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Topic: 【 BOT 】 C.A.T. Cryptsy Automatic Trader 1 [email protected] (Old Topic Beta1-Beta3V8) - page 19. (Read 151163 times)

legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
Stop wasting you money, keep on mining, it is supposed to be fun, and not a get rich quick scheme. At least, not for the majority. If you are in crypto and trading to get rich, good luck to you all, pretend you did not read this...

mining is the safest route to lose monies now that scrypt asics are out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4709897
just ask to the btc miners how are they doing.

but you may have a point. I would add that exchanges are probably frontrunning their users skimming most of the profits.
but until i keep getting substantial daily returns from this bot i'll keep using it.  
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
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Most of you loose money, explaining why people sell off their copy of C.A.T. or other trade script/tools.

this is not true, very few people are selling C.A.T. only because they don't have time to follow market trends, or they tought it was a "miracle machine".
Do you have any idea of how many CAT copy i have sold? No, you don't have.
Do you know how many people have ROI in less than 1 month CAT Value? No you don't have.

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Instead of checking you trading tools, check the charts, see what happens for yourselfs.

This is what a CAT User must do! Because CAT works better if you study markets and set correct parameter. But you're talking about a software you don't have.


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if you put in the trader key of the developer, he gets .10% of every trade.

If you use my referral KEY you get 0.2 Discount. i will NEVER ROI that discount with Cryptsy Point.

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I did not post a reply to troll in here

Use my thread to say something about a Program you don't know and you haven't ever used isn't trolling?

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Stop wasting you money, keep on mining,

Aahhahah this is good, actually mining cost are not comparable to CAT potential and gain possibility
NPG
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed

I had this issue with Beta3V7, went back to V6 and is working much faster.  Seems there might be something in V7 that changed.

i had same problem for hours. Reverted back to 3.6 which is working perfectly

Seems very strange, i  haven't change nothing on the communication protocol....

Something is very wrong here. I thought I'd leave it until the morning for a quieter time at Cryptsy, but...

67 seconds to Check Current Status.
21 minutes to read (LTC) market status with stats
All market tabs practically say Lookup constantly (17 open LTC markets) only one or two occasionally go green for Wait.
Time between market lookups can be very long :
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2014-01-28 07:15:15| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Never Buy Over 0.01500000 price calculated is 0.01506082
2014-01-28 07:35:41| PONG-34360280 : Buy [email protected] Current 15.80244364 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Never Buy Over 0.01500000 price calculated is 0.01506082
2014-01-28 07:35:41| PONG-34360286 : Buy [email protected] Current 0.50595543 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Never Buy Over 0.01500000 price calculated is 0.01506082
2014-01-28 07:35:41| PONG-34360299 : Buy [email protected] Current 34.28713313 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-28 07:55:43| PONG-34382311 : Sell [email protected] Current 22.55823297 | Try to Delete/Recreate, New Values : [email protected]
2014-01-28 08:15:20| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]

Something is totally bogging down the API comms...


I had to register to comment, and i finally did. What you all guys seem to be missing, is that the Chinese (most likely), or others with huge amounts of money, dominate the exchanges. For you all day traders, who trade peanuts, there is very little money to be made. Most of you loose money, explaining why people sell off their copy of C.A.T. or other trade script/tools. The Chinese are way better in cracking the system, have lots and lots more money, most of that money is yours and mine.

For example, the day FedoraCoin (TIPS/LTC) went to Cryptsy, these guys pumped in massive amounts of LTC in there. Those are the ones that made 100+ % percent profits in the first minutes. All the scripts in the world are nothing worth compared to what they do with these amounts.

And i hereby blatantly accuse Cryptsy that they run an algorythm, that executes large orders from the whales with priority over the orders that us daytraders place. So we alle loose money, in favor of the big whales.
And I could be wrong about that, but there is no way that it can be proven otherwise...

The whales (the trading tools included) have a tendency to lock up the exchanges, just like it did with MOON, DOGE, TIPS, RPC, etc. There is no movement at all. The first couple of minutes, there was money to be made, and now everything is stuck.

Instead of checking you trading tools, check the charts, see what happens for yourselfs. I figured out a way to prove my theory, and no matter what and how many orders, small or big, I place at Cryptsy, in EVERY coin I mentioned earlier, they all go the opposite directions, even with closing gaps between 2-7 cents difference, at the end, they all lock up. MOON, 12-13-12-13, for hours on end... When I place a buy order for 12 cents, it takes hours to fullfill, and when it finally does, I place a sell order for 13 cents, and that one NEVER completes... I wonder why...

