So it is to safe to begin with
Buy 100 at 0.9
Sell 100 at 1.1
as ping orders?
I did that and got tons of small gain records, much more than I usually get if I only do buy pings. The cumulative gain in first hour is about 5 times higher - maybe this is the way CAT is supposed to work and the bad thing was to sell all altcoins at the end of the session - I need them for ping sells.
If anybody could try, have only BTC and a certain amount of just one single altcoin, to run CAT with equal sell and buy orders (at prices suggested) and let us what it does
Topic: 【 BOT 】 C.A.T. Cryptsy Automatic Trader 1 [email protected] (Old Topic Beta1-Beta3V8) - page 70. (Read 151173 times)
December 06, 2013, 10:26:05 AM
December 06, 2013, 10:14:25 AM
How does cryptsy (and CAT) behave in the following situation:
let's have 100 Coin ping buy at 0.90 per Coin and
let's have 100 Coin ping sell at 1.10 per Coin
The ping buy occurs and the price rises (somebody buying at 1.00). Then it pong sells back at 1.05 (somebody buying at 1.09), price rises again and creates a new ping buy order at 1.10 per Coin. Here I meet the ping sell order from the beginning.
Now comes the point of discussion - will I buy from myself?
let's have 100 Coin ping buy at 0.90 per Coin and
let's have 100 Coin ping sell at 1.10 per Coin
The ping buy occurs and the price rises (somebody buying at 1.00). Then it pong sells back at 1.05 (somebody buying at 1.09), price rises again and creates a new ping buy order at 1.10 per Coin. Here I meet the ping sell order from the beginning.
Now comes the point of discussion - will I buy from myself?
No, you cannot buy/sell to yourself.
There's a routine in the Algorithm to Exclude your price from the possible price of a new order/recreated order.
Routine is called "DontSellBuyToMyself"
December 06, 2013, 10:03:26 AM
How does cryptsy (and CAT) behave in the following situation:
let's have 100 Coin ping buy at 0.90 per Coin and
let's have 100 Coin ping sell at 1.10 per Coin
The ping buy occurs and the price rises (somebody buying at 1.00). Then it pong sells back at 1.05 (somebody buying at 1.09), price rises again and creates a new ping buy order at 1.10 per Coin. Here I meet the ping sell order from the beginning.
Now comes the point of discussion - will I buy from myself?
let's have 100 Coin ping buy at 0.90 per Coin and
let's have 100 Coin ping sell at 1.10 per Coin
The ping buy occurs and the price rises (somebody buying at 1.00). Then it pong sells back at 1.05 (somebody buying at 1.09), price rises again and creates a new ping buy order at 1.10 per Coin. Here I meet the ping sell order from the beginning.
Now comes the point of discussion - will I buy from myself?
December 06, 2013, 09:51:55 AM
Portfolio value is a little "tricky".
It's too simple, and is never the real value of your coins.
Let's do an example :
If you have 100 XXX Coins
And in the relative markets best Buy orders are
Buy 1@10
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
etc
And someone buy 0.5@10, current situation become :
Buy 0.5@10
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
etc
And Last Trade is 0.5@10
Your estimated portfolio value is 100*10 = 1000 BTC
Other 2 orders 0.5@10 And [email protected] -> 0.5 is the last trade
Your estimated portfolio value is 100*0.5 = 50 BTC
You have lost 950 BTC
It's too simple, and is never the real value of your coins.
Let's do an example :
If you have 100 XXX Coins
And in the relative markets best Buy orders are
Buy 1@10
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
etc
And someone buy 0.5@10, current situation become :
Buy 0.5@10
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
Buy [email protected]
etc
And Last Trade is 0.5@10
Your estimated portfolio value is 100*10 = 1000 BTC
Other 2 orders 0.5@10 And [email protected] -> 0.5 is the last trade
Your estimated portfolio value is 100*0.5 = 50 BTC
You have lost 950 BTC
December 06, 2013, 09:34:59 AM
before I trade, my portfolio in crypsty is 1.3 btc, and after 24 hours trading, due to altcoin decreasing value, my portfolio goes down to 0.6
all take my chance to get back all my btc by selling all altcoins
after I sold all my altcoin, I get 1.31
I guess...crypsty server is not accurate about portfolio
my gain in 24 hours is about 0.08-0.11
all take my chance to get back all my btc by selling all altcoins
after I sold all my altcoin, I get 1.31
I guess...crypsty server is not accurate about portfolio
my gain in 24 hours is about 0.08-0.11
December 06, 2013, 07:19:34 AM
I think i will do something like :
Available
Held
Total
Available
Held
Total
December 06, 2013, 07:05:44 AM
Great, thanks very much. I think that (balances_available[n] + balances_hold[n]) instead of just balances_available[n] should be enough.
