Blue card to be introduced in football.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on February 17, 2024, 03:53:22 AM

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So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.

The new innovation will introduce a new tactics for some technical coaches to really exploit. They may cook up a strange strategy different from what these regular gamblers and coaches know. Coaches like Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and others may find ways to make the new addition to the sport favor them. Many things are really changing and developing into something else from what they were, I will not be surprised if the number of players in each team is increased by one player.

I would have suggested that they don't even try to introduce something new other than the one we've been used to already, there may be different discrepancies in their order of making decisions to judge towards the use of the blue card over the yellow or red card, but if there's going to be a full engagement on how to adopt and use this new approach over each countries, and that they are ready to take the responsibility of orientating the football sections of each countries, make a guidelines that could support the adoption and do a follow-up, this may not bring about diversification in judging for an either blue, red or yellow card.

Life involves and things change, innovations coming up and development is constant, so for that, we can not say entirely how impossible it could be to judge in the case of awarding a blue card to players and how different countries will judge that new feature, but for sure from what we have read, we can say that blue card will be a cool off timing for a player during the match, let say when they commit that fowl play their are to wait for 10 minutes before being allowed to continue playing during the match.

So for that, I may not support the idea of not entertaining new developments and additions to the already football features that we have, and for sure this new rule will make football more better than we think so let us remain positive, about this whole thing and look forward to seeing a better side in football when it fully implemented in International football.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on February 17, 2024, 06:17:57 AM

I think the blue card is bullshit, just as I think VAR is bullshit or I won't like it if they implement AI to define what a match referee should validate or not.
All healthy discussions about the past in sports involve human error, we will lose this essence with everything becoming "robotized"

Eh, I don't think VAR is as bad as this one. You could say the implementation sucks but the idea is to help the referee to judge better, so you don't have to remove it if the referee is the one who makes terrible calls despite VAR giving them good inputs. An off-side line technology etc also helps a lot, it helps both teams anyway. I don't think I'll leave human error as part of the game if it means my team will concede a handball goal, or something stupid like an offside go because the linean failed to draw the line. If that's fine for you, maybe you'll see how bitter it is if your team fails to win the league because of a stupid decision that can get overturned by goal-line technology like that.

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There is these news going round about blue card sin-bins that is said to be introduced as one of the rules in football.
Basically the whole idea of this blue card sin-bins is to punish players that have committed foul against another player, so when the referee shows you blue card, you are to go outside and stay for 10 minutes while the game will still be going on, you will remain there for 10 minutes then you come back afterwards and continue with the game, however this does not take the place of yellow card and the red card.

Locally in my country Nigeria we used to do this for small goal post that is normally called monkey post, if a player tackles his opponent wrongly, we used to tell the prayer to go out and stay for some minutes and then come back, because it's most times a five aside game, so we don't usually use cards. but seeing these rules wanting to be introduced on the international scene surprises me.

So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/08/blue-cards-to-be-introduced-for-football-sin-bins/

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like this. When people played without offsides and when they were invented, people who didn’t like it said that it was nonsense and football was losing quality because of it. I don’t know about the blue card, as for me it is more appropriate in mini-football or in hockey, where the game is 5 on 5. Now, in the failures of football, I personally am satisfied with everything and I would not change anything. But the world is changing and football is changing with it, anything can happen

This is true, the world changes and there is nothing we can do. I think the blue card is bullshit, just as I think VAR is bullshit or I won't like it if they implement AI to define what a match referee should validate or not.

All healthy discussions about the past in sports involve human error, we will lose this essence with everything becoming "robotized"

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

There is these news going round about blue card sin-bins that is said to be introduced as one of the rules in football.
Basically the whole idea of this blue card sin-bins is to punish players that have committed foul against another player, so when the referee shows you blue card, you are to go outside and stay for 10 minutes while the game will still be going on, you will remain there for 10 minutes then you come back afterwards and continue with the game, however this does not take the place of yellow card and the red card.

Locally in my country Nigeria we used to do this for small goal post that is normally called monkey post, if a player tackles his opponent wrongly, we used to tell the prayer to go out and stay for some minutes and then come back, because it's most times a five aside game, so we don't usually use cards. but seeing these rules wanting to be introduced on the international scene surprises me.

