Topic: [Bounty] New GPU Miner - Scrypter (Read 3680 times)

KDE is far more user-friendly than Mac/Windows.

Linux isn't user friendly but once you start and get the hang of the basics, you'll never go back, for mining that is.  It's so easy to just pull up a master ssh window from my windows pc and control all my mining rigs at once, literally.  No dicking around with windows bs.  

It's not a new OS, it's an old one. It's not even a new distribution, nor is it being actively developed. You're accusing me of trying to "make a quick buck"? Idiot... Perhaps if you had as much reading comprehension as you do self-righteous anger, you'd understand what I posted the bounty for. Where the hell is your contribution Mr. 9 posts?  Where is your effort to do anything for someone besides yourself?

Let me break it down for you. I put up money, not a fortune, but certainly not insignificant, to help fund an OPEN SOURCE application that everyone, even you would be free to use. I asked for donations from the community to help encourage a developer to take the project seriously. No one, NOT ONE PERSON donated even a satoshi, or sent me a line of code. Nothing has been done by anyone, because the only thing that gets people moving on the forum is money. Everyone wants to take, users mostly want free mining software and developers mostly want to get paid. No... I was foolish to think that a community so focused on making money would ever spend a cent to help itself out.

As to Linux vs Windows.. really? You are going to sit there and preach that it's sooo much better of an OS and that people need to learn to use it, while at the same time asking questions because you can't figure it out yourself.


Linux is better at *some* things, Windows at others. I use Windows 8 only because 8 will let you run one more card than Win 7. The Metro/Modern UI is crap, but when I need to do something, I don't have to dick around on forums and spend useless hours trying (for example) to get a goddamn driver update. I just download the update, install it and it's ready to go. I use monitoring programs that are written for Windows. Plain and simple, Linux is not in anyway user friendly. It's continued reliance on the damned CLI after 20+ years of GUIs is the exact problem. Even BIOS FFS has moved on to GUIs. Commodore, yes Commodore from the 80's had a GUI developed for it (GEOS). But Linux...no, the CLI is superior -- except it's not; it's obsolete.

You know the one thing, the very one thing I don't have to do on Windows, well almost never? Build from source. I don't have to worry about endless dependencies, or if I have the right build environment, with the right version of GCC. Programmers don't automatically expect everyone to build a windows app from source. Does it make sense for a thousand people to waste time building the same application over and over, or just one person to do it? I *do* know how to use Linux, and I don't. Even knowing how to use it, how to install git, download the source, and build applications. That's the problem with Linux, it wastes my fucking time. It's wasting my time right now, trying to convince an arrogant douche that he's wrong. It's pointless really, so I won't bother any more.


For every good intentioned person that genuinely wants to help, there are ten more that just want to take the entire tray of free samples and keep walking. Here, not even the good intentioned people are actually helping. I see now there is little point in even giving it another week; so, the bounty is officially closed.

If any serious developer out there is interested in building a new client, get in touch with me via PM. It will be contracted work. You must reside in the continental US, be willing to sign an NDA & Non-compete, and have a realistic estimate on time/price to complete the work.

This is a new OS and of course it will not be perfect right out of the box. If people like you tried helping the opensource community maybe the OS would have more features you want. Instead of trying to use a bounty that is really not a lot and wasting time taking on a Project by your self. How is working by your self more efficient than a open source team? Hello World, Linux is by far an easier system to use once you know how, not to mention is less destructive on your HDD. Some of you hacks would know that if you would break the Microsoft umbilical and learn how to use a computer. Please go on telling me more about how you use Windows 8 an OS for touch devices not geared at all for mining and how this is better than a OS that is always being developed for for mining only? Start emailing the team developing the OS and tell them what you want, hell give them your donation!

Voltage locked cards must be volt modded through bios editing.

SMOS is built with old drivers on a PITA to use platform. I tried SMOS 3 times, it hashed slower, I had more problems remote viewing the machine unless I wanted just SSH, but wtf this isn't 1996 anymore. The only advantage in using linux over Win 8 was being able to use more than 5 cards, and possible the cost. For the trouble, I'll stick with 5 cards per machine (some have gotten 6), and pay the price for the O/S. It's so much less of a headache, and my control over the cards and the machine is much more refined.


