Topic: Bo you protect your anonymity? - page 2. (Read 2169 times)
Really no need to ever mix coins...this thread was started by someone advertising a bitmixing service, seems like a clear agenda to me to scare people into thinking there is some kind od necessity in doing such a thing.
I definitely use a mixer to get fresh coins. I use it only when I want to send coins to my cold wallet. So I surely know no one knows what my cold wallet address is.
Bitmixer is doing the job very well for me. No, I don't say this because I wear a Bitmixer signature. Their service is simply the best.
Bitmixer is doing the job very well for me. No, I don't say this because I wear a Bitmixer signature. Their service is simply the best.
Monero is everything Bitcoin could have been by wasn't.
I think that in time more and more people will come to realize that Bitcoin isn't anonymous at all and move to XMR instead. Or at least use it in complement with XBT.
I think that in time more and more people will come to realize that Bitcoin isn't anonymous at all and move to XMR instead. Or at least use it in complement with XBT.
Note: To acquire a tainted coin, the previous owner just needs to use a mixer before transfering it to an exchanger.
That's why crime tainted coins can originate from a "clean" exchanger as well as from a mixer.
When doing bitcoin ↔ fiat conversion, sometimes I used to set up a face-to-face meeting and had some nice cappuccino&smalltalk moments, but I never had any problems except the block confirmation times was sometimes a bit longer than expected.
That's why crime tainted coins can originate from a "clean" exchanger as well as from a mixer.
When doing bitcoin ↔ fiat conversion, sometimes I used to set up a face-to-face meeting and had some nice cappuccino&smalltalk moments, but I never had any problems except the block confirmation times was sometimes a bit longer than expected.
- If I buy bitcoins for speculation purpose and non-anonymous payments (because my full name is involved), I'm using online banking without hiding my identity. I almost never mix any cryptos I acquired with online banking. I never use any anonymization when dealing with.
- If I plan to use crypto anonymously, I get it by settling a meeting as explained above. I never touch these cryptos without using an anonymization service. Prior to doing a payment, when reorganizing my stashes, when selling: I'm always using a mixer if not already done.
- I never throw non-anonymous cryptos and anonymous cryptos in one pot.
- I'm using a dedicated virtual machine for anonymous browsing and anonymous bitcoin activity which is network firewalled in that way no traffic can escape without using the anonymization interface. This virtual machine can't communicate with any machine in my LAN.
- I never typed in my full name inside this virtual machine at any time. I never had me logged in into any full-name registered email, bank account, messenger, exchanger account inside this virtual machine at any time.
anonymizing bitcoins is a pain in the ass. it's just about time for us to settle on a proper anonymous coin that solves these things by design.
Wouldn't be the least surprised if all current mixing services were LE honeypots.
Just sending your money to an online wallet and then from there to an exchange should do it. Won't work against a global adversary, but then again, if you're not involved in money laundering you should be fine.
Just sending your money to an online wallet and then from there to an exchange should do it. Won't work against a global adversary, but then again, if you're not involved in money laundering you should be fine.
Note: To acquire a tainted coin, the previous owner just needs to use a mixer before transfering it to an exchanger.
That's why crime tainted coins can originate from a "clean" exchanger as well as from a mixer.
When doing bitcoin ↔ fiat conversion, sometimes I used to set up a face-to-face meeting and had some nice cappuccino&smalltalk moments, but I never had any problems except the block confirmation times was sometimes a bit longer than expected.
That's why crime tainted coins can originate from a "clean" exchanger as well as from a mixer.
When doing bitcoin ↔ fiat conversion, sometimes I used to set up a face-to-face meeting and had some nice cappuccino&smalltalk moments, but I never had any problems except the block confirmation times was sometimes a bit longer than expected.
- If I buy bitcoins for speculation purpose and non-anonymous payments (because my full name is involved), I'm using online banking without hiding my identity. I almost never mix any cryptos I acquired with online banking. I never use any anonymization when dealing with.
- If I plan to use crypto anonymously, I get it by settling a meeting as explained above. I never touch these cryptos without using an anonymization service. Prior to doing a payment, when reorganizing my stashes, when selling: I'm always using a mixer if not already done.
- I never throw non-anonymous cryptos and anonymous cryptos in one pot.
- I'm using a dedicated virtual machine for anonymous browsing and anonymous bitcoin activity which is network firewalled in that way no traffic can escape without using the anonymization interface. This virtual machine can't communicate with any machine in my LAN.
- I never typed in my full name inside this virtual machine at any time. I never had me logged in into any full-name registered email, bank account, messenger, exchanger account inside this virtual machine at any time.
Need to know your opinion.
Do you use Bitcoin Mixers/Tumblers/Anonymizers ?
Do you use Bitcoin Mixers/Tumblers/Anonymizers ?
I always protect my anonimity because I dont want people to know how many bitcoin that I have in my wallet because it might make my address to be a target for hacker, just for safety measure and also if you want to protect your anonimity then you can always use an exchanger to launder your bitcoin because it is way easy and you doesnt need to pay some percentage for the fee.
