[Boxing]: Inoue vs. Moloney - October 31 - page 8.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 09, 2020, 05:41:03 PM

Quote from: aesma on September 09, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What about the money ? Is it possible to earn as much money for the promoters during these difficult times of a global COVID19 pandemic ? Do people have the spare cash to spend to watch a boxing match ?

There are still money to make in this pandemic, but unlikely that it will still huge as compare to no virus and fans watching the fight live, PPV, live gates, promotions. I'm sure there are fans that are going to watch Inoue, regardless if we are in a pandemic or not, because he is fun and exciting to watch.

@Ryker1 - this fight is next month, maybe you are talking abut the Casimero vs Micah in about 20 days from now.

True, there's still money on this fight but I know promoters are smart enough not to give their cash cow the hardest opponent so they can win easily, that's how business are going here, they make less money but less risk for their star Inoue, if Bob want the casimero fight, they would have not cancelled it, maybe they are waiting for the timing where people can go out already and watch the game live, you know gate entrance is the biggest contribution in the total sales.

just disappointing that until now I can't find the betting odds for this fight, I have no idea how favorite Inoue is over Moloney.

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Quote from: aesma on September 09, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What about the money ? Is it possible to earn as much money for the promoters during these difficult times of a global COVID19 pandemic ? Do people have the spare cash to spend to watch a boxing match ?

There are still money to make in this pandemic, but unlikely that it will still huge as compare to no virus and fans watching the fight live, PPV, live gates, promotions. I'm sure there are fans that are going to watch Inoue, regardless if we are in a pandemic or not, because he is fun and exciting to watch.

@Ryker1 - this fight is next month, maybe you are talking abut the Casimero vs Micah in about 20 days from now.

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Quote from: aesma on September 09, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What about the money ? Is it possible to earn as much money for the promoters during these difficult times of a global COVID19 pandemic ? Do people have the spare cash to spend to watch a boxing match ?

Well, the above my post is true. The money they will earn during these days will reduce because of the COVID19 pandemic. If you will have research on the global GDP growth you will know that there is a reduction in it that affected by this pandemic and I think the sports boxing industry also has experienced the same. There are still people that have wealth, --they can afford always their leisure and if they really want to spend a few bucks to this event they want. I am excited on this fight, 20 + days more to go.

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Quote from: aesma on September 09, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What about the money ? Is it possible to earn as much money for the promoters during these difficult times of a global COVID19 pandemic ? Do people have the spare cash to spend to watch a boxing match ?

These fights wont happen if the promoters wont able to make up some money but somehow this wont be similar into those normal days since they can make out money through stadium tickets +
ppv sales unlike now on a pandemic situation where they do only rely on PPV sales.They do still make money but expected to be less even though they would make those ppv a little bit expensive than normal.
For people to have spare cash to spend then of course they do and if people do look for an interesting fight then a few bucks wont really hurt your pocket.

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What about the money ? Is it possible to earn as much money for the promoters during these difficult times of a global COVID19 pandemic ? Do people have the spare cash to spend to watch a boxing match ?

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Quote from: mirakal on September 02, 2020, 05:49:00 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on September 02, 2020, 05:41:56 PM

Both Inoue and Casimero had an individual fight, is it possible that if both fighter would win their respective fights, they would finally face each other?

This is what we have been looking, we were hype when it first announce but due to the pandemic, promoter of Inoue might have found a reason to cancel the fight as IMO, they don't want to risk the undefeated record of Inoue against Casimero, but let's see if both fighters could win and then we will start to speculate again and hopefully that time we will be virus free some promoters will find no excuse not to make the fight happen.

Too early, so I expect there's no odds for this fight yet.

I don’t think the pandemic has been their escape goat to cancel Inoue’s fight with Casimero. Inoue is a great fighter and so is Casimero. Both have good reputation in boxing industry and would really make a very good match. However, I think what both camps decided to do is to postpone it and have their own fights to hype the fans for their upcoming game some time in the future.

Inoue has a clean record of winning his games and has never been tainted, but whenever a fight is up, there’s always a risk of losing to the opponent, so i think it isn’t really the reason for rescheduling. Aside from that, Moloney still makes a good match for Inoue even though he’s not on the same level of experience and winning streaks.