December 06, 2013, 06:59:47 AM
Actual Portfolio value in CAT is :
BTC Amount + Sum(Of All BTC Market Alt Curr * lastMarketPrice)+Sum(Of All Only-LTC Market Alt Curr * lastMarketPrice)+Sum(Of All Only-XPM Market Alt Curr * lastMarketPrice)
And work on API
getinfo
balances_available Array of currencies and the balances availalbe for each
balances_hold Array of currencies and the amounts currently on hold for open orders
servertimestamp Current server timestamp
servertimezone Current timezone for the server
serverdatetime Current date/time on the server
openordercount Count of open orders on your account
I Will Add Equivalent on :
balances_hold
BTC Amount + Sum(Of All BTC Market Alt Curr * lastMarketPrice)+Sum(Of All Only-LTC Market Alt Curr * lastMarketPrice)+Sum(Of All Only-XPM Market Alt Curr * lastMarketPrice)
And work on API
getinfo
balances_available Array of currencies and the balances availalbe for each
balances_hold Array of currencies and the amounts currently on hold for open orders
servertimestamp Current server timestamp
servertimezone Current timezone for the server
serverdatetime Current date/time on the server
openordercount Count of open orders on your account
I Will Add Equivalent on :
balances_hold
December 06, 2013, 06:29:45 AM
After I entered new sell ping orders, the estimate dropped by 0.15. That's definitely wrong. I guess they had to disable this feature first for all and later for coins held in orders. If yes, I could have been in profit, but I am not able to calculate it until all coins are sold back.
Please post your algo setting, gain reported, estimate by cryptsy, the gain after you sold back all altcoins at the end of CAT trading session if you want.
Sampey, definitely add coins held in orders to the estimate, but it should not just multiply by the nearest buy price.
Please post your algo setting, gain reported, estimate by cryptsy, the gain after you sold back all altcoins at the end of CAT trading session if you want.
Sampey, definitely add coins held in orders to the estimate, but it should not just multiply by the nearest buy price.
December 06, 2013, 06:04:44 AM
this night i made 0.07, but cryptsy balance is still not working 
December 06, 2013, 05:57:33 AM
Is it only me or do you experience loss during last day or two despite cryptsy running smoothly? Traded 15 markets, each 0.01 BTC volume buy ping order in aggressive mode and the result is 0.013 gain reported, but the estimate dropped by 0.08. Prices always dropped significantly, there are many sell orders at prices much higher than the current ones. I guess if I make one buy and one sell order at the beginning, it could collect profit from movements in both directions.
Overall, thanks to very profitable weekend, I am still in profit, but not expected so much loss again after cryptsy resolved their performance issues.
Overall, thanks to very profitable weekend, I am still in profit, but not expected so much loss again after cryptsy resolved their performance issues.
December 06, 2013, 01:42:20 AM
is Estimated Portfolio Value not working in Cryptsy site??
from last night its always showing only 0 BTC for me
from last night its always showing only 0 BTC for me
December 05, 2013, 06:52:46 PM
probably in the new version, the "stop process" fail and freeze CAT (whitout asking "do you want to close all pending orders") when there's and error like
"Insufficient LTC in account to complete this order"
"Insufficient LTC in account to complete this order"
December 05, 2013, 06:18:19 PM
it's just cryptsy fault, i was in the same situation last week
close cat, place all sell manually or reopen cat and place all sell order with never buy under with your gain % set (you have to do it manually)
close cat, place all sell manually or reopen cat and place all sell order with never buy under with your gain % set (you have to do it manually)
December 05, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
Going to have to manually untangle it. Oof.
2013-12-05 08:01:57 - Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
My problem now is I have 25 open orders (all Sells) and many of the currencies they were for errored out. And they are all losing me money now
2013-12-05 08:01:57 - Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
My problem now is I have 25 open orders (all Sells) and many of the currencies they were for errored out. And they are all losing me money now
December 05, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
What do you see in the Error Logs?
nothing and also in the cmd, nothing
it was on CAT/BTC, closed 2-3 times, reopened the market and now it works
December 05, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
What kind of error?
There's a "false" positive between the Json Error
There's a "false" positive between the Json Error
December 05, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
Ugh, left it running while at work and came home to a million JSON errors.
December 05, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Yes you're right, i must add this function. Is only calculated over balance not held for orders.
I sign this in the TO DO LIST
I sign this in the TO DO LIST
December 05, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
No it's the same for me.
Portfolio value on CAT works?
Portfolio value on CAT works?
yes, I checked in 2V6, it works.
but it is based on coin available balance isn't it?,
I think my coin at held for order is not calculated
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