[Boxing] Jack Catterall vs Regis Prograis - Super Lightweights - October 26

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Rumor about Jack Catterall next fight.. which one do you like?

Jack Catterall next fight: Haney, Garcia and Teofimo would be 50/50 contests, says Eddie Hearn

I’d love to see some real action with Catterall challenging Teofimo. It’s not going to be easy since Teofimo is on a different level compared to Prograis, but Catterall would definitely make a great challenger for the champion. Hopefully, this fight becomes a reality.

The easiest fight to make would be Catterall against the winner of Hitchins vs. Paro, because it would be an in-house fight for Matchroom. I expect that will be next and then we might see a unification.

Haney has been inactive for a long time now and he might decide to come back soon. He could be considered as an opponent for Catterall, but stylistically, it would not be a very attractive fight because they are both defensively oriented.

Yeah, most likely, Matchroom wanted all the money in-house, just like what Bob Arum uses to do and up to this day, that his one strategy. And I think it will not sell as well, fans still wanted a rematch with Garcia, and if Haney wanted to have his biggest paycheck, then he should do a second fight with Ryan with all the stipulations on drug testing.

Not sure if Teo wanted any smoke from Catterall, although in paper it will really look good for Teo if he can defend his belt. But Jack seems to be very hungry at this point and he might pull a upset on Teo, in my opinion. So I don't see Teo accepting Jack as his next opponent.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 02, 2024, 09:04:52 AM

Rumor about Jack Catterall next fight.. which one do you like?

Jack Catterall next fight: Haney, Garcia and Teofimo would be 50/50 contests, says Eddie Hearn

I’d love to see some real action with Catterall challenging Teofimo. It’s not going to be easy since Teofimo is on a different level compared to Prograis, but Catterall would definitely make a great challenger for the champion. Hopefully, this fight becomes a reality.

The easiest fight to make would be Catterall against the winner of Hitchins vs. Paro, because it would be an in-house fight for Matchroom. I expect that will be next and then we might see a unification.

Haney has been inactive for a long time now and he might decide to come back soon. He could be considered as an opponent for Catterall, but stylistically, it would not be a very attractive fight because they are both defensively oriented.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 02, 2024, 09:04:52 AM

Rumor about Jack Catterall next fight.. which one do you like?

Jack Catterall next fight: Haney, Garcia and Teofimo would be 50/50 contests, says Eddie Hearn

I’d love to see some real action with Catterall challenging Teofimo. It’s not going to be easy since Teofimo is on a different level compared to Prograis, but Catterall would definitely make a great challenger for the champion. Hopefully, this fight becomes a reality.

While this might be a possibility, Eddie Hearn is definitely hyping it up by calling it a 50-50 matchup. It’s clear that Catterall isn’t quite at the level of these two champions yet. Sure, he showed his skills against Taylor, but Taylor was already past his prime. Even against Teofimo, I think Catterall could be facing his first KO against this powerhouse of a boxer.

Interestingly, there’s already a post on Facebook about this potential fight, asking, “Who wins between the two?”

https://www.facebook.com/boxingnewsonline/photos/if-teofimo-lopez-and-jack-catterall-fought-who-would-win-/1089711879183633/

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Rumor about Jack Catterall next fight.. which one do you like?

Jack Catterall next fight: Haney, Garcia and Teofimo would be 50/50 contests, says Eddie Hearn

I’d love to see some real action with Catterall challenging Teofimo. It’s not going to be easy since Teofimo is on a different level compared to Prograis, but Catterall would definitely make a great challenger for the champion. Hopefully, this fight becomes a reality.

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Quote from: Jating on October 28, 2024, 08:19:24 AM

If I'm not mistaken, Jack Catterall is promoted by Hearn? If this is the case and we all know that Lopez is with Top Rank, there could be animosity between Eddie Hearn and Bob Arum, but if they talk about business, for sure they can step aside their difference and set this fight for a good paycheck on both boxers. Of course, Teo will be the A-side as he is the lineal champion.

The question is who will give in when both promoters are full of pride and hate each other. They will want to make their fighter the priority, but since Teo is the champion he should have the luxury of first choice and has a huge cut on the paycheck.
I hope the boxing organizations will make Caterral mandatory in Teo's defense; after all, Caterral deserves a title shot after his impressive showing against Prograis, politics should not get in the way in boxing, its what stopping great fighters to fight each other because of the priude and greediness of their promotion, I hope we don't see it here.

Eddie Hearn knows that Teo is the champion or shall we say that his boy is the challenger and so he ha to give in to the demands if Teo or Top Rank if they wanted to have a crack at that belt.

