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Topic: BookieBig - World's First Sports Betting Chatbot Service - DAILY FREE BET - page 3. (Read 4056 times)

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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
is it still available for new member? did any of you get the bonus bitcoin?
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Yes, we're planning to expand the betting options gradually. We'll have parlays eventually but it's further down on the list. Glad to hear you're enjoying the bot! It started as an experiment so we're pleased to see so many people adopting it.

Resolving payouts faster is a priority now. In the meantime, a reminder that you can also deposit more btc! Once BookieBig receives your deposit you'll be able to bet instantly with 0 confirmations!
You're not kidding. I pressed send in Mycelium... and about 1 second later got a Telegram notification from the BookieBig bot!!?! Shocked  I tested it out and have placed a couple more bets and they went through fine, even with 0 confirmations. Fingers crossed I can get a little payout so I can test withdrawl Tongue...

On the subject of 0 confirmation betting, I would like to ask what happens if the transaction isn't confirmed by game time?? Will the bet stand and I'll get paid out if it wins (after the transaction confirms obviously) or will the bet simply be voided and the stake will eventually be returned to my balance?

I remember reading in another thread that sportsbooks offering 0 confirmation betting were opening themselves up to some sort of "double spend exploit", whereby a player could somehow double spend the coins used in a losing bet and send them back to themselves or something I guess... I believe this may have been related to the sportsbooks policy on how to treat bets where the funds were unconfirmed at time of even starting. So, if the bet was voided, it wouldn't matter... but if they let the bet stand, then "Bad things™" could happen...  Undecided

You're right about the double-spend exploit- that's one of the reasons for our conservative bet closing time of two hours before the event starts. In my experience the vast majority of legitimate transactions confirm within an hour. If your transaction didn't confirm you wouldn't be able to withdraw and you'd have to contact us to deal with on a case-by-case basis (no cases yet).

It would be good to have an explicit policy regarding confirmation and event start time. Thanks for pointing it out, will get back to you.
HCP
legendary
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Yes, we're planning to expand the betting options gradually. We'll have parlays eventually but it's further down on the list. Glad to hear you're enjoying the bot! It started as an experiment so we're pleased to see so many people adopting it.

Resolving payouts faster is a priority now. In the meantime, a reminder that you can also deposit more btc! Once BookieBig receives your deposit you'll be able to bet instantly with 0 confirmations!
You're not kidding. I pressed send in Mycelium... and about 1 second later got a Telegram notification from the BookieBig bot!!?! Shocked  I tested it out and have placed a couple more bets and they went through fine, even with 0 confirmations. Fingers crossed I can get a little payout so I can test withdrawl Tongue...

On the subject of 0 confirmation betting, I would like to ask what happens if the transaction isn't confirmed by game time?? Will the bet stand and I'll get paid out if it wins (after the transaction confirms obviously) or will the bet simply be voided and the stake will eventually be returned to my balance?

I remember reading in another thread that sportsbooks offering 0 confirmation betting were opening themselves up to some sort of "double spend exploit", whereby a player could somehow double spend the coins used in a losing bet and send them back to themselves or something I guess... I believe this may have been related to the sportsbooks policy on how to treat bets where the funds were unconfirmed at time of even starting. So, if the bet was voided, it wouldn't matter... but if they let the bet stand, then "Bad things™" could happen...  Undecided

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I AM A SCAMMER
Well I lost my first bet, but I really like the app!  I didn't understand quite what I was doing.  I thought I was betting on the better odds, but I realized after I made the bet, that I bet on pretty slim odds.  Oh well, I learned something new.  I plan to use this bot more, it makes sports betting much easier for me.  Thanks for the "faucet money" to make a bet!

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0.003 btc on Guillermo Rigondeaux v
James Dickens, Moneyline, James
Dickens (19.91) resolved 7/16/16
Hah... 19.91!!?!  crazy odds... Shocked

Not sure how you messed it up... it is pretty easy... select sport, select league/competition, select game... select bet... usually 1 of only 3 options - Money Line, Spread, Totals...

Speaking of, @bittysmalls... are you guys planning on offering other betting options? Like "Both Team To Score"... half time... or creating parlays etc? Despite my terrible betting skills (think I'm currently about 3 wins, 3 losses, 1 push Tongue)... I am quite enjoying the Bot Smiley Just wish the payouts settling of bets was a bit quicker is all... I've missed betting on a couple of games because I didn't get my payouts in time Sad


I realize that it was dumb now that it is over, but I am new to sports betting Smiley  It was using the American system before when I bet and all I saw was a high number (like 1,xxx) for the person I bet on and a really low negative number for the other person (like -1,xxx) so I figured the "high number" would be better.  Obviously I had it completely opposite Smiley  You live and you learn!
newbie
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Well I lost my first bet, but I really like the app!  I didn't understand quite what I was doing.  I thought I was betting on the better odds, but I realized after I made the bet, that I bet on pretty slim odds.  Oh well, I learned something new.  I plan to use this bot more, it makes sports betting much easier for me.  Thanks for the "faucet money" to make a bet!