So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/08/blue-cards-to-be-introduced-for-football-sin-bins/

I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like this. When people played without offsides and when they were invented, people who didn’t like it said that it was nonsense and football was losing quality because of it. I don’t know about the blue card, as for me it is more appropriate in mini-football or in hockey, where the game is 5 on 5. Now, in the failures of football, I personally am satisfied with everything and I would not change anything. But the world is changing and football is changing with it, anything can happen

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So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.

The new innovation will introduce a new tactics for some technical coaches to really exploit. They may cook up a strange strategy different from what these regular gamblers and coaches know. Coaches like Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and others may find ways to make the new addition to the sport favor them. Many things are really changing and developing into something else from what they were, I will not be surprised if the number of players in each team is increased by one player.

I would have suggested that they don't even try to introduce something new other than the one we've been used to already, there may be different discrepancies in their order of making decisions to judge towards the use of the blue card over the yellow or red card, but if there's going to be a full engagement on how to adopt and use this new approach over each countries, and that they are ready to take the responsibility of orientating the football sections of each countries, make a guidelines that could support the adoption and do a follow up, this may not bring about diversification in judging for either blue, red or yellow card.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

There is these news going round about blue card sin-bins that is said to be introduced as one of the rules in football.
Basically the whole idea of this blue card sin-bins is to punish players that have committed foul against another player, so when the referee shows you blue card, you are to go outside and stay for 10 minutes while the game will still be going on, you will remain there for 10 minutes then you come back afterwards and continue with the game, however this does not take the place of yellow card and the red card.

Locally in my country Nigeria we used to do this for small goal post that is normally called monkey post, if a player tackles his opponent wrongly, we used to tell the prayer to go out and stay for some minutes and then come back, because it's most times a five aside game, so we don't usually use cards. but seeing these rules wanting to be introduced on the international scene surprises me.

So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/08/blue-cards-to-be-introduced-for-football-sin-bins/

First time I am hearing that the blue card will be finally introduced to football. This is definitely going to change the game a lot in the future. Red cards are not that common, in most games it's 11 players vs 11. Depending now how often the blue card is going to come into play the teams will have to adapt a lot. If this card is being used as regularly as yellow cards than this will be huge. Being down one player for 10 minutes can change everything. It depends a bit which player it is, but if your star striker sits on the bench then there won't be a lot of pressure on the enemy goal for a while. If it's your main defender, then there will be a big whole in your defense and you will likely fall behind. As long as all leagues adopt the card at the same time it will be fair for everybody and teams should adapt quickly. I am going to look forward to the world cup with a blue card.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

There is these news going round about blue card sin-bins that is said to be introduced as one of the rules in football.
Basically the whole idea of this blue card sin-bins is to punish players that have committed foul against another player, so when the referee shows you blue card, you are to go outside and stay for 10 minutes while the game will still be going on, you will remain there for 10 minutes then you come back afterwards and continue with the game, however this does not take the place of yellow card and the red card.

Locally in my country Nigeria we used to do this for small goal post that is normally called monkey post, if a player tackles his opponent wrongly, we used to tell the prayer to go out and stay for some minutes and then come back, because it's most times a five aside game, so we don't usually use cards. but seeing these rules wanting to be introduced on the international scene surprises me.

So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/08/blue-cards-to-be-introduced-for-football-sin-bins/

Lol, been doing this since ages in Nigeria, looks like we're now teaching the masters how its really done. I have my reservations on the substandard nature of that practice. I really don't vote for it to be introduced in a professional setting. It will greatly reduce the quality of the game as players will now be relaxed while fouling others bearing in mind that they will only stay outside for some time.

Then referees might take that opportunity to favor some teams over another, like sending up to four players out for some time to the advantage of others. It will really bring so much corruption to the game we love so much and I don't feel too good about it.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 08, 2024, 12:35:53 PM

I don’t like the idea, I think it’s stupid. They should just leave the game as it is, we don’t need anything like this coming in.

Hopefully it doesn’t gather much backing and gets thrown out before they try to implement it into elite level mens football.

