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He needs a tune-up fight before any championship fights because he's still feeling the first loss he had back then, he is not truly ready for it. But despite this, they wanted him to see a return to action against one of the best boxers at the time. most likely when things are not going to be in his way this time and he also loses this fight then the rematch against Crawford will no longer be possible because as we all know Crawford is going up and plans to defeat every opponent in his way which is more likely going to happen than Spence comeback fight against a champion.
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Errol is almost as soft as Devin Haney being exposed, all the time in their career they were just fighting low-level boxers playing numbers for their boxing records but when they are matched to someone just right where their skillset level, they fold in the ring.

Soft? In terms of what? He beat, Porter, Danny Garcia, Ugas all former champion. So I don't think that those boxers are low-level fighters in his resume. He also had Kell Brook beaten, go to UK and takes his belt. It's that Crawford is on a different level when they fought, Crawford's adjustment and boxing IQ really shows in that fight and Spence can't make any corrections by fly.

Fundora is also the same but after fighting Tszyu, he proved himself. I think Fundora will battle Spence to the ground.

What Fundora shows in that fight is that he had a big heart, and he was able to win by grit, if Tszyu has a big gash in his head, Fundora broke his nose in that fight. But in the end he edges Tim by a split decision win.
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Errol is almost as soft as Devin Haney being exposed, all the time in their career they were just fighting low-level boxers playing numbers for their boxing records but when they are matched to someone just right where their skillset level, they fold in the ring.

Fundora is also the same but after fighting Tszyu, he proved himself. I think Fundora will battle Spence to the ground.

It was speculated that the reason why Errol Spence did not have a strong fight vs. Bud Crawford is because Errol is very much dehydrated in welterweight. He is becoming very heavy for this weight division already. Also, similar to what @bisdak40 has mentioned, Fundora is not a very good boxer. This fight for Errol is the tune up fight that he needs hehe. However, a tune up fight with a championship hehehehehe.

I'm not sure if he is dehydrated or not when he fought Crawford at 147 lbs, both could be rehydrated as well as Bud is also moving at 154 lbs in his next fight. And just shows that Crawford really dominated a prime Spence that time and there's no question who is the best Welterweight. However, this is going to be a make or break fight for Spence, and I think his fans can't wait for this fight as well as Errol will proved to everyone that he still have it. Ring rust though might play a big role here. So respect for him for not taking a tune up. And if Spence wins here, our expectations is that they rematch could happen at 154 lbs between Bud and Errol.
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Errol is almost as soft as Devin Haney being exposed, all the time in their career they were just fighting low-level boxers playing numbers for their boxing records but when they are matched to someone just right where their skillset level, they fold in the ring.

Fundora is also the same but after fighting Tszyu, he proved himself. I think Fundora will battle Spence to the ground.

It was speculated that the reason why Errol Spence did not have a strong fight vs. Bud Crawford is because Errol is very much dehydrated in welterweight. He is becoming very heavy for this weight division already. Also, similar to what @bisdak40 has mentioned, Fundora is not a very good boxer. This fight for Errol is the tune up fight that he needs hehe. However, a tune up fight with a championship hehehehehe.

A risk that is worth taking, I think this is what Spence is thinking in this fight. And for me, we can compare this to Tank fighting Mario Barrios for a belt at 140 lbs. So I will take a word from you, this could be a "scam" as Spence has a great chance to win this fight.

In paper it looks good for Fundora as he won against Tim Tszyu, however, if not for the accidental cut, it could be a different outcome and Tim could have won the fight. And another factor is that they know that Fundora just came from that messy fight and so he might not have recovered yet.
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Errol is almost as soft as Devin Haney being exposed, all the time in their career they were just fighting low-level boxers playing numbers for their boxing records but when they are matched to someone just right where their skillset level, they fold in the ring.

Fundora is also the same but after fighting Tszyu, he proved himself. I think Fundora will battle Spence to the ground.

It was speculated that the reason why Errol Spence did not have a strong fight vs. Bud Crawford is because Errol is very much dehydrated in welterweight. He is becoming very heavy for this weight division already. Also, similar to what @bisdak40 has mentioned, Fundora is not a very good boxer. This fight for Errol is the tune up fight that he needs hehe. However, a tune up fight with a championship hehehehehe.
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Errol is almost as soft as Devin Haney being exposed, all the time in their career they were just fighting low-level boxers playing numbers for their boxing records but when they are matched to someone just right where their skillset level, they fold in the ring.

Fundora is also the same but after fighting Tszyu, he proved himself. I think Fundora will battle Spence to the ground.

I wouldn't say that Errol is soft though, I mean he had belts at 147 lbs although I do agree that there are signs that he might not be as good as what others projected when he had difficult time beating Porter and then Ugas rock him and almost knock him out.