I hope their fight on October turns out well. For sure both boxers are dedicated to win and bring the title to their respective hometown.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on September 04, 2020, 04:41:47 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on September 04, 2020, 04:12:44 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on September 03, 2020, 06:28:29 PM

So this Moloney could be good, but compare to Inoue, he will be just the B side fighter and it will show how good the Monster it. We are disappointed that instead of Casimero he will be facing a unknown fighter. I don't understand why Casimero couldn't wait though. He will just have to wait for a full month and then they can have the date of Oct 31.

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Will see, I hope somehow this would entertain us, if Nonito an older fighter were able to give Inoue a very hard time, hope this one too .

Well, as a challenger of this match. Moloney will perhaps be preparing his self to become stronger than my favorite boxer Inoue, --because the challenger is always on the underdog in every match. But as you have said, we will see what will happen, it is hard to predict because they are both strong and young if you don't compare their previous matched record. The 2 months preparation is quite enough for them to be a stronger boxer and I hope none of them got sick so that the fight will not postpone.

The underdog always has the chance to prove what he's got. And this is the reason why they are taking seriously their training. Quite a challenge for him as he is facing the crowd favourite Inoue. Let's see what will be the odds from sports betting sites. Maybe betting on Moloney this time. Just to see where this one goes.

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Quote from: Vaculin on September 04, 2020, 04:12:44 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on September 03, 2020, 06:28:29 PM

So this Moloney could be good, but compare to Inoue, he will be just the B side fighter and it will show how good the Monster it. We are disappointed that instead of Casimero he will be facing a unknown fighter. I don't understand why Casimero couldn't wait though. He will just have to wait for a full month and then they can have the date of Oct 31.

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Will see, I hope somehow this would entertain us, if Nonito an older fighter were able to give Inoue a very hard time, hope this one too .

Well, as a challenger of this match. Moloney will perhaps be preparing his self to become stronger than my favorite boxer Inoue, --because the challenger is always on the underdog in every match. But as you have said, we will see what will happen, it is hard to predict because they are both strong and young if you don't compare their previous matched record. The 2 months preparation is quite enough for them to be a stronger boxer and I hope none of them got sick so that the fight will not postpone.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 03, 2020, 06:28:29 PM

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 03, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on September 03, 2020, 02:28:38 PM

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Well, at this match I will go to the side of Inoue

^ We are on the same pick, have a better odds is the Naoya "The Monster" Inoue.
This fight is November 1 in Japan and that is on Halloween there.
This is the most anticipated fight on WBSSB tournament after defeating Nonito Donaire last year who will be the next in line. I give my full support to Naoya.

There's a big difference between the two fighters, looking at the picture you shared, both have a good record but I don't see any belt on the picture for Moloney, so probably this guy is an easy opponent for Inoue to hype the career of Inoue more.

Obviously, Moloney is unheard of and we are all familiar how Inoue destroy Nonito during the WBSSB tournament.

I think it's more like Inoue destroys everyone in the tournament except Nonito Donaire which gives him a tough night.
Actually that was the only fight I saw Inoue struggle, good thing he is younger and stronger and we able to come back in the later rounds to beat the gas out Nonito in that fight.

Quote from: btc_angela on September 03, 2020, 06:28:29 PM

So this Moloney could be good, but compare to Inoue, he will be just the B side fighter and it will show how good the Monster it. We are disappointed that instead of Casimero he will be facing a unknown fighter. I don't understand why Casimero couldn't wait though. He will just have to wait for a full month and then they can have the date of Oct 31.

Will see, I hope somehow this would entertain us, if Nonito an older fighter were able to give Inoue a very hard time, hope this one too .

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 03, 2020, 05:01:30 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 02, 2020, 05:31:57 PM

So Inoue will be facing Australia's Jason Moloney, this kid is a banger and it's tailor made for Inoue. Highlights of his last fight against Baez.

That's the right term bro, this fight is tailor fit for Inoue and this will make the latter looks good in the ring. Top Rank is grooming this kid to be the next Asian superstar and so far they are doing a very good job by cancelling his supposed fight with Casimero. Will be betting for Inoue by knock-out.

