Topic: Bobs (famous!) House in Germany auction, take II ***3 DAYS LEFT*** - page 3. (Read 5323 times)

Maybe yes, maybe no, but when someone posts in your thread 'I think this is a scam' chances are higher to the Yes factor. Which is totally unfair on my girlfriend to have to take a possible big financial loss simply because someone can't keep their opinions to themselves.



Auction rules technically state no spamming of the post or I will completely abandon the auction. No one is willing to honour that rule, so am I supposed to (in the words of bateatus) open robe and present ass, simply because people only like the rules that suit them (IE getting a house for no reserve) and not the ones that suit me (Having the courtesy not to pollute my post again to give me fair chance to have a decent auction in peace?)


Which are the bones of it- your now pissed off because this isn't going the way you would have like it to and you would not care what happened on this thread if it meant there was an outside chance you would score the house for really really cheap. 


Actually I am changing the rules because of factors outside of MY control. People spamming my post.

Like it or lump it, these are the new rules. Feel free to take your frustrations out on the spammers of my post, especially those who decided to not once, but twice throw up accusations of scamming on them. As per the auction rules if this degrades into a discussion and does not stay an auction I reserve the right to just pull it in it's entirety. If you want to discuss there is a perfectly good thread here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-girlfriends-house-in-germany-196368 for all of this where I would be happy to talk about it until the cows come home.

bitcoin_bob,

I have been watching your two auction threads with interest, but just because someone else has come and polluted your thread doesn't mean he has driven potential bidders away. You did not post any price reserve information in your OPs and now you are changing the rules ex post facto. I was thinking of bidding on the house until I saw your previous post. This does not look good at all. I would say that miernik has a valid bid on your house. Are you now not going to honor the deal if his bid ends up being the highest one because of factors outside his control?

All I can say is: Oh my EFFING GOD!!!!! I wake up to find that this thread has been Hijacked AGAIN!

Mr Goat I only got up 15 mins ago as I was taking with china all night long, just because I don't live in a PC to answer your personal mails within moments of their sending, does not automatically mean I am a scammer. It means I have what is known as a life outside of the internet.

Girlfriend is furious, wanted to pull the auction and just sell it traditionally. I persuaded her that this is worth trying, but due to Mr Goats continued Hijacks she is now setting the reserve at 150BTC, because she feels that the price would be much higher by now if it were not for these Hijacks.

Sorry guys to change the rules but my rules were broken also when I asked this thread not be Hijacked and would be for bids only.


SO TO BE CLEAR THE RESERVE IS NOW SET AT 150BTC NO BIDS BELOW THIS.

AUCTION STILL FINISHES SATURDAY MIDNIGHT GMT

If it does not meet the reserve it will be sent to Ebay and people can bid on it there.

No. He can send anybody (e.g. a lawyer) who presents the correct papers (which is a notarized power of attorney, "Vollmacht" in German). I'd strongly advise you to google some of the issues, the procedure of buying a house in Germany has been discussed by expats in depth.

Yes, Some of us are trying to get some basic information however before we bid.

There is real interest in the house.

still only 44 BTC for the house?

Will his being in Canada matter? Will his girl friend have to fly to Germany to sell it?

Please read http://www.streifler.de/steps-to-take-when-buying-real-estate-in-germany-_2897.html (random source).

"How long will it take until I own the house / the flat?

Several weeks (even months) can pass from the time of signing the notary deed until receiving the land title register confirmation. However, this has no bearing on when you can take over the house as your own. Normally, the purchase can take possession the moment the purchase price is paid in full to the seller. That date is agreed upon in the purchase deed. During this time your interests in the property are protected by a priority notice of conveyance (“Auflassungsvormerkung”)."

It is standard procedure in Germany to only pay after the "Auflassungsvormerkung" has been established. It would be foolish not to do this, especially in a case like this. The "Auflassungsvormerkung" is done with local authorities who check identities, so only the rightful owner can sell property. That's pretty much the gist of it. High level of protection, all the escrow talk seems irrelevant to me if you stick to standard procedures.

OP will most likely (have to) agree on this procedure if he wants to make this sale happen.

It looks like the house is in the village where OP says it is. However it would be nice to have the address so we can confirm the house in the photo is the same one that will be on the paperwork.

@bob.

I guess you dont want to risk any money because Bitcoin could crash while I hold the escrow money. I could sell the coins after I received them (both parties have to agree). So there is no risk in loosing money.

After the deal is done, you would get a Mtgox EURO Coupon and could buy yourself new bitcoins.

Is the house in ichstedt at Schulstraße / Hauptstraße ?

I would offer myself as a escrow for this auction. I live in Germany and I speak german native. So I could check everything with the contract and the lawyer / notary

Sadly I have to report that I highly suspect this to be a scam.

OP has said he will provide the address of the house and the phone number of his attorney in his personal communications with me.

When this information was requested it was not sent. After a few more tries he finally said that he would "have his attorney call me tomorrow morning". Still no explanation as to why he will not give me the phone number or the address of the house.

Having "some guy" calling me and telling me he is a lawyer is not the same as having my lawyer call up a guy and having him verify the information for me.

I want to make sure the house does exist where he says it does and that it is not protected in anyway.

Also I was unable to find the house on google street view. This does not mean much as well they could have missed it but it does make me wonder. The town is not that big at all.

Can I prove that this is a scam? No I can not and the reason why is because I have no information that is useful other than the name of the town and some photos.

I am extremely disappointed as I was seriously interested in the house/auction. I also had some one willing and able to visit the location to see if the house was in good condition.

I will request the OP be labeled a scammer and banned for trolling if he is unwilling or able to provide the basic information needed to auction a house.

I am said to say I have wasted a significant number of hours try to make this work

Please everyone be very careful. If someone does buy this please use escrow and please let me help you write the escrow contract.

Thanks.

This is brilliant. Will you really sell if the price reaches only say 150 BTC? That would mean I can afford a house :-D

Shame the timing is not great, I'm tied up where I am now plus I don't really speak much German

I am monitoring this thread

Friends again.

Thanks.

BitcoinJobe (no relation!) posted a reddit link thread which can be found here;

http://en.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dzu8e/house_auction_in_germany_for_bitcoins_only_a_few/

Only 2.5 days left......don't be shy people

Free bump. Best of luck.

Tent, gun, beer, fun, for 1 week. Collection from Halifax airport, no flights included. No assurance of actually getting the deer, but the beer 100% chance of success.

You'll need to clarify that too unless someone bids 151 and expects you to fly them first class to your home so that they can live with you for 2 weeks at your expense lol.

Bump, we have entered into the less than 3 days mark.

If this goes well there will be more interesting items to come so bid generously........

Bid goes over 150 and I will throw in a free deer hunting holiday in Canada......

Thumbnail gallery of photos here;

http://postimg.org/my.php?gallery=2zbidwy2