I also subscribe with you that it should be thrown out. They don't need to make cluster of rules to football and change the face of the game. Rules are meant to take place where there is a lacuna and in this case there is no lacuna, the yellow card and red card have taken that space already and no need for such modifications and moreover it is going to give the referee much job of controlling the match with the plenty of rules he has in his hands to control. If this is added plus VAR that is already having some sort of error, it will make their work cumbersome. For instance, if a referee issues a blue card to three players within the 10 minutes, it means he has to be shuttling between his watch and checking for the next 10 minutes to allow a player in and another one and the other one. You already see the job bursting his head and errors with inefficiency will start coming in.

So I simply don't subscribe to this and I don't see any need or reason for it to have its way inside the noble game of football.

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1. If a player cools down for ten minutes,

Slight point with literally cooling down a player, they would no longer be fully ready to play and may more likely strain a ligament then normal play. I presume the blue card doesnt prevent them staying ready and active to rejoin play without disadvantage at that time, has to be that way or it will be promoting injury inadvertently.
1 player missing is a big disadvantage also depending who it is and how easily they can be covered. However its less then 10% of the team, its not too harsh to completely alter the game. Its just enough to send a strong discouragement to not repeat the problem behavior.

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It's interesting to see how this new card will affect the game. It may change the dynamics of the game, however, it will likely depend on how well the referees implement this. Some may not agree about this, and some may see it as an effective way to discipline or improve player's behavior and safety.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on February 09, 2024, 07:15:12 AM

This is going to really change the game and for me I don't really understand the main reason why this blue card of a thing. What kind of foul should be considered as being worthy of blue card? With so much rules coming in lately in football there is every possibility that the joy that football brings is going to diminish. This is a stupid idea and should be brush out.

At first, I thought it will change the game for good but as I read further it turns out it was the opposite. The OP already gave some info about it but you can always research it further and maybe see a video that demonstrates it, if that is much easier for you to understand. Maybe they think this blue card is a must addition because they are more experts than us. So, just learn how to deal with it. If not, you are always welcome to switch on other sports but I'm sure some of them have also changed.

It's inevitable because it can mostly enhance the experience of the players and as well as the audience. This was not the first addition actually in football but there is also white card before if I'm not mistaken. It also shocked the public but they're used to it now.

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Quote from: notblox1 on February 09, 2024, 06:19:12 PM

Having break for 10 minute can be good for player to cool down and there is a chance he is going to be better when he returns to match.
Having two blue cards means player will get red card, but what happens if player gets one blue and one yellow card? Grin

Refs are going to have such a hard time adjusting to this new rule if it happens.

10 minute cooldown has pros and cons:
1. If a player cools down for ten minutes, the team will play with 10 players instead of 11 for two minutes, that's a significant disadvantage.
2. if a player cools down for ten minutes, he will come rested and the team will have an advantage over the opposite team.

There might be moments for certain teams and certain players where it will be good to break the rule and get a blue card. It's a terrible idea and I hope FIFA/UEFA will not let it happen.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on February 09, 2024, 06:30:44 PM

Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.

The new innovation will introduce a new tactics for some technical coaches to really exploit. They may cook up a strange strategy different from what these regular gamblers and coaches know. Coaches like Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and others may find ways to make the new addition to the sport favor them. Many things are really changing and developing into something else from what they were, I will not be surprised if the number of players in each team is increased by one player.

Well I will not be surprised at all if that is added to football because the rate at which things is changing is definitely at a high rate and they don't intend stopping anytime soon, well change is constant and it's bound to happen eventually but I just hope that FIFA or whoever those or create the rules doesn't come up with something crazy that will definitely take away the thrills in football because that will definitely have a negative toll on the economic benefits of football to the world.

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Now the blue card, in the future? green? I think it would be better if football change to UNO. I also heard that blue cards can also accumulate into red cards with the following composition: 1. Yellow + Blue = Red | 2. Blue + Blue = Red. It's real?

Yes that is correct and to answer your other question, a green card does exist and it ever been used in the conica world football cup (non FIFA affiliated).
A green card is almost the same as a red card and the difference is, after the ref sent the player from the pitch - the team able to substitute that player with note that team have not used all of their substitutes.
Also the player who got the green card is not excluded from the next match.

