Topic: Bounty for the MyBitcoin.com hacker (~25BTC) - page 3. (Read 9289 times)

I would prefer Bruce Willis hold the bounty $

LOL

I think educating people about personal security is more useful than foisting wallets on a centralized service right now.

No.

I can't have papers served to an appearance on The Bitcoin Show. BitBills.com has no contact information other than a nebulous '[email protected]'. They are absolutely not one bit different than MBC in this regard. They have a Free SSL that has zero information about the company.

Compare:
CN = bitbills.com
OU = Free SSL
OU = Domain Control Validated


with
CN = store.apple.com
OU = IS&T Apple Online Store Engineering
O = Apple Inc.
STREET = 1 Infinite Loop
L = Cupertino
S = California
PostalCode = 95014
C = US
SERIALNUMBER = C0806592
2.5.4.15 = V1.0, Clause 5.(b)
1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.2 = California
1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.3 = US

or

CN = www.paypal.com
OU = PayPal Production
O = PayPal, Inc.
STREET = 2211 N 1st St
L = San Jose
S = California
PostalCode = 95131-2021
C = US
SERIALNUMBER = 3014267
2.5.4.15 = Private Organization
1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.2 = Delaware
1.3.6.1.4.1.311.60.2.1.3 = US


If you want me to trust you with bitcoins, then expend the $700 and get a real SSL cert. If you can't afford that, you likely can't afford any of the other security measures required to keep my login information, let alone my bitcoins, safe. Again people, somebody appearing on a streaming video on the internet != trust or credibility. If this community continues to fail in treating bitcoin like real money then no one else will either.

The owner of BitBills appeared in person on The Bitcoin Show, and talked to Bruce, in person, about his BitBills business. Does that count?

They do make a profit off of BitBills though, so why would they just take everyone's money now and never see another dime when they could keep receiving money by just giving us legitimate BitBills, and NOT taking the money, while also NOT storing the private keys.

My bounty of 5 BTC has been transferred to an offline, backed-up wallet:

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EK58cmwLQ3BA4N2Afn8dGqxNsNsNtGJ93

Yes, I saw that MyBitcoin is back up. I'm not convinced this is settled yet though; I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude and leaving the bounty out for now.

I debated stating I trust exactly 0 persons because I could screw up my own bitcoins any time. At least I generally know where to find me. So when I need a single throat to choke, I don't have to reach far.

That said, this thread seems to exemplify the bitcoin community's insatiable desire to lose their money. Only westkybitcoins has proposed an idea that has a modicum of sense to it.

Look people, how many times does this have to be said: Bitcoins are like cash.

How many of you would send $100 in cash to Bruce Wagner to "hold" for you? Nothing against Bruce personally, he's just the most public face and seems to get the most benefit of the doubt. And it's astounding to me that people would send cash to a guy they know only from a forum and some streaming videos to "hold" cash for them. Look, I have good friends that I've known for years. I can walk to their home and have had dinner with their wife and kids. I would not give cash to these people and I will see them every week. People on this forum talk lightly of sending cash to a guy in New York City who has recently lost a quarter million dollars in value due to lack of due diligence. Nothing against Bruce but this is the guy you want to "hold" your cash?
Seriously, until this community starts treating Bitcoin like real money, no one outside this community will. I have a lot of faith in the technology and architecture of Bitcoin, but I have no faith in the community of people that have grown up around it. It's like a collection of lottery winners who don't respect the money they have come into and are broke again in 2 years.

I would have hoped that after the mybitcoin debacle we would have learned a lesson. Unfortunately, I suspect this kind of thing will just rinse and repeat.

Do you trust BitBills, as much as you trusted MyBitcoin? Do you realize that if they store private keys of the cards (and there is no way to know), they can easily access ALL money on ALL the cards they produced? Do you know BitBills owner with his real name, address, phone number and verified it?

Also, I'll probably be dropping some bitchange to that address on occasion, so it will likely end up with a couple of bitcoins more.

You have it much better than I do, I got one less

*sigh*

I don't believe you people.




Why? What possible advantage does that have, as opposed to everyone publicly committing to the bounty and pointing to the address where the money is held, that makes it a "have to?"

For the record, I'll publicly commit 5 BTC to the first person to publicly out the true identity of Tom Williams. It must be verifiable, and in general, if the public accepts the proof, I'll accept it. I'll need some time to setup an offline wallet to store the funds, and provide an address that can be checked on blockexplorer.

My portion of the bounty is good until December 31, 2011, 11:59:59pm EST. (I don't want to keep the funds in limbo forever.)

ya ok perfect that works

Someone engraved the card, right?
Bruce would better pick 64 random hexadecimal digit and get the corresponding Bitcoin address

A bank card is an offline generated public and private key, engraved on a metal card. No one has the wallet.dat file, since it never existed. After depositing money to the bank card, to get it out you have to scan the private key from the card and import it into a bitcoin wallet. The only way someone can steal bitcoin off of it is if Bruce has it on him, and gets mugged while walking around NY

Bounties?! So now it's official, Bitcoin IS the far-west 
Anyone has 2 6 shooter for sell? Or do I need to go fetch them at SR?

We could trust the priest below with the bounty, for he looks trustworthy. As for the sex sign, he told me it was a misprint. It was suppose to be Essex.

wait a second. not sure how the bitbill bank card works... does bitbill hold the wallet.dat? if so then we would have to trust them. is this the case?
maybe we should go for a simply offline wallet stored on a usb. this way we only have to trust Bruce.

Backup, triple!

Bruce Wagner is someone here. he's one of us.

I think hes the perfect candidate because we trust him, and if he ran away with the bounty money, we'd know where to find him.  

I believe the bitbill Bank Card is the best kind of security. just don't let anyone have access to it.

again i didn't lose any bitcoins in this ordeal, but it pissed me off hearing about it and i would add 1btc to the bounty.

the idea is having the bounty high enough so that the people close to the culprits provide information which lead to his capture or someone dose his own investigation to win the bounty

 
 

Obviously we are talking about an investigation pool. Bounty shouldn't be the word that we should frame this money as. We just want justice as a community, and want Tom Williams to at-least explain to us what happened. All we have is a signed pgp message and a flaky explanation. But yes I am all for donating to the investigation of the case of Tom Williams and MyBitcoin.