[BOUNTY] VNL - Vanillacoin - ZeroTime double-spend reward - page 2.

traumschiff

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Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 05:49:58 PM

Quote from: traumschiff on August 12, 2015, 05:45:10 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Hey blobafett2, did you actually look at VNL's copied code where they took Bitcoin's code, removed the attribution and copyright notices, slightly reformatted it, and claimed it was their own work?

Or is everything in altcoin land all about your personal vendetta against me, and you couldn't care less what scumbag behavior goes on, including blatantly ripping off Bitcoin?

Quote from: rnicoll on August 12, 2015, 03:38:29 PM

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

It's a C++11 reinventing of crypto (if you want to point an existing crypto out, atleast point to Peercoin).

That's a marketing slogan that factually is a load of shit.

The code is copied, from Bitcoin. Reformatted, with attributions removed in violation of the copyright and as misrepresentation. Just exactly as gmaxwell said six months ago, except looking at current code today it is the same thing.

Anyone with any programming knowledge can look at the above links and confirm.

Poloniex did and they didn't confirm.

Oh.... Thought your AEON is on Poloniex.... sorry. #rekt

smooth

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Quote from: traumschiff on August 12, 2015, 05:45:10 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Hey blobafett2, did you actually look at VNL's copied code where they took Bitcoin's code, removed the attribution and copyright notices, slightly reformatted it, and claimed it was their own work?

Or is everything in altcoin land all about your personal vendetta against me, and you couldn't care less what scumbag behavior goes on, including blatantly ripping off Bitcoin?

Quote from: rnicoll on August 12, 2015, 03:38:29 PM

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

It's a C++11 reinventing of crypto (if you want to point an existing crypto out, atleast point to Peercoin).

That's a marketing slogan that factually is a load of shit.

The code is copied, from Bitcoin. Reformatted, with attributions removed in violation of the copyright and as misrepresentation. Just exactly as gmaxwell said six months ago, except looking at current code today it is the same thing.

Anyone with any programming knowledge can look at the above links and confirm.

traumschiff

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Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Hey blobafett2, did you actually look at VNL's copied code where they took Bitcoin's code, removed the attribution and copyright notices, slightly reformatted it, and claimed it was their own work?

Or is everything in altcoin land all about your personal vendetta against me, and you couldn't care less what scumbag behavior goes on, including blatantly ripping off Bitcoin?

Quote from: rnicoll on August 12, 2015, 03:38:29 PM

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

It's a C++11 reinventing of crypto (if you want to point an existing crypto out, atleast point to Peercoin).

Also please match the way the mempool works and the whole communication protocol.

smooth

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Quote from: traumschiff on August 12, 2015, 05:41:25 PM

Necroing something thats half a year old as his main argument for trolling...

There is nothing a half a year old in those github links showing copied code. Those are current links. Which means the supposedly 'necroed' points made a half a year ago are still accurate and still valid, if not more so.

smooth

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Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:38:40 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Hey blobafett2, did you actually look at VNL's copied code where they took Bitcoin's code, removed the attribution and copyright notices, slightly reformatted it, and claimed it was their own work?

Or is everything in altcoin land all about your personal vendetta against me, and you couldn't care less what scumbag behavior goes on, including blatantly ripping off Bitcoin?

Quote from: rnicoll on August 12, 2015, 03:38:29 PM

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

I am not here to assess the validity of any particular coin. I am investigating you, as a core dev who actively trolls all of his competitors, daily.

Not even close to all. But if you are ~~investigating~~ stalking me, and not this coin, then your posts on this thread are by your own admission 100% off topic. Please stop.

traumschiff

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Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 03:30:49 PM

Quote from: solid12345 on August 12, 2015, 02:46:32 PM

Quote from: jimlite on August 12, 2015, 12:20:56 PM

Is the Nick Szabo comment a joke, a guess, or for real?

He's been widely suspected as being Satoshi for years, its nothing new. I mean the similarities of Bitgold and BTC are uncanny.

Anyone could have read about bitgold and been inspired to create Bitcoin. It doesn't have to be Szabo.

I've been told by someone who seems to know something that Szabo isn't Satoshi. Take that for what it's worth (not much, as presented).