I've had two people express serious interest, but in over a month nothing has come of this. Like most people, I have my own problems to deal with outside the forum, and chasing this down isn't at the top of my list. I put up some money, and went to the community for help, an nobody, not one person actually offered a damn dime to help support it. Bunch of greedy bastards. All the money that's being made using CGMiner for Scrypt, and not one of you has actually sent a donation, or even pledged $1 to a project that aims improve your software and your income. I wonder how many of you would be happy to test it out and then use it for free though?

With that said, the deadline is now 2/11. If I don't get a serious submission within a week, I'm withdrawing my bounty.

good topic. you should find a a trusted person and have people send donation there. that why if no one comes forth we could get or money back

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2411598

Looks like linux (SMOS) is an OS dedicated to scrypt mining. I think this might be a good place to start, at least everyone collaborating in the right place will push development of better mining software. [Death to Microsoft]

I use CGMiner 3.7.2, the last version to support GPUs. I had been considering trying BFGMiner, but seeing the developer's attitude towards Scrypt, altcoins, and GPU mining, it can rot as far as I'm concerned. At least CG had the decency to admit they weren't supporting GPUs anymore and move on. Luke's attitude is to claim support for it, put zero development into it, turn it off by default, then attack others for trying to start their own program.

Curious....

Which miner is considered superior by miners, bfgminer or cgminer?

No, 'waiting for opencl 2.0' would be a complete waste of time. Khronos group released the preliminary specs (still under review and discussion) less than 6 months ago iirc and we have no opencl 2.0 devices in the wild, except for the ps4 which might theoretically support some of it...


Anyways, a decent scrypt specific miner is something I've wanted for a very long time so I will definitely donate ASAP.

Development can start with existing software and build out from there, including adding OpenCL support 2.0 at a later time. There is no reason not to start today.

I think its better to wait for OpenCL 2.0

Everyone would love to see their favorite platform/GPU/coin supported. That said, I have yet to receive a single donation to the bounty. Lots hands out asking for things, no hands out offering help.

Maybe the issue is people are worried their donation will be lost if the bounty isn't met. To that end, if you want to donate, but want a refund if the bounty terms aren't met, PM me your donation amount and a refund address *before* you send your donation.

To be clear, you will only receive a refund on your donation if the bounty is closed without having been fulfilled.

But then I would never see it since I never go to osx threads 

However, you are completely correct.

Please send me a PM sibilant_doge and I might be able to get you running.

Guys, please use a dedicated topic for OSX troubleshooting.  

Did you receive an error when trying to install the drivers?

Apparently, only the beta drivers can be installed without the common bootcamp driver error popping up. I would suggest something like 12.6 beta for a test, I don't think there's much reason to run anything more current for the 6xxx series.


*** can't remember if that includes AMD APP...Hmmm. I'll do some digging.

What do you mean nonexistent in bootcamp? The opencl version you require should be installed by the AMD drivers automatically (AMD APP).

Anyways, I have heard of some issues arising with the osx versions of the luxmark slg rendering engine, though I think amd and apple have either resolved or will resolve all of them shortly since they are preparing for the new AMD gpu powered workstations.


I didn't mean you specifically, more those that have an interest in mining within OSX in general. Seems to be a decent amount of people who would probably take interest and hopefully expedite development for all the operating systems.  

What about your VRMs? Motherboard temps? Mining with that system is most likely going to considerably shorten the life of your intel laptop mobile formfactor desktop.

That said, osx support wouldn't be all that difficult, though I think donations would be in order if you don't want to use the windows version for whatever reason.  


The various Linux flavors have a decently sized and technically-inclined mining userbase, that would be another good one to include.

Luke Jr. is almost completely delusional. His belief that scrypt is an invalid PoW algorithm is the least insane of his beliefs. Strange how he has enough time on his hands to concern himself with this 'invalid' PoW and related 'scam' coins...


Keeping away from his hostile little cgminer fork is best for basically everyone except his BFL buddies.