I use Monero to keep my financial life private
Yeah, but to access monero you most likely used BTC before, so whats the catch? they could at least know you bought X amount of Monero.
No, have stopped using BTC completely
and how you acquire monero then by mining? i don't see many other way to be honest
aren't you guys worried about tainting your coins? blacklisting and trouble spending mixed bitcoins is a real threat in the future (at least it is reasonable to calculate with this possibility).
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
how they do know that my coin are mixed, they can't just tainting some coins
you could always sell your coins in a private forum, anonymity is there you just need to work hard to make it better
aren't you guys worried about tainting your coins? blacklisting and trouble spending mixed bitcoins is a real threat in the future (at least it is reasonable to calculate with this possibility).
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
At some point in time all coins in circulation will be tainted. It won't be practical to block transactions just because the coins were used in some alleged criminal activity at some point in the past.
there will be fully regulated exchanges compliant with all government rules - 100% not tainted
At some point in time all coins in circulation will be tainted. It won't be practical to block transactions just because the coins were used in some alleged criminal activity at some point in the past.
Some exchanges do not agree in what you say.
aren't you guys worried about tainting your coins? blacklisting and trouble spending mixed bitcoins is a real threat in the future (at least it is reasonable to calculate with this possibility).
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
At some point in time all coins in circulation will be tainted. It won't be practical to block transactions just because the coins were used in some alleged criminal activity at some point in the past.
aren't you guys worried about tainting your coins? blacklisting and trouble spending mixed bitcoins is a real threat in the future (at least it is reasonable to calculate with this possibility).
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
bitcoin is an open ledger, there is no anonymity unless you think buying launch with bitcoin where they don't need an ID counts as withdrawing bitcoins. But wait until the big regulated transaction processors come into play and simply deny your transactions because your coins are on the list.
well, i guess you can always try to sell your tainted coins on a black market at a small discount...
Anonymity is important for multiple legitimate reasons that can occur in the future.
1) It stops potential miner censorship
2) Advertisers can't focus on you
3) Stores cant raise prices for things that they know you will 100% buy there
4) If you run a business you don't want your competition to know what your profit margin is
5) You don't want your friends to know how many bitcoins you have and ask you for money
6) You don't want criminals to target you to ask for ransoms or rob you etc
7) The list goes on...
1) It stops potential miner censorship
2) Advertisers can't focus on you
3) Stores cant raise prices for things that they know you will 100% buy there
4) If you run a business you don't want your competition to know what your profit margin is
5) You don't want your friends to know how many bitcoins you have and ask you for money
6) You don't want criminals to target you to ask for ransoms or rob you etc
7) The list goes on...
Mixing doesn't mean if will be for the better and for some reason if the new coins actually originate from some illegal stuff or activities, that could be even worse. Anyway, just wondering if there is nothing to hide then why worry about anonymity in the first place.
I use Monero to keep my financial life private
Yeah, but to access monero you most likely used BTC before, so whats the catch? they could at least know you bought X amount of Monero.
No, have stopped using BTC completely
Nope, I don't feel the need to go through tons of hassle to hide my identity, Bitcoin is anonymous enough for me as it is. I don't see why anonymity would be a big deal for the layperson who's just looking to use the coin as a convenient means to shop online. I can totally understand why people who are always engaging in shady deals would feel the urge to defend their anonymity though 
I have a new Bitcoin acct and I'm setting up a VPN so google and the rest of the world does not need to know my every move in life from where i want to eat all the way to dealing with the rash on my..........
Not that it matters I guess, but at the end of the day the chain as they say is only as strong as the weakest link and if I use bitcoin to pay for the service isn't it ultimately traceable to me and if so how do I fix that?
Not that it matters I guess, but at the end of the day the chain as they say is only as strong as the weakest link and if I use bitcoin to pay for the service isn't it ultimately traceable to me and if so how do I fix that?
I prefer mixer though i haven't used it but i have seen many people using other less known service and then the service messes up or fled with amt if big.
It isn't necessary that you need it just because you're doing something illegal . Some people prefer anonymity or some don't want the money tracked back to themselves ever and it helps them
No, I am not use such service. I am not doing anything illegal, then why I use that?
It isn't necessary that you need it just because you're doing something illegal . Some people prefer anonymity or some don't want the money tracked back to themselves ever and it helps them
No, I am not use such service. I am not doing anything illegal, then why I use that?
I use Monero to keep my financial life private
Yeah, but to access monero you most likely used BTC before, so whats the catch? they could at least know you bought X amount of Monero.
Using a mixer helps, but im also worried about the origin of the coins you get, being attached to you.
Essentially what you do it transfer all your BTC to an exchange and buy Monero. Monero has untraceable payments and unlinkable transactions. You could always sell them at the exchange and send the BTC to your new wallet.
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