Personally I rate Szabo as a likely candidate to have been involved in some manner. Some recent developments make that more likely IMO. No I won't elaborate. Do your own research. (It does not involve "john-connor".)

Hi VNL community,

I did a tally of Smooth's attacks on his competitors today and notice him attacking VNL.

Attacking his competitors:

Dash thread: 26 posts (competing with the anon feature)
Vanilla threads: 20 posts (competing for Poloniex volume)
Bytecoin thread: 4 posts (competing "Anon coin")

Posting on his own threads:

AEON: 3 posts
Monero: 0 posts

Smooth's competitors attacking his coins on their threads:

Dash devs: 0 posts
Vanilla devs: 0 posts
Bytecoin devs: 0 posts

I made a thread to investigate Smooth after months of attacking his competitors and also attempting / succeeding to take over his competitors as developer, please feel free to vote whether you think his actions are ethical / professional / not in conflict of interest.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565

I saw the same in his post history, but don't crush his dreamworld please, not sure if he can cope with the thought of being a troll. Necroing something thats half a year old as his main argument for trolling...

blobafett2

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Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Hey blobafett2, did you actually look at VNL's copied code where they took Bitcoin's code, removed the attribution and copyright notices, slightly reformatted it, and claimed it was their own work?

Or is everything in altcoin land all about your personal vendetta against me, and you couldn't care less what scumbag behavior goes on, including blatantly ripping off Bitcoin?

Quote from: rnicoll on August 12, 2015, 03:38:29 PM

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

I am not here to assess the validity of any particular coin. I am investigating you, as a core dev who actively trolls all of his competitors, daily.

smooth

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Quote from: blobafett2 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:44 PM

Hey blobafett2, did you actually look at VNL's copied code where they took Bitcoin's code, removed the attribution and copyright notices, slightly reformatted it, and claimed it was their own work?

Or is everything in altcoin land all about your personal vendetta against me, and you couldn't care less what scumbag behavior goes on, including blatantly ripping off Bitcoin?

Quote from: rnicoll on August 12, 2015, 03:38:29 PM

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

blobafett2

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Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 03:30:49 PM

Quote from: solid12345 on August 12, 2015, 02:46:32 PM

Quote from: jimlite on August 12, 2015, 12:20:56 PM

Is the Nick Szabo comment a joke, a guess, or for real?

He's been widely suspected as being Satoshi for years, its nothing new. I mean the similarities of Bitgold and BTC are uncanny.

Anyone could have read about bitgold and been inspired to create Bitcoin. It doesn't have to be Szabo.

I've been told by someone who seems to know something that Szabo isn't Satoshi. Take that for what it's worth (not much, as presented).

Personally I rate Szabo as a likely candidate to have been involved in some manner. Some recent developments make that more likely IMO. No I won't elaborate. Do your own research. (It does not involve "john-connor".)

Hi VNL community,

I did a tally of Smooth's attacks on his competitors today and notice him attacking VNL.

Attacking his competitors:

Dash thread: 26 posts (competing with the anon feature)
Vanilla threads: 20 posts (competing for Poloniex volume)
Bytecoin thread: 4 posts (competing "Anon coin")

Posting on his own threads:

AEON: 3 posts
Monero: 0 posts

Smooth's competitors attacking his coins on their threads:

Dash devs: 0 posts
Vanilla devs: 0 posts
Bytecoin devs: 0 posts

I made a thread to investigate Smooth after months of attacking his competitors and also attempting / succeeding to take over his competitors as developer, please feel free to vote whether you think his actions are ethical / professional / not in conflict of interest.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmraeon-developer-smooth-investigation-1151565

YAdaminer

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Quote from: P-Funk on August 12, 2015, 12:03:26 PM

Quote from: YAdaminer on August 12, 2015, 03:02:50 AM

Quote from: P-Funk on August 12, 2015, 02:28:24 AM

I wouldn't trust in the possibility of a bounty unless it was held by a third party escrow.

Well, this would be a right question for this thread when it wouldn't start with "I wouldn't trust..."
In this form from newbie account means nothing but just another FUD post.

