【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021) - page 257.

mdtspain

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Quote from: Pengju on June 03, 2014, 05:14:30 PM

Quote from: Sampey on June 03, 2014, 02:28:28 PM

Quote from: andycee on June 03, 2014, 02:21:56 PM

This post Sampey...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7051797

And I thought you read all my posts with great interest Cheesy

Only joking

The idea is to switch C.A.T. between Ping Buys/Pong Sells whilst the market is on an upward trend and then change to Ping Sells/Pong Buys on a downward trend. The switch could be manual using a button or some automated way as discussed.

Switching from rising to falling mode involves cancelling the Pong Sells (likely caught too high, since market is now falling), and using the coin balance to start new Ping Sell/Pong Buys which will work with good gains as the price falls.

Similarly, switching back to rising mode involves cancelling the Pong Buys (likely caught too low, since market is now rising), and using the BTC balance to start new Ping Buy/Pong Sells which works better as the price rises.

Before do something like that i think i need to write some MACD calculator inside C.A.T.

You know that a function like that is VERY VERY VERY RIsky? We are on Cryptocurrency Market, some "classic" market rules doesn't work in this world Wink

I am so glad to hear that you are considering to add EMA (MACD)

So here is one thing I like to share with you, the beauty of EMA (MACD) was elaborated by Goomboo in his thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/goomboos-journal-60501

it is not a magic indictor, but simple is its beauty, just like your C.A.T bot.

The Ema is nice, but I would like to see that CAT would switch following the Parabolic SAR. That is the indicator that I prefer to work with.

Pengju

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Quote from: Sampey on June 03, 2014, 02:28:28 PM

Quote from: andycee on June 03, 2014, 02:21:56 PM

This post Sampey...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7051797

And I thought you read all my posts with great interest Cheesy

Only joking

The idea is to switch C.A.T. between Ping Buys/Pong Sells whilst the market is on an upward trend and then change to Ping Sells/Pong Buys on a downward trend. The switch could be manual using a button or some automated way as discussed.

Switching from rising to falling mode involves cancelling the Pong Sells (likely caught too high, since market is now falling), and using the coin balance to start new Ping Sell/Pong Buys which will work with good gains as the price falls.

Similarly, switching back to rising mode involves cancelling the Pong Buys (likely caught too low, since market is now rising), and using the BTC balance to start new Ping Buy/Pong Sells which works better as the price rises.

Before do something like that i think i need to write some MACD calculator inside C.A.T.

You know that a function like that is VERY VERY VERY RIsky? We are on Cryptocurrency Market, some "classic" market rules doesn't work in this world Wink

I am so glad to hear that you are considering to add EMA (MACD)

So here is one thing I like to share with you, the beauty of EMA (MACD) was elaborated by Goomboo in his thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/goomboos-journal-60501

it is not a magic indictor, but simple is its beauty, just like your C.A.T bot.

andycee

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 500

I think the only real risks are the value you will potentially lose when switching between rising/falling modes - by cancelling any pong orders you have in place. Like I say, this could be calculated anyway and offered to the user, so you know what this might be. Of course, the further you let the market move away from your orders, the more it will be.

I think I'll play with this trading method manually a bit more and get some proof of concept together.

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

Merit: 1040

Quote from: andycee on June 03, 2014, 02:21:56 PM

This post Sampey...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7051797

And I thought you read all my posts with great interest Cheesy

Only joking

The idea is to switch C.A.T. between Ping Buys/Pong Sells whilst the market is on an upward trend and then change to Ping Sells/Pong Buys on a downward trend. The switch could be manual using a button or some automated way as discussed.

Switching from rising to falling mode involves cancelling the Pong Sells (likely caught too high, since market is now falling), and using the coin balance to start new Ping Sell/Pong Buys which will work with good gains as the price falls.

Similarly, switching back to rising mode involves cancelling the Pong Buys (likely caught too low, since market is now rising), and using the BTC balance to start new Ping Buy/Pong Sells which works better as the price rises.

Before do something like that i think i need to write some MACD calculator inside C.A.T.

You know that a function like that is VERY VERY VERY RIsky? We are on Cryptocurrency Market, some "classic" market rules doesn't work in this world Wink

andycee

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 500

This post Sampey...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7051797

And I thought you read all my posts with great interest Cheesy

Only joking

The idea is to switch C.A.T. between Ping Buys/Pong Sells whilst the market is on an upward trend and then change to Ping Sells/Pong Buys on a downward trend. The switch could be manual using a button or some automated way as discussed.

Switching from rising to falling mode involves cancelling the Pong Sells (likely caught too high, since market is now falling), and using the coin balance to start new Ping Sell/Pong Buys which will work with good gains as the price falls.

Similarly, switching back to rising mode involves cancelling the Pong Buys (likely caught too low, since market is now rising), and using the BTC balance to start new Ping Buy/Pong Sells which works better as the price rises.