For Fundora, it's hard to discount this guy, he was knockout in his previous fight and others dismissed him as Tszyu was a formidable boxer and touted to be the next big name at 154 lbs. But he spoils everything for him as he won in a messy and bloody fight. Very hard to see how this fight goes as it will all depends on what version of Spence is going to show in this fight. And if Fundora shows the heart like in the Tszyu fight, then Spence will be in big trouble.
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Errol is almost as soft as Devin Haney being exposed, all the time in their career they were just fighting low-level boxers playing numbers for their boxing records but when they are matched to someone just right where their skillset level, they fold in the ring.

Fundora is also the same but after fighting Tszyu, he proved himself. I think Fundora will battle Spence to the ground.
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Saw this on the internet on who is interested in this.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/05/spence-vs-fundora-a-potential-clash-in-october-at-att-stadium-in-texas/

We will see Fundora defend his WBC and WBO to Spence. They are both talented and it's definitely exciting to watch this IMO. The strength and good footwork of Spence would allow him to be at a distance but Fundora is tall which has an advantage of reach.

It would be hard to decide. I think I would hold off for a long while with other news regarding this.
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Mike Coppinger did Fundora dirty with that picture, dude could've chosen some other picture where he's got a belt but no, it should be the one with the bloody nose that's swelling.

Fundora's last fight is pretty impressive if you ask me, I mean sure it's a split decision and not a knockout but look at Tszyu, that's not the face and body state of a winner in boxing, unless those blood are coming from the splashes of blood from Fundora, it's not a good face for you to be drenched in blood. If the same ferocity is shown in this next fight and Spence isn't prepared for that ferocity, I think that Fundora would get the win because he's got all the advantage, the height/reach difference is big and the age is a factor too right?
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Spence is taking a risky route for a comeback Fundora is coming up with a great win because he was an underdog and many people did not expect him to win the match against Tszyu, he announced that this could be his last fight but we never know it is just his strategy, he is only 34 years and he is still competitive.
I won't question his decision as I believe he knows what he is doing. Yes, it's risky, but isn't that what we want to see? I mean, we sometimes complain about a boxer cherry-picking his opponent. Now that we see Spence taking a risky fight, I think we should be happy with that. Despite the loss against Crawford, it doesn't affect his confidence. And besides, this is a championship fight, so this high-risk fight could lead to a high reward if he wins.
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After losing badly to Crawford, this is the time for Spence to reclaim his reputation.
I just look at how good this Fundora is, and he's tall for a welterweight fighter, but a bit slow for me.

Ever since he got into an accident that affected his eye, he's been inactive for quite some time, and he's fighting at least once a year only. Maybe that accident affected his career like what many analysts did said in the past as well, and it really is. Even though it's Spence who is the favorite to win this fight, I think there's still a chance for Fundora to win. It's not the same, but I'm thinking that Fundora's reach advantage will be utilized in this fight. I mean he has an 8-inch reach advantage, and for sure, he will be utilizing it by throwing more jabs just like what Bivol did to Canelo when they fought.

I want to put my bet on Spence, but his inactivity of more than a year might affect his performance.

I actually think he is doing this very cleverly. He is giving his body good enough time to recover. After each fight he is taking the time off that is necessary for him. Does that affect his performance somewhat? Of course, it does.

But I think the recovery that he gets by staying away from fighting for a certain period of time is actually worth it. I am not saying he is going to win the next fight, I am also not saying he's going to lose. But I am just saying that the decision that he has taken off staying away for some time after each fight might not necessarily be a bad one. And by the way, if he was inconsistent with his timing if he was staying awake for six months after a fight and 15 months after another, it could have affected his performance badly. But I think since he is staying away from fighting about a year after each fight, I think it is not that bad.

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Spence is taking a risky route for a comeback Fundora is coming up with a great win because he was an underdog and many people did not expect him to win the match against Tszyu, he announced that this could be his last fight but we never know it is just his strategy, he is only 34 years and he is still competitive.

Yeah, I also heard that Spence is contemplating retirement, and I don't know, if boxers says that they will retire soon, most likely they have a feeling that they don't have it anymore. Maybe he just want another last good fight and become a champion again. But there could be doubts in his mind going into this fight.

I don't want to judge Spence based on one fight, he just fought Crawford who is considered a very good fighter but with other fighters, he can still be dominant he is still the favorite based on the odds but that will likely change as the match progresses its interesting to see them in their press conferences and promotions.

It will still be the same Spence though, but the thing is that Derrick James, who has guided his career is no longer in his side as they have a bitter divorce to the point that James resorted into legal means for the compensation that he thinks he deserved when he trained Spence throughout his career.
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Spence is taking a risky route for a comeback Fundora is coming up with a great win because he was an underdog and many people did not expect him to win the match against Tszyu, he announced that this could be his last fight but we never know it is just his strategy, he is only 34 years and he is still competitive.

I don't want to judge Spence based on one fight, he just fought Crawford who is considered a very good fighter but with other fighters, he can still be dominant he is still the favorite based on the odds but that will likely change as the match progresses its interesting to see them in their press conferences and promotions.
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It appears Errol Spence found a not very difficult fight to become champion again hehehe. I am not quite certain if Sebastian Fundora is a very good boxer, however, his victory against Tim Tszyu was very much an upset. I am not quite certain why Tszyu did not decide for an immediate rematch. Does this imply that Fundora is a very good fighter that Tszyu underestimated? I have not followed this man's career.