Scripted trading or whith tools, may seem a lot of fun, but in the end it is practically never profitable for us daytraders with little cash compared to the whales.

All we do is make Cryptsy richer, the whales, richer, and the tool developer richer.

.20% buy fee, .30% sell fee, and if you put in the trader key of the developer, he gets .10% of every trade.

I did not post a reply to troll in here, but you all seem so busy trying to make 0.003% or 0.003BTC, if you look at the bigger picture, thousands and thousands of daytraders make there debut with selfmined coins or bought coins, on the exchanges these days, for what? To make the rich even richer... Just as it is in real life...

These are just my 2 cents, I thought would be best not to keep for myself, but to share with you, as a warning. Stop wasting you money, keep on mining, it is supposed to be fun, and not a get rich quick scheme. At least, not for the majority. If you are in crypto and trading to get rich, good luck to you all, pretend you did not read this...
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed

I had this issue with Beta3V7, went back to V6 and is working much faster.  Seems there might be something in V7 that changed.

i had same problem for hours. Reverted back to 3.6 which is working perfectly

Seems very strange, i  haven't change nothing on the communication protocol....

Something is very wrong here. I thought I'd leave it until the morning for a quieter time at Cryptsy, but...

67 seconds to Check Current Status.
21 minutes to read (LTC) market status with stats
All market tabs practically say Lookup constantly (17 open LTC markets) only one or two occasionally go green for Wait.
Time between market lookups can be very long :
Quote
2014-01-28 07:15:15| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Never Buy Over 0.01500000 price calculated is 0.01506082
2014-01-28 07:35:41| PONG-34360280 : Buy [email protected] Current 15.80244364 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Never Buy Over 0.01500000 price calculated is 0.01506082
2014-01-28 07:35:41| PONG-34360286 : Buy [email protected] Current 0.50595543 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Never Buy Over 0.01500000 price calculated is 0.01506082
2014-01-28 07:35:41| PONG-34360299 : Buy [email protected] Current 34.28713313 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-28 07:35:41| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-28 07:55:43| PONG-34382311 : Sell [email protected] Current 22.55823297 | Try to Delete/Recreate, New Values : [email protected]
2014-01-28 08:15:20| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]

Something is totally bogging down the API comms...
full member
Activity: 137
Merit: 100
Selling my copy of CAT and associated Cryptsy for 0.6 BTC --- PM if interested
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed

I had this issue with Beta3V7, went back to V6 and is working much faster.  Seems there might be something in V7 that changed.

i had same problem for hours. Reverted back to 3.6 which is working perfectly

Seems very strange, i  haven't change nothing on the communication protocol....
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed

I had this issue with Beta3V7, went back to V6 and is working much faster.  Seems there might be something in V7 that changed.

i had same problem for hours. Reverted back to 3.6 which is working perfectly
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed

I had this issue with Beta3V7, went back to V6 and is working much faster.  Seems there might be something in V7 that changed.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed

...its about 6-7 minutes between each market check. This is way too long...
full member
Activity: 227
Merit: 100
I really think that the real power of C.A.T would come when Sampey implements an algo taking into account technical analysis methods and indicators that could make C.A.T analyze the market each moment and decide if its a good moment for a ping creation or on the other hand if it detects that the value will possibly go down sell at the current market value and stop ping creation (and start again when the situation is appropriate).

I can recommend (for learning about bots with this methods) www.cryptotrader.com. It has a lot of bots using these methods and the code is open for everybody.

Some useful methods could be:

AROON INDICATOR: http://www.onlinetradingconcepts.com/TechnicalAnalysis/Aroon.html
ICHIMOKU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichimoku
PARABOLIC SAR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_SAR
MACD INDICATOR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MACD
RSI INDICATOR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_strength_index

Here you can find a bot using the items listed before although on the site are hundreds: https://cryptotrader.org/backtests/bBHkC9jBKduusEBBr

If you could add this gear to the algo would make the program much more independent which is what everybody needs...
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500

My God...Cryptsy is soooooo slow ATM !!!

My market tabs never even go green, they constantly show Lookup.

15 minutes for LTC markets to load with stats  Embarrassed
full member
Activity: 227
Merit: 100
It would be nice to extend the colours of each market tab to include the following :

Restricted trading (e.g. stopped ping creation in force)
Current price outside of trading limits (never buy under/over in force)
Hung thread (maybe checked by no general log updates in x minutes)

I'd also love to know when no 'action' or possible trades are able on a market, due to all funds being tied up in trades too far away from the current price - e.g. when you have quite high sells or very low buys - as at this point I would decide on restarting market and taking a loss, or investing more base currency. I know...I ask a lot !


