mentioned had a bomb right away, while the case of Mr. Tether was gradually rising, first it was below the Top 8 and today it is in the Top 3 and it seems to me that it still has the potential to rise a lot e and definitely BCH will not reach second place, on the contrary BCH is falling to the last places

New ATH - Very likely in 2021
In 2020 - Debatable!

get ready because some people believe that the price will reach $100,000 next year, I keep thinking that if that is even possible then I could consider going to rob some bank and take the money to buy bitcoin  Grin
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Bloomberg making a $20k prediction?

$5k confirmed. Time to sell.
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