@Boafeng, @bisdak40. What is your opinion on Fundora and what is your prediction on how he will perform vs. Errol?

If only Tim Tszyu didn't suffered a nasty cut on his fight against Fundora, i'm quite certain that Tim would win that fight as he is the better fighter for me talent-wise.
Tim is a better overall boxer than Fundora, no offense to his fans. But it was just a accident and we felt sorry for Tim for losing that big fight as he could be the one facing Errol Spence here. Nevertheless, Tim can still get back his belt if he will win against Vergil Ortiz.

I do agree that Errol Spence's path to be a champion once again is an easy, no offense meant to the fans of Fundora but the talent level of these boxers is not on the same level. There might be a chance that Spence will struggle at the early stage of the fight due to inactivity but somehow i think he will figure out a way to beat Fundora.
One thing that might go against Spence here is the big psychological lost that Crawford gave to him. He should taken a tune up fight first just to get back his confidence here. Btu I guess he thinks that he is still ok even if he had the big mental scar already and his 0 is gone.
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Errol Spence has to improve his quickness if he wants to beat the current champion.
if he can work out in his speed and accuracy then he might hit a chance of winning this bout and hope that His team will look and train for this area.
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On the height comparison, there's a huge difference as it looks like David vs Goliath.

Errol Spence : 5"10'
Sebastian Fundora : 6"6'
it is always advantageous if you have the reach but remember that it is the speed that mostly matters and the strong punches that is accurate.

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Good luck for him, hopefully he can comeback to being a champion so he'll meet with Crawford again in this division.
lets hope for him to have a good comeback.
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It appears Errol Spence found a not very difficult fight to become champion again hehehe. I am not quite certain if Sebastian Fundora is a very good boxer, however, his victory against Tim Tszyu was very much an upset. I am not quite certain why Tszyu did not decide for an immediate rematch. Does this imply that Fundora is a very good fighter that Tszyu underestimated? I have not followed this man's career.

@Boafeng, @bisdak40. What is your opinion on Fundora and what is your prediction on how he will perform vs. Errol?

If only Tim Tszyu didn't suffered a nasty cut on his fight against Fundora, i'm quite certain that Tim would win that fight as he is the better fighter for me talent-wise.

I do agree that Errol Spence's path to be a champion once again is an easy, no offense meant to the fans of Fundora but the talent level of these boxers is not on the same level. There might be a chance that Spence will struggle at the early stage of the fight due to inactivity but somehow i think he will figure out a way to beat Fundora.
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It appears Errol Spence found a not very difficult fight to become champion again hehehe. I am not quite certain if Sebastian Fundora is a very good boxer, however, his victory against Tim Tszyu was very much an upset. I am not quite certain why Tszyu did not decide for an immediate rematch. Does this imply that Fundora is a very good fighter that Tszyu underestimated? I have not followed this man's career.

@Boafeng, @bisdak40. What is your opinion on Fundora and what is your prediction on how he will perform vs. Errol?
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I expected a rematch with Crawford but I guess we are not going to be seeing that anytime soon. As for the forth coming match with I am not so enthusiastic about. In boxing are we seeing fights fixed based on the revenue that they can generate? It looks as if they are more or less looking to maximize profits for the fighters rather than for championships titles. Because, why aren't we having a rematch between Spence and Crawford? Well, in this match, my bet is on Spence. His chances of winning are higher than that of Sebastian Fundora.
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After losing badly to Crawford, this is the time for Spence to reclaim his reputation.
I just look at how good this Fundora is, and he's tall for a welterweight fighter, but a bit slow for me.

Ever since he got into an accident that affected his eye, he's been inactive for quite some time, and he's fighting at least once a year only. Maybe that accident affected his career like what many analysts did said in the past as well, and it really is. Even though it's Spence who is the favorite to win this fight, I think there's still a chance for Fundora to win. It's not the same, but I'm thinking that Fundora's reach advantage will be utilized in this fight. I mean he has an 8-inch reach advantage, and for sure, he will be utilizing it by throwing more jabs just like what Bivol did to Canelo when they fought.

I want to put my bet on Spence, but his inactivity of more than a year might affect his performance.
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Not taking anything away from Spence, but he seems to have lost the hunger for a match, the eagerness to face another fighter inside the ring. I'm not sure if this is personal or something that has to do with the team, management, or promoter, but it's such a waste that he's been inactive. Time isn't on his side anymore.

It took him more than a year of inactivity before he fought Crawford. Now, it's the same thing all over again. He'll be fighting after more than a year of inactivity. Even prior to fighting Ugas back in 2022, he was also inactive for more than a year. Was he seriously affected by his accident? Was he facing certain problems to begin with?

Spence has the power but I think Fundora can manage to outscore him, even KO him if he's lucky. Fundora's advantage in height and reach alone isn't a small advantage.
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