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fluffypony

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Quote from: usagi on June 03, 2014, 09:32:09 AM

Quote from: ondratra on June 03, 2014, 08:12:35 AM

Quote from: ondratra on June 02, 2014, 10:03:21 AM

Usagi I have a question for you - cause I got confused by this shoutout.

You are saying you had backups on other servers maintained by other provider. Tell me in short what goes wrong then? Why you can't recover data from this backup???

My question is still unanswered. Usagi can you answer for me?

I mean no offense - just rly want to know the answer.

Sorry, I don't know. I was told they're working on it.

I had it set up on cron. Presumably if I had the server address, username and password (or whatever) in the cron file, I could restore the backups myself. Maybe I'll fire off another e-mail to the team and ask them about it.

So just to be clear...you have remote, regular, offsite backups, but you have no idea how to login to the service if you needed to, I dunno, restore the backup? And you don't know who the provider is? (To clarify that last question: I can't tell if "the team" means your imaginary team of IT specialists or the team at the remote backup provider, but I would assume that if you had working backups and you know who you were paying every month to store them, you would simply pick up the phone and say "hello LiveDrive, I seem to have lost my system, and I'd like to know how to get at my backups")

Were those backups on space provided by BitVPS, which is why you're struggling to get hold of them?

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Quote from: usagi on June 03, 2014, 08:07:17 AM

Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:27:06 AM

also why on gods earth would anyone store a wallet on a VPS ? You aren't familiar with what happens ?

Because it was a KVM i.e. not shared, non-production system which was not being developed or used.

So what you're saying is that the wallet wasn't in use or required at all, and could safely be stored on your computer with a remote encrypted backup (even DropBox would work for this) and, for good measure, on a bunch of flash drives chucked in the safe?

usagi

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Quote from: ondratra on June 03, 2014, 08:12:35 AM

Quote from: ondratra on June 02, 2014, 10:03:21 AM

My question is still unanswered. Usagi can you answer for me?

I mean no offense - just rly want to know the answer.

ondratra

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Quote from: ondratra on June 02, 2014, 10:03:21 AM

My question is still unanswered. Usagi can you answer for me?

I mean no offense - just rly want to know the answer.

usagi

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Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:27:06 AM

usagi you are a lying scamming piece of crap. You said post in your thread if you had guts, I did and you deleted both my posts

Yeah but you're a troll. You posted whiney garbage about how much you hate me. Congratulations -- nobody cares.

Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:27:06 AM

You ask people if they know about management and authority delegation... you fucking idiot.
what does that have to do with you not being able to back something up ?

So let me get this straight. Despite being completely aware we didn't lose anything except what amounts to the price of a new backup system (because we bought it) you want to fly off the handle and call me a fucking idiot? Wow, it must be nice to be anonymous.

Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:27:06 AM

also why on gods earth would anyone store a wallet on a VPS ? You aren't familiar with what happens ?

Because it was a KVM i.e. not shared, non-production system which was not being developed or used.

You know this, yet you are still an asshole. Hmm. Interesting.

Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:27:06 AM

You are a nothing. a nobody. you have basic skills in X Y and Z but unfortunately you do not know what you are talking about. You specialize in nothing. You a sad little

Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:27:06 AM

you really are a scammy moron arent you. you asked people to invest in your secret business. .you can't secure your own wallet but yet want people to invest in your secret business. get a grip.

what an ass tard

No, I did not ask people to invest in my "secret business"; I offered to tell people about it. I don't need your money, and frankly, you (especially you in particular) have no skills I need for the project. But sure, if you'd like to know more, send me a PM. Just don't be such a fucking tard. It's embarrasing.

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nicely spotted, my mistake.

Quote from: Puppet on June 03, 2014, 04:32:47 AM

Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:29:30 AM

I am calling you an incompetent scammer.

Im not sure how you measure competence of a scammer, but if you measure it by success, Usagi is a competent scammer.

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Quote from: Sydboy on June 03, 2014, 02:29:30 AM

I am calling you an incompetent scammer.

Im not sure how you measure competence of a scammer, but if you measure it by success, Usagi is a competent scammer.

jonsi

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Now I understand. Usagi is simply delusional. He lives in his own reality. Feel sorry for him but mostly for the people that intrusted their money. Usagi, please seek specialized help.

