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Topic: Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS - page 145. (Read 388610 times)

legendary
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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
Yep. Great post. CapCoin is a good name. Simple and effective is often the best choice.

you are getting close BitcoinFX

very close.....

: D

Perhaps we have all overlooked the most obvious choice, which also uses alliteration and therefore has a good ring to it ...

CryptoCAPs   Cool
legendary
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I guess that we have to wait for mullick.
hero member
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I am doing what I can to ensure we keep this growing. I just hope others are too...

But I am really wanting this rebrand to happen now... So I can do more.

Explaining BTC is hard enough... Explaining Bottlecaps seems to be 10x harder... Ignoring BTC and branding "Cappuccinos", or just "Caps", is slightly easier.

I do find it odd that "Caps" seems to be equally as welcoming as "Cappuccinos"... Few think of "Baseball caps" or "Bottle caps", when I say CAPs. Though they do think of the word "Cover" or "Seal" or "Protection"... (Must be an INC. thing... Cap-coverage?)

But they all love a good cup of cappuccino, or coffee. After all, this is about the love of the coin! (The support)
hero member
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I like the old name, am semi interested in the rebranding to Cappuccino if that name sticks, and a cool looking coffee cup logo.  But most of all, I am liking the renewed interest in the coin.  It seemed like everyone had forgotten about it, and it was falling off every website out there.  Glad it looks like it has a bit of life in it again. 
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Ok, back home now and working on the morphing logo... see what I can do.

As soon as Mulluck comes back, I'll ask him to strip the dead links from the first post, or demand they return CAP to existence on the sites they link to.. and update the graphic which still says 1.5.1 not 1.5.2...

Hope we can release a new version, with some form of in-wallet link to the relevant website, where-ever that may be, whatever it may be... (Hopefully as a rebranded coin, so as to be as complete as possible, on re-release.)

I have put-up anti-bot bots... lol... who have been trading 10-coins at a time, to 500 coins at a time, just relisting dumped coins. Apparently they are buying coins from each other and themselves, to drive the value down more, so they get more, cheaper. Kudos to them, but I have more money than they do. Since I trade in thousands. Tongue

No guarantees, other than that bottom shouldn't appear again. Thus, the bottom has been reached. No-where to go but up from here. All that whole slope, and they did all that damage with only about 30,000cr total actual purchased volume. Why do people not see that selling 2 coins for 0.000008 does not make the value of all coins 0.000008, and panic. However, the actual volume value is low, just not that low, and not 1000% low. (Because no-one, except bots and the miners selling change, are selling that low. Got more miners up on it too... only about 50% More, but it will be 100% more soon, than 200% more...)

Part of the problem is, everyone is holding, and few are actually trading. (Holding for 0.02% when the coin falls 100% is not wise, unless you buy more low, to reduce your average that you paid for the higher price coins, or sell... letting it fall lower, then buy back at a lower price, skipping the fall-value. Selling a coin purchased at 0.001 when it hits 0.0005... then buying back at 0.0001, riding it back up to 0.0005... is better than holding a coin from 0.001 and riding it all the way down to 0.0001, waiting for it to rise again back to 0.001.)

Well, now you know... buy at this new low, and reduce that 0.001 holding to a 0.0005 holding by buying around 0.00001. Best solution... or mine while the diff is low, and sell half, keep half... pushing the price UP not low-balling it down, which lowers your gains from mining.
hero member
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I got another 40,000 last night. Nice that bots are so easy to manipulate to lower prices. But as you can see, there is no volume in bots, they trade using 10-50 coins driving the price down for them to get cheap coins. Throw real volume at them, and they run away. Slide the chart-bar over and you see their volume bars don't even show, compared to mine. And I am only buying 1000 to 5000 at a time. Funny though, I made an extra 1000 selling them their own coins, when they thought the price was going high. Well it is, but I am not an idiot, I will keep buying while they are low. I don't want to cut myself short and I have more buying power than them. lol.

The above one is bad, you can barely read the CAP even while zoomed in.

I like the cup one... (One that looked like the logo, without being the logo, as an outline would be best.)

The logo, I was thinking would look cool morphing from the "CAP" letters, into the "CUP LOGO", then into an artistic logo of just a "CUP", with "CAP" formed as the design on the cream in the cup.... Looping infinitely as it zooms back to the letters and the cup fades away.