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lost
0.003 btc on Guillermo Rigondeaux v
James Dickens, Moneyline, James
Dickens (19.91) resolved 7/16/16
Hah... 19.91!!?!  crazy odds... Shocked

Not sure how you messed it up... it is pretty easy... select sport, select league/competition, select game... select bet... usually 1 of only 3 options - Money Line, Spread, Totals...

Speaking of, @bittysmalls... are you guys planning on offering other betting options? Like "Both Team To Score"... half time... or creating parlays etc? Despite my terrible betting skills (think I'm currently about 3 wins, 3 losses, 1 push Tongue)... I am quite enjoying the Bot Smiley Just wish the payouts settling of bets was a bit quicker is all... I've missed betting on a couple of games because I didn't get my payouts in time Sad


Yes, we're planning to expand the betting options gradually. We'll have parlays eventually but it's further down on the list. Glad to hear you're enjoying the bot! It started as an experiment so we're pleased to see so many people adopting it.

Resolving payouts faster is a priority now. In the meantime, a reminder that you can also deposit more btc! Once BookieBig receives your deposit you'll be able to bet instantly with 0 confirmations!
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
Well I lost my first bet, but I really like the app!  I didn't understand quite what I was doing.  I thought I was betting on the better odds, but I realized after I made the bet, that I bet on pretty slim odds.  Oh well, I learned something new.  I plan to use this bot more, it makes sports betting much easier for me.  Thanks for the "faucet money" to make a bet!

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lost
0.003 btc on Guillermo Rigondeaux v
James Dickens, Moneyline, James
Dickens (19.91) resolved 7/16/16
Hah... 19.91!!?!  crazy odds... Shocked

Not sure how you messed it up... it is pretty easy... select sport, select league/competition, select game... select bet... usually 1 of only 3 options - Money Line, Spread, Totals...

Speaking of, @bittysmalls... are you guys planning on offering other betting options? Like "Both Team To Score"... half time... or creating parlays etc? Despite my terrible betting skills (think I'm currently about 3 wins, 3 losses, 1 push Tongue)... I am quite enjoying the Bot Smiley Just wish the payouts settling of bets was a bit quicker is all... I've missed betting on a couple of games because I didn't get my payouts in time Sad
newbie
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Well I lost my first bet, but I really like the app!  I didn't understand quite what I was doing.  I thought I was betting on the better odds, but I realized after I made the bet, that I bet on pretty slim odds.  Oh well, I learned something new.  I plan to use this bot more, it makes sports betting much easier for me.  Thanks for the "faucet money" to make a bet!

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lost
0.003 btc on Guillermo Rigondeaux v
James Dickens, Moneyline, James
Dickens (19.91) resolved 7/16/16

If you had won that bet it would have been a pretty nice haul!

Thanks for the kind words. What do you find easier to use than other sports books?
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I AM A SCAMMER
Well I lost my first bet, but I really like the app!  I didn't understand quite what I was doing.  I thought I was betting on the better odds, but I realized after I made the bet, that I bet on pretty slim odds.  Oh well, I learned something new.  I plan to use this bot more, it makes sports betting much easier for me.  Thanks for the "faucet money" to make a bet!

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lost
0.003 btc on Guillermo Rigondeaux v
James Dickens, Moneyline, James
Dickens (19.91) resolved 7/16/16
newbie
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We just added Decimal odds format and made it default. If you would like to change back to American, please visit the new /preferences menu.

https://bookiebig.com/static/images/odds-format-preferences.png

Hat tip to HCP and Darkstar!
newbie
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Please fix my wrong graded bet..

i Won the bet but my balance 0 btc,, kindly fix it and if possible sent some bonus tooo..

http://prntscr.com/btp7gp


*Kidding about the bonus

From the other thread:

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@megalox if you check /pending you should see that your bet is still pending resolution. Congrats on your (pending) win! Please allow up to 24 hours for bet resolution. The slow resolution time is one of the top complaints here and we'll work on speeding it up.
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Please fix my wrong graded bet..

i Won the bet but my balance 0 btc,, kindly fix it and if possible sent some bonus tooo..

http://prntscr.com/btp7gp


*Kidding about the bonus
newbie
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minimum withdrawal and turnover? i guess its giveaway so no turnover

right?

Min withdraw is 0.0001 btc. No turnover.
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minimum withdrawal and turnover? i guess its giveaway so no turnover

right?
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My mistake, apologies for the confusion.