Yes, we all know that Top Rank started this whole era of cherry picking opponents, specially with Manny Pacquaio. So they know what they are doing with this kid and they don't want to throw him early with Casimero without any 'warm-up' fight, so Moloney is the right guy for them to show case once more Inoue's strength, to create more hype before setting everything up for Casimero next year.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 04, 2020, 07:33:48 AM

Quote from: Jating on September 04, 2020, 06:53:13 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 04, 2020, 06:43:32 AM

This fight looks very exciting, but there's no available betting odds yet, not in my book yet, maybe other sportsbook have it, so please share guys. Any fight Inoue is exciting because he will always go for the KO, with his high KO percentage, I think we will likely see another one to add in his record in this fight.

The fight is next month or at least 7 full weeks if I'm not mistaken, so there's no update for any sport bookies as of now.

He is the Monster and casual fans really knows that he has power in both hands that can knock out everyone. However, if the odds are not that attractive, personally, I will skip and wait for the awaited match between him and Casimero. That will be exciting to beat as there might not be a clear favourite.

What if the casimero vs Inoue fight won't happen? I think I will just watch this fight as I like Inoue too, though he called himself as a monster, but he is a very humble guy, that's why I like him. I think Asian boxers are humble in real life, just my observation

Not at all but for most Japanese fighters then i do have the same view when it comes on being a humble fighter.This kid has so much potential to rise up into the top and also

he had already get that recognition into this field of boxing.We do all like for casimero and inoue fight but as long the association do make out decisions then theres nothing we can do.

Or they do just have the plans but not would be the right time to do so.They might be targeting for that fight when this pandemic is over or when people can really go outside and
watch on a very crowded stadium.

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I agree with the predictions of most of the members of this forum, that Naoya Inoue will win the fight against Jason Moloney.
Although Inoue won't be able to easily beat Moloney, because both are young boxers who can be very aggressive. Will provide
a very interesting boxing fight, I am optimistic that Inoue will show his best performance as a real monster in the ring. If you
see the data comparison on the internet, their abilities are quite equal. But my instincts told me Inoue would win the fight
against Moloney.

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Quote from: Jating on September 04, 2020, 06:53:13 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 04, 2020, 06:43:32 AM

This fight looks very exciting, but there's no available betting odds yet, not in my book yet, maybe other sportsbook have it, so please share guys. Any fight Inoue is exciting because he will always go for the KO, with his high KO percentage, I think we will likely see another one to add in his record in this fight.

The fight is next month or at least 7 full weeks if I'm not mistaken, so there's no update for any sport bookies as of now.

He is the Monster and casual fans really knows that he has power in both hands that can knock out everyone. However, if the odds are not that attractive, personally, I will skip and wait for the awaited match between him and Casimero. That will be exciting to beat as there might not be a clear favourite.

What if the casimero vs Inoue fight won't happen? I think I will just watch this fight as I like Inoue too, though he called himself as a monster, but he is a very humble guy, that's why I like him. I think Asian boxers are humble in real life, just my observation

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 04, 2020, 06:43:32 AM

This fight looks very exciting, but there's no available betting odds yet, not in my book yet, maybe other sportsbook have it, so please share guys. Any fight Inoue is exciting because he will always go for the KO, with his high KO percentage, I think we will likely see another one to add in his record in this fight.

The fight is next month or at least 7 full weeks if I'm not mistaken, so there's no update for any sport bookies as of now.

He is the Monster and casual fans really knows that he has power in both hands that can knock out everyone. However, if the odds are not that attractive, personally, I will skip and wait for the awaited match between him and Casimero. That will be exciting to bet as there might not be a clear favourite.

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This fight looks very exciting, but there's no available betting odds yet, not in my book yet, maybe other sportsbook have it, so please share guys. Any fight Inoue is exciting because he will always go for the KO, with his high KO percentage, I think we will likely see another one to add in his record in this fight.

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Both boxers are strong but for me, Inoue will win this match, don't get me wrong, Moloney has a potential but Inoue is on a different level.