I'll work on the animation, just because it is the coolest option we have so far. (Compared to bottlecaps.) Which has, at least four approvals or non-rejects. Tongue

I just have to hook my other computer up to my old monitor. Ug, CRT's... The price I pay for this coin! lol.

Remember, YOU don't have to have a use for this coin yet... But someone does. Like I said, you want cash for your coin, in the form of giftcards, I'll buy them, for your coin. Since it is still a profit to mine at 600% at these prices, and people are mining it and cashing-out... the price will have a hard time rising until they earn less. (Until more miners come back.) Unfortunately, Multi seems to have disabled the coin from multi-pool, by ignoring the price. That is thousands of miners not mining, who are also not holding some of the coins debt. Not sure if that is by request, or because he chokes on the fast diff adjustments and can't move away fast enough, once the diff changes.

Coffee was just an idea for promotion. Like BTC-coins were for BTC.

I am just waiting for my falling-value BTC to get to the market, so I can trade again. Arg, BTC takes forever to confirm!

I find joy in knowing that they are selling CAPs at 1000x under high, but rising, for a coin that is falling. Then they come back and buy more higher-priced caps 100% increase, with the BTC that just fell 100%. lol. Stupid bots.
legendary
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The above one is bad, you can barely read the CAP even while zoomed in.
member
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Could you do one: Red circle with  'CAP'  in white letters?    ex: (CAP)  (No selection here for white letters...)
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Not easy to make 3 characters readable within a circle when it has to fit within the space of one character. Anyway, here is my attempt at your request:


Coin note: I like the way the diff adjusts.  I think its the best solution to combat profit hopping pools.

The CAP diff algo is quite stable (no wild oscillation), but its quality is also its curse.

When the price was higher, CAP was among the most stable to mine for the coinwarz/coinchoose followers. I remember how BitJohn was happy about it in the Cryptsy chatbox  Cheesy... but once mine/dump got automated, the constant selling pressure became too strong.

Time and time again we have seen CAP to be good for mining/dumping at any price, down to a limit that we might have reach recently.

Sadly, I believe this will repeat as soon CAP come out of the abyss.




legendary
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BTC going down, time to buy CAP.
hero member
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Buy your CAP now, Buy buy buy... before BTC crashes and CAP coin rises through the roof... well... back to half what it was a few months ago... That's like 500% gain! (Or if you had high-positions, that reduces your losses until I can get this all sorted-out with the shops.)

That is, if you didn't get your BTC locked-up at $380, expecting it to rise again. Tongue

Stick those selling themselves short on CAPs, with the falling BTC. lol. They'll never sell for less again!
hero member
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What can I say, with the logo ect, it stands out, much like Bottlecaps do.  Last thing I want Caps to do is follow the altcoin trend to look like everything else out there.
hero member
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Those are some cool looking Cup/Cap logos.  I could get behind the Cappuccino movement.

Yes, jump on the bandwagon!

lol

I'll send you a free cup if you support me for president... Even though I didn't think of the idea. Tongue

Screw the tea-party, this is a CAP-Party!
hero member
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Those are some cool looking Cup/Cap logos.  I could get behind the Cappuccino movement.
hero member
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Again, On this computer I am limited... This is just CAP as the logo itself... Just the letter silhouette.

Honestly, I do 3D art for money... lol. You wouldn't know it by these scratch-mouse drawings. I need my tablet and my real art programs running.



Not sure it would look good pulled into a circle.

The coffee is just a logo, like "feather" and "Java", and "Apple"... it is a branding. Few coin names have anything to do with what they are. Thus the plural, "Cappuccinos", not just "Cappuccino"... Implying it is its own thing. Cap for short, or caps...

Once the website is up... after a name-change is determined, if it is determined... Everything will be explained in full. Clearly. Wink

Honestly, if you just called it a digital-check... no-one would invest. They would just think it is a thing, like a transfer-medium. (Well, that is all a coin actually is. But with trades. But the coin itself is just a medium, not a trader itself. Nor is it a company. But it does have a use for a branding.)

With all the "good" names taken, and being stereotypical... We have no choice but to reach out of the box, or make it complex and unrememberable.