@DarkStar's absolutely right, the quarter-point spread values are typically used for asian handicap. Unfortunately we don't support asian handicap yet so any bet on 0.25 or 0.75 spreads would resolve as if it were 0.5.  Will change the spread display soon to match policy.

If there's enough demand, we'll consider adding it in the future!
HCP
legendary
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This would explain why I hadn't seen it before then.

I'm not familiar with the Asian Handicap system. I've seen it mentioned a few times, but most of the services I have used have generally focused on what is being referred to as "Moneyline" options or standard spread betting with whole/half decimals (and other little side bets like first scorer etc)

Having gone away and done exactly what you suggested (yay for Google), I am now a lot more conversant with Asian Handicap... seems like a nice option having those 0.25s and .75s to offer you some cover for tight games that are likely to be a 1 point win or draw.

@bittysmalls, so are your 0.25s and 0.75s actual Asian Handicap odds and will payout appropriately?
legendary
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A non-0.5 spread actually gives more information - for example a change from 0.25 to 0.75 means the odds are shifting slightly higher. We could hide it if you'd like Smiley
No. I'm assuming you are agreeing with HCP's post about how it makes no difference. It does. Betting on a 0.25 handicap means half your money is placed on +0, and half on +0.5. A 0.75 handicap means half your money is on +0.5, and half on +1. Here is an example, in case it confused you:
Team A vs Team B
I take Team A +0.25 @2 (+100 American odds) with 1 BTC. If Team A ties the match, half my money is refunded, and the other half counted as won. My profit is 0.5 BTC. If Team A wins, than my profit is 1 BTC. If Team A loses, than I lose everything. A 0.75 handicap works in the same way, except with +0.5 and +1. If team B wins by 1 point, half my money is lost and half is refunded (a push). If they draw or Team A wins, both are won and I profit 1 BTC. Negative handicaps work in the same way.


Nice feature that I haven't actually seen in most sportsbooks.
That is because most sportsbooks follow the rules of Points Spread betting, and don't use a system that no one else uses.

I know some sportsbooks will count a draw on a spread bet as a loss...
All they have to do is call it an Asian Handicap, then people will understand if they are familiar with betting terminology, or google it and find out.
HCP
legendary
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@HCP

A non-0.5 spread actually gives more information - for example a change from 0.25 to 0.75 means the odds are shifting slightly higher. We could hide it if you'd like Smiley
Ahhhh I suspected that there would be a reason for it... and I thought it might be to show that, in the opinion of the bookie it was going to be a tight result... or they felt that the team was almost good enough for a whole other point. Nice feature that I haven't actually seen in most sportsbooks.


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For a spread bet, if it's a draw after applying the spread, @BookieBig counts it as a push. So in your example if the score was 2-1 to Aberdeen you'd get your money back for a spread bet on Aberdeen -1. However, for moneyline bets a draw would count as a loss for the punter.
As I'm about to find out... stupid Hull City... meh... couldn't even score 1 goal against Grimsby Town... GRIMSBY TOWN!!?!  Angry

Still, it might be worth adding a /FAQ or /help command to the bot, to explain your house rules for such things... I know some sportsbooks will count a draw on a spread bet as a loss... Undecided  So it would be a good idea to point out that you guys are awesome and count it as a push Wink
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@HCP

A non-0.5 spread actually gives more information - for example a change from 0.25 to 0.75 means the odds are shifting slightly higher. We could hide it if you'd like Smiley

For a spread bet, if it's a draw after applying the spread, @BookieBig counts it as a push. So in your example if the score was 2-1 to Aberdeen you'd get your money back for a spread bet on Aberdeen -1. However, for moneyline bets a draw would count as a loss for the punter.
HCP
legendary
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Yeah... I forgot to put my bet on the Airbus UK Broughton vs. Colchester United game... I would have won that one too! Tongue

Ok, so a couple more things that I have noticed and think might be helpful for others:

Is there a reason why some of your spread bets are in 0.25s and 0.75s?

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Spread
/DD3 Airbus UK Broughton 1.25 (-107)
/DD4 Colchester United -1.25 (-112)
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/CC3 Inter Milan (n) -1.75 (104)
/CC4 CSKA Sofia 1.75 (-124)

I realise it really makes no difference to the result as such... as regardless of the decimal value used, it still achieves the same result... preventing a "tie" bet... I'm just used to seeing 0.5 increments Wink

Speaking of "tie" bets... I noticed that there have been some "even" spreads... like the Aberdeen one was

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Spread
/QQ3 Aberdeen -1 (-133)
/QQ4 Ventspils 1 (104)

If the score had been 2-1 to Aberdeen, resulting in the spread score being 1-1 if you took the Aberdeen option... what would the result of the bet be? ie. what is @BookieBig's policy on "tie" bets for "even" spreads? Is it a loss for the punter or a no result, funds returned type deal?
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.. and Aberdeen dominates.
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