They have work before though, and this is not the first time so they could still make the fight for the sake of business. They work when Jack fought Josh Taylor in the rematch and even if we hear that Bob blasted the officiating in front of Eddie Hearn, still nothing has change. Jack though has a lot of options, maybe he can wait the winner of Paro vs Hitchins as well and be the mandatory.

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Quote from: Jating on October 28, 2024, 08:19:24 AM

If I'm not mistaken, Jack Catterall is promoted by Hearn? If this is the case and we all know that Lopez is with Top Rank, there could be animosity between Eddie Hearn and Bob Arum, but if they talk about business, for sure they can step aside their difference and set this fight for a good paycheck on both boxers. Of course, Teo will be the A-side as he is the lineal champion.

The question is who will give in when both promoters are full of pride and hate each other. They will want to make their fighter the priority, but since Teo is the champion he should have the luxury of first choice and has a huge cut on the paycheck.
I hope the boxing organizations will make Caterral mandatory in Teo's defense; after all, Caterral deserves a title shot after his impressive showing against Prograis, politics should not get in the way in boxing, its what stopping great fighters to fight each other because of the priude and greediness of their promotion, I hope we don't see it here.

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Quote from: stadus on October 28, 2024, 12:13:28 AM

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Regis Prograis got reckless after scoring a knockdown in the sixth round, thinking he could finish off Catterall. However, the opposite happened. After being knocked down twice, Prograis never recovered and ultimately lost the fight.

As for Jack Catterall, I think he is ready to face Teofimo Lopez next if Top Rank wants their fighter to defend the belt against him.

Both fighters seemed to have similar power in their punches, but Catterall was smarter than Prograis, which is why he got the win. It was a unanimous decision, and the scoring wasn’t even close. I’m pretty sure this indicates that Prograis might need to hang up his gloves and start enjoying retirement.

True, this lost could be a signal that it's time for Regis to hang up his gloves, maybe he can be a boxing commentator or he can still involved himself in the background like a coach or he could be a influencer to young fighters.

Quote from: stadus on October 28, 2024, 12:13:28 AM

As for a potential Catterall fight with Lopez, I think Top Rank would be thrilled to see this matchup. They’re focused on building Teofimo, who is definitely a more exciting boxer than anyone else in the division.

If I'm not mistaken, Jack Catterall is promoted by Hearn? If this is the case and we all know that Lopez is with Top Rank, there could be animosity between Eddie Hearn and Bob Arum, but if they talk about business, for sure they can step aside their difference and set this fight for a good paycheck on both boxers. Of course, Teo will be the A-side as he is the lineal champion.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 27, 2024, 09:02:45 PM

Regis Prograis got reckless after scoring a knockdown in the sixth round, thinking he could finish off Catterall. However, the opposite happened. After being knocked down twice, Prograis never recovered and ultimately lost the fight.

As for Jack Catterall, I think he is ready to face Teofimo Lopez next if Top Rank wants their fighter to defend the belt against him.

Both fighters seemed to have similar power in their punches, but Catterall was smarter than Prograis, which is why he got the win. It was a unanimous decision, and the scoring wasn’t even close. I’m pretty sure this indicates that Prograis might need to hang up his gloves and start enjoying retirement.

As for a potential Catterall fight with Lopez, I think Top Rank would be thrilled to see this matchup. They’re focused on building Teofimo, who is definitely a more exciting boxer than anyone else in the division.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 27, 2024, 06:28:48 AM

He made a wrong judgment by underestimating Jack Catterall, even as the underdog. At the start, he was actually winning; if you look at the scorecards that were flashed, Prograis was leading in the first four rounds, IIRC. But after getting knocked down twice, things turned sour for him. He couldn’t get his timing right anymore and seemed to be looking for a one-punch KO, which left him open for Catterall's counter punches.

Regis Prograis got reckless after scoring a knockdown in the sixth round, thinking he could finish off Catterall. However, the opposite happened. After being knocked down twice, Prograis never recovered and ultimately lost the fight.

As for Jack Catterall, I think he is ready to face Teofimo Lopez next if Top Rank wants their fighter to defend the belt against him.

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Quote from: aioc on October 27, 2024, 05:47:12 AM

I have seen the fight, and I don't think he is old; he is just off and too eager. I think he underestimated Caterral on this fight; he was the underdog, but I don't see him taking precautions; he is throwing cautions to the wind with too many wild punches, and Caterral just caught with his counter punches.
There was a time that he is looking for knockout, he should have just accumulate points and be aggressive in the latter rounds, it turn out he become desperate in the championship rounds.
And I thought the fight would be close, but Caterral really scouted his weakness.

