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Topic: Bought BTC on PayPal and got scammed, please HELP! (Read 1777 times)

hero member
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Goodluck getting your money back but I don't think it will be back because even if paypal do ask him questions, he can lie and turn things in favor of him, the scammer. There is still a chance though that you would get your money back so I guess paypal will protect you. Next time make sure that the person you are transacting with is trustworthy and has many successful trades before buying btc on paypal from him/her.
jr. member
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You can actually dispute this kind of transaction because you use mode of payment as goods. Just don't tell to the support that you use it to buy bitcoin because it will fall to digital goods which is no dispute. Just tell that you bought some goods and it didn't arrive to yoo. No need for screen shot to present.

Just for clarification, paypal DOES cover digital goods i read about it somewhere on their policy changes afew months ago. However I do not know how they will handle bitcoin transactions. Forums all over consider paypal an outcast and I would think for good reason, its enough for me to avoid paypal like the plague for selling btc.

Declaring as goods was definitely a big mistake cos the onus is on you to show delivery and that counts as courier proof not blockchain screenshots. I think declaring as services now is safer then declaring as goods as you no longer need to show as much detailed proof as you did for goods. Goods can also be refunded when a user declares did not get it in the correct state which for services declared as goods is a default chargeback.
member
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World Mobile Coin
I've send a payment as goods and services, he blocked me, and then I opened a dispute like 30 minutes later!
He was sending messages that PayPal doesn't cover digital goods.

I've called PayPal and said it was a physical good.
They said they will ask him questions.

Is he going to successfully scam me or PayPal will protect me?
I don't have screenshots, logs of conversations, nothing!
Will PayPal still protects me?

I think paypal will protect you. But for future, avoid using paypal for any currency exchange transaction, if you can. I think Paypal do not like currency exchanger. Used to exchange OKPay a few years ago. Took almost 3 weeks to resolve the problem.
sr. member
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I don't have alot of experience with disputes for digital goods for paypal but always make sure you're trading with a trusted member (100+ succesful trades) or use an escrow. You should always use an escrow when trading btc. I hope you get your money back.
legendary
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if uou used credit card, you have chance that your fund back to your account.

That's what I would do. Call your credit card company, explain what you tried to buy and that they never sent it so it needs to be charged back. The good thing is you have leverage with them. If they say they can't help you you just say you'll have to cancel your card then.
sr. member
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Merit: 255
I don't like Paypal , they require lot of 'stupid' terms . For example I had a online website with cd keys with games . Every day I was getting chargebacks on Paypal .
Also if you are trying to cash out , you can max cash out 2500$ per year or you have to give them photos with your identity
hero member
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Merit: 534
I don't trust paypal and that's why I trade using bitcoins. I won't blame paypal but the reversible system is not as full proof as escrow service so when it comes to deal on the internet, it is advised to avoid reversible payment methods. Payments on paypal are reversible even after several weeks so it is very risky to go with it. I hope paypal will understand your side and take necessary action but I don't think they will do so.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
i am don(ripper's big daddy).i clean scammers.
*snip*

What ever transaction made in paypal through bitcoin do not cover any protection to users , so it means that you wont get goods and the payment sent is gone for ever. Be careful when using paypal as their are lot of ways to scam anyone in paypal.

Safe your energy you can explain this 100 times a day and people will still not listen and ignore all the warnings, how many times respected members here, have warned newbies or other members about paypal 100 times is not enough, and still they ignore the warning and do the deal and when it's too late they come here and cry..

@op all you can do now is to tell paypal the true story and maybe you will be lucky not lie to them it will just decrease your chances to win the dispute!
legendary
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I've send a payment as goods and services, he blocked me, and then I opened a dispute like 30 minutes later!
He was sending messages that PayPal doesn't cover digital goods.

I've called PayPal and said it was a physical good.
They said they will ask him questions.

Is he going to successfully scam me or PayPal will protect me?
I don't have screenshots, logs of conversations, nothing!
Will PayPal still protects me?