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

Merit: 1040

Quote from: Pengju on June 03, 2014, 09:06:21 AM

Quote from: andycee on May 31, 2014, 02:47:17 PM

Quote from: Pengju on May 31, 2014, 11:35:24 AM

People should pay you for the trick you revealed 

First I agree with you strategy.

But, actually I was pondering about the same idea for a long time already, the thing bother me is: if we could predict the tendency of marketing correctly, we can just manually buy and hold, or sell it and wait. Then why we need C.A.T?

But I suppose your idea, and I will suggest integrate an EMA (MACD) indicator to automatically detect the direction of market for us.

I am secretly on Sampeys payroll Cheesy

You are totally right about simply buying a lot of coins, holding, and then selling high, BUT your exposure to the market is much higher. That is one of the advantages of C.A.T. - the fact that instead of risking a large bet on a market rising, you bet much smaller amounts, and hope to make many smaller margin trades as it rises. If the market crashes, well you have only lost your small bet. Plus, if the market is fairly stable and not really going anywhere (ideal conditions for C.A.T.!), you can still make plenty of trades on the buy/sell margins.

I will suggest Sampeys double your secret payroll for the insight you shared.

And I am still thinking about your suggestion to has a button to ‘flip ping/pong direction’.

I have an idea here, instead of manually do it, what about has a checkbox option:

And if it is too hard to write a coding to flip ping/pong, another easier way to do it is a checkbox option:

I believe both option can release our trouble to canceled those stuck orders time to time.
Thanks.

Can you do me an example of this "flip ping/pong" direction??

Pengju

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Quote from: andycee on May 31, 2014, 02:47:17 PM

Quote from: Pengju on May 31, 2014, 11:35:24 AM

People should pay you for the trick you revealed 

First I agree with you strategy.

But, actually I was pondering about the same idea for a long time already, the thing bother me is: if we could predict the tendency of marketing correctly, we can just manually buy and hold, or sell it and wait. Then why we need C.A.T?

But I suppose your idea, and I will suggest integrate an EMA (MACD) indicator to automatically detect the direction of market for us.

I am secretly on Sampeys payroll Cheesy

You are totally right about simply buying a lot of coins, holding, and then selling high, BUT your exposure to the market is much higher. That is one of the advantages of C.A.T. - the fact that instead of risking a large bet on a market rising, you bet much smaller amounts, and hope to make many smaller margin trades as it rises. If the market crashes, well you have only lost your small bet. Plus, if the market is fairly stable and not really going anywhere (ideal conditions for C.A.T.!), you can still make plenty of trades on the buy/sell margins.

I will suggest Sampeys double your secret payroll for the insight you shared.

And I am still thinking about your suggestion to has a button to ‘flip ping/pong direction’.

I have an idea here, instead of manually do it, what about has a checkbox option:

And if it is too hard to write a coding to flip ping/pong, another easier way to do it is a checkbox option:

I believe both option can release our trouble to canceled those stuck orders time to time.
Thanks.

trader59

full member

Activity: 147

Merit: 100

I'm selling my copy of C.A.T + cryptsy + btc-e. Excellent tool but I don't have the time to analyze all the markets all day. 0.6BTC or best offer. PM me if you're interested.

You'll get logins + 2FA code and I'll contact Sampey so you get future versions as well.

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

Merit: 1040

This is the new prices list

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

Merit: 1040

Hi C.A.T. users.
It seems that Poloniex is Ready!! You can start trade on the site.
And of course, tell me about any problems Wink

meatnz

newbie

Activity: 14

Merit: 0

Hi Guys,

I'm selling my copy of C.A.T as I don't have enough time to trade anymore, It is attached to the Cryptsy interface.

Price: 0.45 BTC

I will provide you with the associated Cryptsy/Email account login details upon purchase and email Sampey with your bitcointalk username to he can pm you with any future C.A.T releases.

Sampey could you please verify this post/my copy please

andycee

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 500

Quote from: Pengju on May 31, 2014, 11:35:24 AM

People should pay you for the trick you revealed 

First I agree with you strategy.

But, actually I was pondering about the same idea for a long time already, the thing bother me is: if we could predict the tendency of marketing correctly, we can just manually buy and hold, or sell it and wait. Then why we need C.A.T?

But I suppose your idea, and I will suggest integrate an EMA (MACD) indicator to automatically detect the direction of market for us.

I am secretly on Sampeys payroll Cheesy

You are totally right about simply buying a lot of coins, holding, and then selling high, BUT your exposure to the market is much higher. That is one of the advantages of C.A.T. - the fact that instead of risking a large bet on a market rising, you bet much smaller amounts, and hope to make many smaller margin trades as it rises. If the market crashes, well you have only lost your small bet. Plus, if the market is fairly stable and not really going anywhere (ideal conditions for C.A.T.!), you can still make plenty of trades on the buy/sell margins.

Pengju

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Quote from: andycee on May 31, 2014, 04:55:06 AM

Quote from: Pengju on May 29, 2014, 08:59:08 AM

What about has an option to ?
I guess it can slightly alleviate the risk to stuck on the peak of spike also.