+1
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
Code:
mark/reset not supported
Exception in thread "Thread-1387" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot format given Object as a Number
at java.text.DecimalFormat.format(DecimalFormat.java:505)
at java.text.Format.format(Format.java:157)
at cryptsy.Env.formatDoubleToString(Env.java:139)
at cryptsy.pingPong.Interface.JPanelMarketAlgo.suggestedBuySell(JPanelMarketAlgo.java:1080)
at cryptsy.pingPong.Interface.JPanelMarketAlgo.access$800(JPanelMarketAlgo.java:33)
at cryptsy.pingPong.Interface.JPanelMarketAlgo$2.run(JPanelMarketAlgo.java:202)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:724)
mark/reset not supported
mark/reset not supported
Huh

It's an error in the Suggested Buy/Sell price, don't worry. Have you press 2 times the button?
legendary
Activity: 2955
Merit: 1049
Code:
mark/reset not supported
Exception in thread "Thread-1387" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot format given Object as a Number
at java.text.DecimalFormat.format(DecimalFormat.java:505)
at java.text.Format.format(Format.java:157)
at cryptsy.Env.formatDoubleToString(Env.java:139)
at cryptsy.pingPong.Interface.JPanelMarketAlgo.suggestedBuySell(JPanelMarketAlgo.java:1080)
at cryptsy.pingPong.Interface.JPanelMarketAlgo.access$800(JPanelMarketAlgo.java:33)
at cryptsy.pingPong.Interface.JPanelMarketAlgo$2.run(JPanelMarketAlgo.java:202)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:724)
mark/reset not supported
mark/reset not supported
Huh
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
what does it mean "Always create Pong from trade"?

if i uncheck it C.A.T. could pong before/without a ping?

It means that :
After a trade C.A.T. try to create your PONG order on top of the book orders. If this is not possible, CAT will retry.
With this option checheck if there isn't a way to set the order on top of the book CAT will calculate the price for the Min Guaranteed Gain and will place the order INSIDE the book orders
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
what does it mean "Always create Pong from trade"?

if i uncheck it C.A.T. could pong before/without a ping?
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
Hi
After beeing using the program for 2 days i've some questions about how it works:

The ping buy values are always going up?
I mean for example:

1.- MANUAL BUY PING -> 0.0090
2.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0091
3.- AUTOMATIC  BUY PING -> 0.0091
4.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0092
5.- AUTOMATIC  BUY PING -> 0.0092
6.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0093
7.- AUTOMATIC  BUY PING -> 0.0093
8.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0094

As the market value is appreciating its ok but when the value reaches its maximun value, you will have X quantity of coins with a sell order in the highest value (which could never repeat). This will happen in all the markets...if you manually cancel that orders and make a manual sell at lower prices you will loose money so what the Gain tab shows is not "real" gain then just gain by succeded ping-pong...

Am i right, or is there any instrument to avoid this situation?

2 days using the program and making not profit at all because of this...

Regards

No, it works like this :

MANUAL BUY/SELL PING -> 0.0090 -> TRADE -> PONG SELL/BUY (0.0091, or the price that guaranteed you the % Gain set) -> TRADE -> GAIN -> TOTAL IN BUY/SELL POOL

Buy/Sell Pool -> New Ping at current market values -> TRADE -> PONG etc.....
legendary
Activity: 2955
Merit: 1049
Is Cryptsy. No change in speed from old to new release.
after minutes no responses from Cryptsy for check current status on all coins -> a bug or is this Cryptsy too?
full member
Activity: 227
Merit: 100
Hi
After beeing using the program for 2 days i've some questions about how it works:

The ping buy values are always going up?
I mean for example:

1.- MANUAL BUY PING -> 0.0090
2.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0091
3.- AUTOMATIC  BUY PING -> 0.0091
4.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0092
5.- AUTOMATIC  BUY PING -> 0.0092
6.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0093
7.- AUTOMATIC  BUY PING -> 0.0093
8.- AUTOMATIC  SELL PONG -> 0.0094

As the market value is appreciating its ok but when the value reaches its maximun value, you will have X quantity of coins with a sell order in the highest value (which could never repeat). This will happen in all the markets...if you manually cancel that orders and make a manual sell at lower prices you will loose money so what the Gain tab shows is not "real" gain then just gain by succeded ping-pong...

Am i right, or is there any instrument to avoid this situation?

2 days using the program and making not profit at all because of this...

Regards
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
I have the feeling the new version is much slower than the old version.  Sad

Maybe Crypsy is very slow today.

Is Cryptsy. No change in speed from old to new release.
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