He made a wrong judgment by underestimating Jack Catterall, even as the underdog. At the start, he was actually winning; if you look at the scorecards that were flashed, Prograis was leading in the first four rounds, IIRC. But after getting knocked down twice, things turned sour for him. He couldn’t get his timing right anymore and seemed to be looking for a one-punch KO, which left him open for Catterall's counter punches.

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Quote from: Jating on October 27, 2024, 04:39:51 AM

For Regis, he is old in this fight, and I do agree that it's time for him to just rest and retire for good.

I have seen the fight, and I don't think he is old; he is just off and too eager. I think he underestimated Caterral on this fight; he was the underdog, but I don't see him taking precautions; he is throwing cautions to the wind with too many wild punches, and Caterral just caught with his counter punches.
There was a time that he is looking for knockout, he should have just accumulate points and be aggressive in the latter rounds, it turn out he become desperate in the championship rounds.
And I thought the fight would be close, but Caterral really scouted his weakness.

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I thought this wasn’t a championship fight, but when I watched the fight highlights on DAZN channel, the announcer mentioned that Jack Catterall is the new WBO International Super Lightweight Champion. So, who are the champions at this level, and where does this title fit in the rankings?

That win by Jack Catterall acts like an umbrella in that division, giving him recognition that will likely lead to a better ranking and make him a mandatory challenger. In the rankings you shared, there’s no Super Lightweight Champion listed, but it’s referred to as Junior Welterweight (140 lbs.), where the current champion is Teofimo Lopez Jr.

Thank you for the explanation! I thought he was already a champion, but it turns out he’s not really one in the division since Teofimo Lopez holds that title. After this win, I’m not sure if his rank will improve enough to become a mandatory challenger, but if it does, we could see a good matchup. Lopez is the type of boxer who doesn’t focus much on defense; he just wants to attack, as seen in his fight against George Kambosos Jr. where he lost. But that was in a lower division, if I’m not mistaken.

He was almost that close of becoming a champion, he fought Josh Taylor, then reigning unified champion, but the results didn't favor Jack Catterall as the judges score the fight for Taylor. And Taylor wouldn't give him the rematch and instead fought Teo Lopez in which he lost the belt.

And with this win, for sure his ranking will go up in the all governing bodies. He could crack top 5 already with this big win.

For Regis, he is old in this fight, and I do agree that it's time for him to just rest and retire for good.

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I thought this wasn’t a championship fight, but when I watched the fight highlights on DAZN channel, the announcer mentioned that Jack Catterall is the new WBO International Super Lightweight Champion. So, who are the champions at this level, and where does this title fit in the rankings?

That win by Jack Catterall acts like an umbrella in that division, giving him recognition that will likely lead to a better ranking and make him a mandatory challenger. In the rankings you shared, there’s no Super Lightweight Champion listed, but it’s referred to as Junior Welterweight (140 lbs.), where the current champion is Teofimo Lopez Jr.

Thank you for the explanation! I thought he was already a champion, but it turns out he’s not really one in the division since Teofimo Lopez holds that title. After this win, I’m not sure if his rank will improve enough to become a mandatory challenger, but if it does, we could see a good matchup. Lopez is the type of boxer who doesn’t focus much on defense; he just wants to attack, as seen in his fight against George Kambosos Jr. where he lost. But that was in a lower division, if I’m not mistaken.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 27, 2024, 12:34:18 AM

Jack was spot on; on Prograis weaknesses, he really learned a lot watching Prograis loss to Haney; the counterpupches landed at the right time; he knew Prograis speed and aggressiveness, and he countered it with the right timing on landing the counterpunches; Prograis knew that he lost even before the judges were being read.
Prograis loss to Haney is ugly, but this one is more ugly because he made the same mistake on this fight: too aggressive and out-of-range punches. This is a risky fight for Prograis, but he still takes it. This is going to be a hard climb for Prograis; he should take an easy fight on his next fight to get his motivation back.

Prograis was pretty predictable, which allowed Jack Catterall to use his counterpunches effectively. While Prograis has a solid chin, he lost his strategy in the later rounds, leading to Catterall dominating the fight. If Prograis ends up challenging Teofimo, I doubt he’ll have much of a chance against a stronger and more technical fighter. But I’d still love to watch that fight if it happens, especially after seeing how aggressive Catterall is.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 26, 2024, 10:58:12 PM

I thought this wasn’t a championship fight, but when I watched the fight highlights on DAZN channel, the announcer mentioned that Jack Catterall is the new WBO International Super Lightweight Champion. So, who are the champions at this level, and where does this title fit in the rankings?