Sydboy

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oh and so their is no miscommunications. I am calling you an incompetent scammer.
go fix your japanese book, or your wallet or whatever your flavour of the week is.

join goat and fuck off.

Sydboy

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usagi you are a lying scamming piece of crap. You said post in your thread if you had guts, I did and you deleted both my posts

1)

I read what you wrote in the unmoderated thread.

You ask people if they know about management and authority delegation... you fucking idiot.
what does that have to do with you not being able to back something up ?
also why on gods earth would anyone store a wallet on a VPS ? You aren't familiar with what happens ?
You are a nothing. a nobody. you have basic skills in X Y and Z but unfortunately you do not know what you are talking about. You specialize in nothing. You a sad little person who jumps from project to project, never actually completing anything.

You made a thread here and what did you expect ? people would congradulate you for doing everything wrong ?

To sum up, you are basically goat.

keep reading your "how to make a web wallet book" you pathetic tool.

2)
lol secret project x
what a tool

yeah invest in the secret project. greaaat idea !!
give him all your money. maybe the next failure could be due to some rats chewing on the cables ??

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you really are a scammy moron arent you. you asked people to invest in your secret business. .you can't secure your own wallet but yet want people to invest in your secret business. get a grip.

what an ass tard

GeoRW

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Trust No One

I wonder how can anyone still trust this Usagi person. He lost/scammed so much of people's bitcoins in the past and lied all the time, that it is really ridiculous. BTW, he's deleting his own posts and whole threads quite often. He's even managed to remove quoted posts of other forum members. Keep away from him.

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Usagi is enjoying his witch hunt, I can see. He crafted a whole 'Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative EXPOSED' thread and then deleted it when I responded in a rational manner.

It seems that deleting posts and threads is his MO.

EDIT: Looks like he changed the title of the thread, but I quoted him in the thread, so his original words are still there.

I thank all of your for bringing attention to his lack of judgment and generally threatening demeanor; hopefully these comments in the past week will serve to deter future investors from entrusting him with funds. I'm done with him.

Quote from: twentyseventy on June 02, 2014, 06:14:18 PM

Quote from: usagi on June 02, 2014, 06:07:14 PM

I feel it is important to notify the community that twentyseventy, the owner of "[Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD)", is a morally depraved, back-stabbing troll.

I had worked with twentyseventy on the ian bakewell case, IIRC, but in recent days he has decided to jump on a sort of troll bandwagon that I am a "known criminal", who has "absconded" with customer's bitcoins.

This kind of competition is not friendly. It is wrong. Look, I know we're all out for investor dollars, sure. But I want to believe that this is a fair society and that people like twentyseventy would not resort to such bs tactics. Because that is how I was raised.

I guess I was wrong.

In a post designed to look like one of my own news releases, he ambushes readers with the following:

Quote from: twentyseventy on May 30, 2014, 01:19:39 AM

I am sick and tired of scammers hiding themselves under the guise of moderated posts. For every moderated thread that is posted here, I will post an unmoderated version.
I have no ulterior motive except to provide an uncensored thread for anyone to discuss any thread that is moderated here.
My security does not operate under a moderated thread and I do not expect or think it should be allowed for anyone else to do so.
Usagi has deleted many posts critical of him, so I hope that this thread can be a place where people can be openly critical without the threat of deletion.

As his evidence that I am a "scammer" who is "hiding" he quotes a news release post I made. He makes much noise of the "threat of deletion" but I have left many posts critical of me on that thread. I am not trying to suppress valid opinion. I am trying to supress a type of expression which is designed not to communicate (even to communicate frustration or displeasure) but to communicate baseless hatred and lies.

The second reason I am making this post is I will not stand for being subject to his belief model that self-moderated threads are a bad idea. They exist precisely to stop trolls from taking over threads. If you doubt this is not a sport for trolls, look at usenet which has been utterly destroyed by groups of organized trolls.

Discussion boards are all that's left for these people. Beware.

As I said earlier, Ad Hominem attacks don't bother me; you can call me what you like. I don't recall any Ian Bakewell 'case', I'm nearly positive believe that that was before my time here. Do you have any contact from me? Emails, PMs, etc? I think that you genuinely have me confused with someone else in that regard.