What ever transaction made in paypal through bitcoin do not cover any protection to users , so it means that you wont get goods and the payment sent is gone for ever. Be careful when using paypal as their are lot of ways to scam anyone in paypal.
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 255
I've send a payment as goods and services, he blocked me, and then I opened a dispute like 30 minutes later!
He was sending messages that PayPal doesn't cover digital goods.

I've called PayPal and said it was a physical good.
They said they will ask him questions.

Is he going to successfully scam me or PayPal will protect me?
I don't have screenshots, logs of conversations, nothing!
Will PayPal still protects me?
To be honest I think the scammer got you, I know it is not very reassuring but we must be extremely careful when dealing with bitcoin especially if you are going to exchange it for paypal or similar payment methods.
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 269
That is why we have to be very careful with the way we go into anonymous transactions like bitcoin and others crypto currencies. PayPal may not do follow up and refund your money if you did not provide screen charts. PayPal has terms and conditions and since you cannot really provide them with verified evidence it might be difficult for you to get you bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 501
Hackers please hack me .... if you can :)
I've send a payment as goods and services, he blocked me, and then I opened a dispute like 30 minutes later!
He was sending messages that PayPal doesn't cover digital goods.

I've called PayPal and said it was a physical good.
They said they will ask him questions.

Is he going to successfully scam me or PayPal will protect me?
I don't have screenshots, logs of conversations, nothing!
Will PayPal still protects me?

There was a way to get your money back through Paypal. You would have need to tell to Paypal support that it was an unauthorized transaction and they would have send the money back to you. This was a lesson to learn for you to never use Paypal to buy bitcoin ever again.

You rushed to call Paypal without being prepared to fight the scammer back. With Paypal it is easy to fight the scammers , you just have to be creative.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 508
how can i buy btc with paypal?
i thought paypal is the big rival of the BTC

tell me pls

you can find someone in currency exchange section if they are willing to sell their bitcoin to paypal but take note, most members here don't trust newbies like you when talking about reversible payment method.

alternatively, you can try using https://www.virwox.com/
newbie
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how can i buy btc with paypal?
i thought paypal is the big rival of the BTC

tell me pls
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
damn hate thoose paypal people Sad
hero member
Activity: 1946
Merit: 502
I've send a payment as goods and services, he blocked me, and then I opened a dispute like 30 minutes later!
He was sending messages that PayPal doesn't cover digital goods.

I've called PayPal and said it was a physical good.
They said they will ask him questions.

Is he going to successfully scam me or PayPal will protect me?
I don't have screenshots, logs of conversations, nothing!
Will PayPal still protects me?
Next time use escrow in making transcations to someone you dont know.it will lessen the risk of getting scammed. Maybe you learned a lesson on what have just happned to you.
member
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Merit: 10
if uou used credit card, you have chance that your fund back to your account.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 501
It is very unfortunate that you trust an individual and in using PayPal at that. PayPal is not yet that friendly with Bitcoin, we have to always remember that. I think there are more trustworthy exchangers out there that help you with your Paypal funds to be converted to Bitcoin. Right now, you are at the mercy of Paypal and the one who scammed you. Hope you can soon recover your hard-earned money.

This is a big lesson to all of us. Never ever trust a person unless you have already transacted with the guy many times and he has a good reputation also with other buyers/clients.
hero member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 521
7enius - Your Cryptocurrency Marketing Consultant
Which may make your situation bad is because you have no evidence including proof of conversation, and it is quite strange how you conduct online transactions without any evidence of a conversation. Do not ever tell the PayPal if this transaction is to buy bitcoin because the situation could get worse for you, in future better to careful in online transaction using PayPal.
sr. member
Activity: 545
Merit: 250
Colletrix - Bridging the Physical and Virtual Worl
You can actually dispute this kind of transaction because you use mode of payment as goods. Just don't tell to the support that you use it to buy bitcoin because it will fall to digital goods which is no dispute. Just tell that you bought some goods and it didn't arrive to yoo. No need for screen shot to present.
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