That win by Jack Catterall acts like an umbrella in that division, giving him recognition that will likely lead to a better ranking and make him a mandatory challenger. In the rankings you shared, there’s no Super Lightweight Champion listed, but it’s referred to as Junior Welterweight (140 lbs.), where the current champion is Teofimo Lopez Jr.

Jack was spot on; on Prograis weaknesses, he really learned a lot watching Prograis loss to Haney; the counterpupches landed at the right time; he knew Prograis speed and aggressiveness, and he countered it with the right timing on landing the counterpunches; Prograis knew that he lost even before the judges were being read.
Prograis loss to Haney is ugly, but this one is more ugly because he made the same mistake on this fight: too aggressive and out-of-range punches. This is a risky fight for Prograis, but he still takes it. This is going to be a hard climb for Prograis; he should take an easy fight on his next fight to get his motivation back.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 26, 2024, 10:58:12 PM

I thought this wasn’t a championship fight, but when I watched the fight highlights on DAZN channel, the announcer mentioned that Jack Catterall is the new WBO International Super Lightweight Champion. So, who are the champions at this level, and where does this title fit in the rankings?

That win by Jack Catterall acts like an umbrella in that division, giving him recognition that will likely lead to a better ranking and make him a mandatory challenger. In the rankings you shared, there’s no Super Lightweight Champion listed, but it’s referred to as Junior Welterweight (140 lbs.), where the current champion is Teofimo Lopez Jr.

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Quote from: stadus on October 26, 2024, 09:40:12 PM

As everyone predicted, Catterall won the fight by unanimous decision. Prograis started tough but couldn’t make the necessary adjustments, which allowed Catterall to dominate most rounds. Those two knockdowns were significant, especially with one round scoring 10-7 in favor of Catterall. Hopefully, next year we’ll see Catterall facing bigger fights against more popular boxers, especially since Prograis was already exposed by Haney before this match.

Catterall victory was quite surprising to me, because indeed previously I hoped for strong resistance from Prograis in the fight, especially from the first round to the third round it was actually seen if Catterall was able to launch more punches towards Prograis which made him almost fall at the end of the third round, the fight in my opinion was actually more interesting when entering the fourth to last round because Prograis began to try to back attack, and finally we can see how both boxers got a wound in the face, the victory over Prograis has shown Catterral incredible fighting ability and well-thought-out strategy, the victory from prograis will further open up his chances in the Super Lightweight Title fight later, I think Catterral path to a world title in the 140-pound class is getting closer right now and he just needs to face some better boxers to prove his capacity now.

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I thought this wasn’t a championship fight, but when I watched the fight highlights on DAZN channel, the announcer mentioned that Jack Catterall is the new WBO International Super Lightweight Champion. So, who are the champions at this level, and where does this title fit in the rankings?

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 26, 2024, 05:20:25 PM

Despite an early flash knockdown, Catterall was able to bounce back and with great defense and counterpunching dominated his opponent. Prograis is a one dimensional pressure fighter who struggles against slick boxers. His chin is also questionable after getting dropped by Haney once and twice by Catterall, two fighters with less than average power.

I think Regis was overrated, during his prime 140 lbs are not really that deep that's why he was able to stay in this division and we thought that he could be the one. But once he lost a fight, it's totally different mentality for him. And I read that he is considering retirement after his lost. It's fitting though as he has nothing to offer with back to back losses and his chin becoming questionable.

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With his two most recent wins, Catterall should be given an opportunity to fight for a world title. The fight that most people want to see is against Teofimo because they want to see the cocky loudmouth Teo lose. Teo has looked bad recently and would be an underdog in this fight so I’m expecting him to avoid this fight as long as possible.

This is also what I see with Jack now, it can't be denied that he is a prospect with successive wins. Hopefully he will be given by any governing body a crack from their champion. It will be interesting if Teo will say yes to a Catterall fight. Might be like Kambosos vs Lopez, wherein Kambosos pull a big upset against Teo.

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As everyone predicted, Catterall won the fight by unanimous decision. Prograis started tough but couldn’t make the necessary adjustments, which allowed Catterall to dominate most rounds. Those two knockdowns were significant, especially with one round scoring 10-7 in favor of Catterall. Hopefully, next year we’ll see Catterall facing bigger fights against more popular boxers, especially since Prograis was already exposed by Haney before this match.

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