Well, we still don't know what will happen on the fight, results aren't finalized until they match up in the ring. Everyone is rooting for Inoue and I just want to say good luck to both of them especially to Moloney. Grin

I read something that many people are also disappointed because they're hoping for Inoue vs Casimero match.

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Both have the Nickname The Monster now we could really see who is the real monster, but I could both really have good records and standings when it comes to each other although Andrew Moloney had one loss in his career this can be easily ignored because of the number of fights he had VS Inoue but the number of records on most knockouts on Naoya Inoue can greatly be seen as a great achievement,

Andrew Moloney had been in a recent loss to Joshua Franco even though it is a Decision fight recovering from a loss has sometimes have a impact to a boxer but it can sometimes be very strong motivation in winning in his next match, so I don't know what may happen if both monsters can end up meeting in the ring but I want Naoya Inoue to win this so he could face Johnriel Casimero next.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 04, 2020, 03:27:51 AM

Quote from: robelneo on September 03, 2020, 08:25:28 PM

Quote from: aesma on September 03, 2020, 01:47:53 PM

If "Japanese superstar" Naoya Inoue wants to keep his record of being undefeated, he can always retire ! The more he fights, the more he risks losing that record. But not fighting, or fighting obviously inferior opponents, is not good for his image either...

I don't think retirement will ever go to Inoue's mind he is still starting his journey to greatness, boxers are meant to fight and win titles not to preserve their records, Moloney is not an inferior fighter but I cannot consider him match to Inoue's level, I think matchmakers just want to condition him and boost his confidence for his coming fight to Casimero, they don't want risk in their preparation so they take in Moloney.

Huh? who's talking about retirement? Inoue? Nah, he is at the peak of his career and on his way to be a p4p fighter and he has just started to carve a name for himself and also be the next superstar from Asia after Manny Pacquiao. Boxing is business, promoters are good at picking opponents for their cash cow and I think nothing is wrong with that. The potential clash with Casimero is still in the table. They just need to beat their respective opponents.

retirement is really out of the question here. he's at the peak and i dont think he's thinking of hanging his gloves anytime soon. most boxers have the mentality to fight as long as they can. look at Pacquiao, he came out of retirement and still fighting. they know their capabilities inside the ring. so long their body can handle the punches, most of them will continue fighting.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 03, 2020, 08:25:28 PM

Quote from: aesma on September 03, 2020, 01:47:53 PM

If "Japanese superstar" Naoya Inoue wants to keep his record of being undefeated, he can always retire ! The more he fights, the more he risks losing that record. But not fighting, or fighting obviously inferior opponents, is not good for his image either...

I don't think retirement will ever go to Inoue's mind he is still starting his journey to greatness, boxers are meant to fight and win titles not to preserve their records, Moloney is not an inferior fighter but I cannot consider him match to Inoue's level, I think matchmakers just want to condition him and boost his confidence for his coming fight to Casimero, they don't want risk in their preparation so they take in Moloney.

Huh? who's talking about retirement? Inoue? Nah, he is at the peak of his career and on his way to be a p4p fighter and he has just started to carve a name for himself and also be the next superstar from Asia after Manny Pacquiao. Boxing is business, promoters are good at picking opponents for their cash cow and I think nothing is wrong with that. The potential clash with Casimero is still in the table. They just need to beat their respective opponents.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on September 03, 2020, 02:28:38 PM

Well, at this match I will go to the side of Inoue, the undefeated boxing fighter. He perhaps would win by technical knockout, --but we can't underestimate the profile of the challenger Moloney a.k.a ^{[The Smooth One]} have also a chance to win, he looks good but I did not see him how to fight on his previous fought. This is a very interesting fight because both fighters are very aggressive and young, also the tale of the tape is a very close status for both fighters.

Furthermore, you can analyze this comparison who will be the fighter's won.

They both have good stats but the comparison and analysis that you have made is considerably good and shows that there's still a huge gap from both fighters in terms of the titles that they have. The obviousness of what Inoue has achieved can say more of his fighting style despite Moloney has more fights.

I think Inoue is one of the kind and in my life, he's one of the best Japanese boxers that I've ever known. To the boxing historians out there, are there other good Japanese boxers that are good as Inoue?

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