You'll note that I never called you a scammer, you merely inferred it. My issue, as I said, is mostly with your censorship.

I appreciate that fact that this is a not a moderated thread; I suppose that my actions are somewhat vindicated in this regard. However, the title is misleading, as this thread is about me and not BDD. I've requested that this be moved to Scam Accusations, where I believe that it belongs.

EDIT: The thread title has been changed to add 'exposed', so that it's not a word-for-word copy of the BDD thread.

Double EDIT: Usgai has now changed the title of the thread from its original content, but clearly you can see here his original text in this quote.

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Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 05:35:19 PM

Quote from: usagi on June 02, 2014, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 07:22:31 AM

It's ok, usagi, no need for a response. You have "educated" people enough. All will be fine.

You're right, I have.

Anyone who reads this thread will instantly realize it is of no value.

Yes, you are right. I can see that by the way that hero members calling you a "lying sack of shit".
And by the way, they are right Wink

No they aren't. Wink

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Quote from: usagi on June 02, 2014, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 07:22:31 AM

It's ok, usagi, no need for a response. You have "educated" people enough. All will be fine.

You're right, I have.

Anyone who reads this thread will instantly realize it is of no value.

Yes, you are right. I can see that by the way that hero members calling you a "lying sack of shit".
And by the way, they are right Wink

usagi

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Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 07:22:31 AM

It's ok, usagi, no need for a response. You have "educated" people enough. All will be fine.

You're right, I have.

Anyone who reads this thread will instantly realize it is of no value.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Forum

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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Baffled by OP answers. Fluffypony post says it all.

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Quote from: usagi on June 02, 2014, 05:06:18 AM

If you don't have the guts to post in the official BMF thread, then you are admitting you have nothing except rumor and innuendo. I have demonstrated I will let people have their fair say in my thread.

Quote from: ?? on ??

You absolutely should be culpable, I am shocked that you think you are not. Your attitude of not assuming you have done anything wrong has prompted me to speak out.

Firstly: this is not "advanced Bitcoin techniques that require an in-depth knowledge of C++", this is "Bitcoin 101 - stuff we tell all the n00bs".

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Backingup_your_wallet#Backing_up_your_wallet_files

I have nothing to do with BFM (I don't even know what it is), but the thread title caught my attention. I agree with what fluffypony has stated, these mistakes are noob status and it concerns me that you've been working on a web wallet but haven't taken even the most basic precautions to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

You lying sack of shit.

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Quote from: usagi on June 02, 2014, 07:07:26 AM

Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 06:51:37 AM

Quote from: usagi on June 02, 2014, 05:06:18 AM

Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 04:38:50 AM

I'm astonished of usagi response: calling everyone a troll, including lots of Sr Members. Usagi fu..ed up and now he sais: "we are laughint at you". Who is "we"?
NO, Usagi, you are wrong AGAIN! WE are laughing at you, but we pity the people whose money you lost.

Let me educate you because you seem like an honest gentleman.

This is a troll thread. Everyone, including you, seems to understand that the rule is "don't post in the official BMF thread" because usagi is not interested in responding to bullshit accusations. What do you want me to do, go back in time? Seriously, tell me -- what do you want me to do? Oh, and do it in the official thread.

If you don't have the guts to post in the official BMF thread, then you are admitting you have nothing except rumor and innuendo. I have demonstrated I will let people have their fair say in my thread.

You got it all wrong. I don't want you to go back in time and it's not even about loosing access to that wallet. It's about your atitude about the whole thing.

If you want me to care, post on the BMF thread. I won't respond to trolls here.

I think the notion of trolling eludes you. People have been criticising your recklessness, incompetence, lack of judgement, etc... via logic argumentation.

trolling would be something more like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7082550

Edit: as well as this

Quote from: E.Sam on June 02, 2014, 09:45:22 AM

trolling would be something more like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7082550

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Quote from: jonsi on June 02, 2014, 07:22:31 AM

It's ok, usagi, no need for a response. You have "educated" people enough. All will be fine.

I think what we're observing here is our very own mini version of the Streisand Effect.