Whatever it is, the point is that this latest change makes football no longer fun, and maybe we'll see even stranger changes than the current one in the future. I can't imagine what would happen to teams that have a high level of argumentation with this blue card, maybe they will play with a few players in each match, for example Atletico Madrid which tends to play rough.

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Instead of adding new punishment card, would not it be better to add one more ref? It will be double effectice to monitor players and the game. If they want to add time penalties like in ice hockey, then why not take 2-3 referee system from hockey? One main ref and two or one helper. I think it would be much more helpful in addition to var.

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Blue card, this is new rule innovation issued by IFAB but it seems that FIFA rejects the blue card rule in big competitions or prestigious competitions so that if this had been made official for football then only small competitions would have used it.
But this is strange because the blue card issued by the referee and given to the player will result in penalty for the player leaving the field within few minutes and when the player has received 2 blue cards then he will be given red card, this is really strange rule.
There are already yellow cards and red cards which have clearly become one of the rewards for every player who breaks the rules and when new rules such as blue cards occur, it is certain that there will be differences of opinion and disputes because this may be rejected by several parties.

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So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/02/08/blue-cards-to-be-introduced-for-football-sin-bins/

I honestly don't really like this new rule because it can change the style of playing football which has been patented for long time, how could it not be because players who get blue card have to leave the field and be in special place which is said to be place for washing away their sins.
This doesn't make sense and rules like this are actually not appropriate to really apply in football.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

There is these news going round about blue card sin-bins that is said to be introduced as one of the rules in football.
Basically the whole idea of this blue card sin-bins is to punish players that have committed foul against another player, so when the referee shows you blue card, you are to go outside and stay for 10 minutes while the game will still be going on, you will remain there for 10 minutes then you come back afterwards and continue with the game, however this does not take the place of yellow card and the red card.

I also disagree with this and my argument is super simple:
When should the referee issue a blue or yellow card?

Today there is already some controversy about the application of the red card in plays where the referee only applied the yellow card.
There are many more situations in which a yellow card should have been issued but the referee preferred to just issue a warning.

So, introducing yet another card will only create more controversy instead of helping.
In other sports, temporary punishment works very well, such as ice hockey, but the rules in general are completely different.

Football already has enough rules and resources for punishment, the problem is that football referees earn very little due to the importance that exists in football and as a consequence we have some terrible people conducting important games.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

So guys how do you see this new intended innovation, is it going to change the face of football across the world, let's have your opinion.

The new innovation will introduce a new tactics for some technical coaches to really exploit. They may cook up a strange strategy different from what these regular gamblers and coaches know. Coaches like Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and others may find ways to make the new addition to the sport favor them. Many things are really changing and developing into something else from what they were, I will not be surprised if the number of players in each team is increased by one player.

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on February 08, 2024, 12:32:49 PM

There is these news going round about blue card sin-bins that is said to be introduced as one of the rules in football.
Basically the whole idea of this blue card sin-bins is to punish players that have committed foul against another player, so when the referee shows you blue card, you are to go outside and stay for 10 minutes while the game will still be going on, you will remain there for 10 minutes then you come back afterwards and continue with the game, however this does not take the place of yellow card and the red card.

This is such a stupid idea and it reminds me on rules they have in waterpolo Tongue

Having break for 10 minute can be good for player to cool down and there is a chance he is going to be better when he returns to match.
Having two blue cards means player will get red card, but what happens if player gets one blue and one yellow card? Grin

Refs are going to have such a hard time adjusting to this new rule if it happens.

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Rough criticism would be it represents an Americanization of the game with sinbin type send offs that only count for a minute and then all is forgiven. However that wouldnt deter the change especially I feel they are trying to capture that audience which is already watching sports with this type of send off and make the whole big card send off less of a permanent thing and with more warnings before players are excluded from future games.
The teams themselves probably would appreciate this kind of forewarning to a full send off because of the giant sums involved now with some players costing giant amounts exclusion from the game can seriously impact the layout through rash behavior. My guess is they are going to go ahead with this, perhaps rescind later if no improvement but theres reasons its going in.

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