You could do this, but who knows how long to wait before a market has finished its dump and is ready to pump again ? Better to wait until a low price limit is met I think.

Heres another thought....

I think most people should have realised that Ping Buy/Pong Sell only works well on a rising (pumped) market, and Ping Sell/Pong Buy only works well on a falling (dumped) market.

To get the most gains, you can run Ping Buys whilst its rising, and then when the market starts a dump cycle (and you have some too high Pong Sells), cancel these orders, take a small loss on the difference, and then use the coin balance to start Ping Sell orders which should make good gains on the downward trend.

Then again, when the market looks like it has fallen its most and will start a pump again, similarly cancel your (too low Pong Buys), take a small loss, and restart these orders as Ping Buys, making the most gains again on the pump.

If you judge the market flips correctly, the losses should be zero or minimal. If you wait too long for the price trend to reverse, they will be more.

If people agree that this is a good method of making the most out of market cycles, I'd like to suggest the following :

Have a button in CAT which works out and displays any loss to flip the market, and also tells you which way CAT is working i.e. Rising/Falling
Pressing the button does the steps above and also adds the losses to the gain sheet, toggling between Rising/Falling
Next step might even be to automate this with options like Set Market to Rising when a (low) price is met & Set Market to Falling when a (high) price is met.

Comments pls !

People should pay you for the trick you revealed 

First I agree with you strategy.

But, actually I was pondering about the same idea for a long time already, the thing bother me is: if we could predict the tendency of marketing correctly, we can just manually buy and hold, or sell it and wait. Then why we need C.A.T?

But I suppose your idea, and I will suggest integrate an EMA (MACD) indicator to automatically detect the direction of market for us.

andycee

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 500

Quote from: Pengju on May 29, 2014, 08:59:08 AM

What about has an option to ?
I guess it can slightly alleviate the risk to stuck on the peak of spike also.

You could do this, but who knows how long to wait before a market has finished its dump and is ready to pump again ? Better to wait until a low price limit is met I think.

Heres another thought....

I think most people should have realised that Ping Buy/Pong Sell only works well on a rising (pumped) market, and Ping Sell/Pong Buy only works well on a falling (dumped) market.

To get the most gains, you can run Ping Buys whilst its rising, and then when the market starts a dump cycle (and you have some too high Pong Sells), cancel these orders, take a small loss on the difference, and then use the coin balance to start Ping Sell orders which should make good gains on the downward trend.

Then again, when the market looks like it has fallen its most and will start a pump again, similarly cancel your (too low Pong Buys), take a small loss, and restart these orders as Ping Buys, making the most gains again on the pump.

If you judge the market flips correctly, the losses should be zero or minimal. If you wait too long for the price trend to reverse, they will be more.

If people agree that this is a good method of making the most out of market cycles, I'd like to suggest the following :

Have a button in CAT which works out and displays any loss to flip the market, and also tells you which way CAT is working i.e. Rising/Falling
Pressing the button does the steps above and also adds the losses to the gain sheet, toggling between Rising/Falling
Next step might even be to automate this with options like Set Market to Rising when a (low) price is met & Set Market to Falling when a (high) price is met.

Comments pls !

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

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Today i've got the 100th Positive Feedback.

Thanks to all Grin

port119

newbie

Activity: 7

Merit: 0

Selling my copy - I don't have the time to run it.
selling for 0.4BTC - have cryptsy & BTC-e edition.

PM me.

thanks

Sampey

legendary

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Quote from: wampumcoin.com on May 29, 2014, 08:36:30 PM

Hi Sampey,

is anyone else having problems creating api keys on btc-e?

I've created lots in the past, but for some reason:
1) btc-e is not allowing me to save new keys (it doesn't blank the secret key when page is reloaded or I log out)
2) c.a.t. reports that the user is not found.

Any ideas?

http://wampumCoin.com

I need to know the nickname you have used to buy C.A.T.

wampumcoin.com

newbie

Activity: 51

Merit: 0

Hi Sampey,

is anyone else having problems creating api keys on btc-e?

I've created lots in the past, but for some reason:
1) btc-e is not allowing me to save new keys (it doesn't blank the secret key when page is reloaded or I log out)
2) c.a.t. reports that the user is not found.

Any ideas?

http://wampumCoin.com

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

Merit: 1040

Sending 1.7 To all users
Please, for any problems PM me Wink

Sampey

legendary

Activity: 2632

Merit: 1040

Hi guys, thanks for all suggestions. Wink

After 1.7 release, and after a stable version (i think 1.7 will be more stable than 1.6) i will work on all your suggestions.

I Want to excuse myself for some problems on 1.6 version : i have work hard for 3 weeks full time (i was ill at home) to port C.A.T. from a Single-Site applicaton to Multi-Site application. Change thousands of code lines.

There won't be any big changes like these ones (i mean 1.3->1.4->1.5->1.6). C.A.T. will be always more stable and i will be able to interface with a new site in less than 10 hours of work Wink

Thanks for all your support Wink

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