A newbie account registered before yours. Newbie Wink

On comment like this I can only say, carpe diem. Newbie

smooth

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Quote from: solid12345 on August 12, 2015, 02:46:32 PM

Quote from: jimlite on August 12, 2015, 12:20:56 PM

Is the Nick Szabo comment a joke, a guess, or for real?

He's been widely suspected as being Satoshi for years, its nothing new. I mean the similarities of Bitgold and BTC are uncanny.

Anyone could have read about bitgold and been inspired to create Bitcoin. It doesn't have to be Szabo.

I've been told by someone who seems to know something that Szabo isn't Satoshi. Take that for what it's worth (not much, as presented).

Personally I rate Szabo as a likely candidate to have been involved in some manner. Some recent developments make that more likely IMO. No I won't elaborate. Do your own research. (It does not involve "john-connor".)

brownmon

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Quote from: traumschiff on August 12, 2015, 04:44:05 AM

Quote from: smooth on August 11, 2015, 11:18:39 PM

(I believe it is no longer the case that the source is not available, but I'm not positive.)

Why do you even comment without doing your research? You are no better than the 0 activity trolls in most threads.

The project is open source, google: vanillacoin + github

Was it hard?

I believe the zero-time code is not yet open-source, right?

jimlite

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Quote from: solid12345 on August 12, 2015, 02:46:32 PM

Quote from: jimlite on August 12, 2015, 12:20:56 PM

Is the Nick Szabo comment a joke, a guess, or for real?

He's been widely suspected as being Satoshi for years, its nothing new. I mean the similarities of Bitgold and BTC are uncanny.

Then why does Newsweek chase an old Japanese guy, lol. My guess is that S.N. is a group of coders, Nick being one of them. Who knows, maybe John is one of them.

solid12345

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Quote from: jimlite on August 12, 2015, 12:20:56 PM

Is the Nick Szabo comment a joke, a guess, or for real?

He's been widely suspected as being Satoshi for years, its nothing new. I mean the similarities of Bitgold and BTC are uncanny.

jimlite

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Is the Nick Szabo comment a joke, a guess, or for real?

P-Funk

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Quote from: YAdaminer on August 12, 2015, 03:02:50 AM

Quote from: P-Funk on August 12, 2015, 02:28:24 AM

I wouldn't trust in the possibility of a bounty unless it was held by a third party escrow.

Well, this would be a right question for this thread when it wouldn't start with "I wouldn't trust..."
In this form from newbie account means nothing but just another FUD post.

A newbie account registered before yours. Newbie Wink

sempyper

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in celebration of john-connors ownage on these peasants, i might buy some more vnl

nextgencoin

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I'm pretty sure John Conner just answered his critics...

x0rcist

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Quote from: smooth on August 12, 2015, 07:19:52 AM

You can still get real audits, reviews, and advice from experts. You just have to either pay them real money (which to qualified people a bounty of $2100 in would-be-worthless-upon-success coins is not) or get them sufficiently interested in the project itself to want to be involved, not be a hired gun for slave wages.

I see neither happening here, just a stunt to say, "We had a bounty and no one could break it! BUY! BUY! BUY!"

Its not an audit its about finding an exploit, much ego words not many action.

~ When life is real, it's not going to be smooth.

smooth

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Quote from: solid12345 on August 12, 2015, 07:13:24 AM

Quote from: stoat on August 11, 2015, 06:29:49 AM

This coin is running on the Zero proof of proof algorithm.

Instead of this lame bounty why not pay for a security audit of the code cheapskate.

ah yes like the Shadowcash crew did, paid Isidor Zeuner a few grand for an audit whom we haven't heard high nor tail from for 6 months?

This is the problem with high level projects like VNL, anyone who is qualified to investigate its strengths or weaknesses usually has motives not to do so. This isn't exactly the University & Education sector around here, everyone has an agenda, even those on the Bitcoin mailing list.

You can still get real audits, reviews, and advice from experts. You just have to either pay them real money (which to qualified people a bounty of $2100 in would-be-worthless-upon-success coins is not) or get them sufficiently interested in the project itself to want to be involved, not be a hired gun for slave wages.

I see neither happening here, just a stunt to say, "We had a bounty and no one could break it! BUY! BUY! BUY!"

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