Bottlecaps is memorable, but now I have others who don't trade, who I just asked randomly, say it sounds cheap. They all liked Cappuccinos as a name. (But they also liked calling them caps too.)
newbie
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YOU might see your images, we see ads for lego deathstars...
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Look closely at the prices of the lego deathstars, you will see USD, Bitcoin and the "brand under test"  Wink

I did choose purposely an unrelated toy. Just to get the feel for the brand as a general purpose currency.

Let me know how you feel about it. Thanks.

Could you do one: Red circle with  'CAP'  in white letters?    ex: (CAP)  (No selection here for white letters...)

eBit made a good point.  CAP is simple.  CAPcoin or CAPcurrency are the most marketable solutions.

We're not selling coffee...  I like the design and I see what you did there (good job) but it just doesn't relate to crypto.


Coin note: I like the way the diff adjusts.  I think its the best solution to combat profit hopping pools.
hero member
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Oh... lol.. I was like... what?

This is what I was thinking for a logo... (Brand logo) Sorry it is on a cheap paint program. My other stuff is on the other OS.



The logo's both say CAP in the logo, as the cup...

This would have come out better with my vector art program. Tongue But online paint was all I had, and a ball-mouse to draw freehand. It was the concept I was going for. Enough of a logo to disappear as a true cup, and still be "known"... EG, drawing it as the coffee-cup without the breaks that make the logo, for an icon or just a logo itself.

Slogans...

Cappucchinos: (Coffee, Beans, Caps, Grounds)
- "Get your fill of caps, stimulate the economy."
- "Top off your caps today, one cap is never enough."
- "Fast, hot, and easy to hold."
- "The only bean you mine."
- "Best way to wake someone up, is to give them some caps."
member
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YOU might see your images, we see ads for lego deathstars...
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Look closely at the prices of the lego deathstars, you will see USD, Bitcoin and the "brand under test"  Wink

I did choose purposely an unrelated toy. Just to get the feel for the brand as a general purpose currency.

Let me know how you feel about it. Thanks.
hero member
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lol... lego deathstar...

I think you need a new image host... YOU might see your images, we see ads for lego deathstars...

Though, your wording of what the logo's look like are visual enough to get the idea. I have a few thoughts in my head also, but all my art programs are on my other disk partition.

Yea, starbucks and dunkin-doughnuts would be a far-stretch... but there are a lot of smaller coffee-shops that want something like a starbucks card, or a dunkin-doughnuts card, that is semi-universal. (EG, not just used at the small mom-n-pop-shop.)

I found some decent flavored coffee that can be purchased for about $6.50/lb, which is fresh-bean. Both mild-roast and deep-roast. On the upper end, there were a few that were freaking awesome, but they cost about $12-16/lb. The best bean I ever had cost almost $85/lb. But like I said... I could sell it at a loss, and still make money with CAP. Just because once it starts selling, those CAP's will be purchased and swiped-up from the exchange, or never listed on the exchange, since they will be used to buy things. Thus, the sell value will rise, making the ones I sold at a loss for, not be a loss now. (Unlike just buying coins, which has less of an impact.)
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Name is one thing, but I wanted to a get a feel of the brand when used.

I did stitch a few common icons (from font-awesome) on top of Amazon (Edit: Look for the red prices in USD+Bitcoin+"Cap Branding" side by side).

Example with Cappuccino:


Example with BottleCap:


Example with a generic coin (not sure for CapCoin branding, so I went with the intent of keeping it simple):


For CapCoin, a letter with double-bar is likely a better fit, but I did not had time to put much thought into it (may be just adding two short bars within this coin icon will do... like euro but with the E closed into a circle). Edit: I did update with what could be a minimalist CapCoin icon.





legendary
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so why not go with CapCoin? We could suggest names for ever but pretty much achieve nothing like this.
I think we have some time on our hands because mullick is not available right now to do the poll.

I suggest to mullick to put to vote only names that had at least a thumb up from two other members.

Personally, I am now warming back to a bold branding (Cappuccino with coffee cup symbol) versus a conservative choice (CapCoin), so a couple more days might help. Might just be me waking up and needing a coffee...

There are other members of the CAP foundation that could do the same.
Where's BitJohn?
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