[Boxing] Jake Paul vs. Tyron Woodley - page 12.

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Anyway I would love to watch Tyron again in the boxing ring. He was known to have a striking footwork and I wander how much of it left to him after his lost fights. Regarding the odds, I would bet on Paul if it were not exhibition fight. 15 years difference and advantage in the reach makes him superior of Tyron.

Tyron Woodley is on a loosing streak in MMA and he is trying to make the maximum amount before retiring and hence you cannot complain him. Tyron Woodley was known for his knockout power but now it looks like he is not in the best physical condition whenever he fights because he is not having the same explosive power he had.

I wonder how this event will be affected after seeing a disappointing Mayweather vs Jake Paul's brother fight. Jake Paul might have some success in his previous exhibition fights but if people will stop watching their "show", they might not hit their target of PPV revenue.

Will this be another fight with no judges to score after the end of the fight?

This is an official fight. There will be judges and the outcome will permanently count on their record. Woodley, who is the underdog, can actually fight and there isn't a huge size difference so it should less awkward. A Mayweather fight being unpleasant to watch isn't anything new so I do not see it affecting the Paul vs. Woodley fight too much.

at least bookies will be encouraged to list this fight as there will be official read of the winner. unlike the Mayweather-Logan Paul, and to our dismay, a not-so-good exhibition fight. we are still seeing that these paul brothers find an 'easy' way to earn money via these exhibition fights. they are even paid higher than most professional boxers.
maybe this kind of hype will soon stop once professional boxing matches are in full force. we have had these exhibition fights owed to pandemic and just for boxing fans to watch while the boxing arena is not yet accepting the regular audience.

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I don't know why the OP consider this boxing fight to be easy cherry pick for Jake Paul because Tyron Woodley haven't have a professional boxing fight before and in my opinion and judging by the training of UFC fighter every UFC Champion is a boxer by nature.

Jake declared he will shock the world by beating Tyron but people to fight with mouth, they do it in the ring.

I agree although MMA fights are different from a boxing match that's why the rules, the technicals and other things that Tyron had been used to will all change and that advantage will all go to Jake.

But Tyron can easily adapt to boxing rules and Jake still shouldn't be considered a boxer yet cause this is all about the money not the fight which you also confirm about him and his brother generating a lot of viewership and money through their upcoming fight.

Tyron can box but rules are different from boxing and MMA and the strategies that he has been used to it are really different. This is the strategy of these Paul brothers to have those exhibitions for these athletes and play the sports that they're not really into it.

Only naive sports fans won't know that the rules of boxing is different from MMA and I believe Tyron will easily get used to boxing since MMA fighters are also trained like boxer during their throwing of the punch training session but for the creation of strategies that depend on Tyron trainer knowledge

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Well, it's true that this is just all about money and it doesn't matter who wins the game

Speaking the fight to be all about money, did you know that critics said the Mayweather straight punches through out of the fight he had with Jake Paul brother (Logan Paul) was 43 punches?

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Anyway I would love to watch Tyron again in the boxing ring. He was known to have a striking footwork and I wander how much of it left to him after his lost fights. Regarding the odds, I would bet on Paul if it were not exhibition fight. 15 years difference and advantage in the reach makes him superior of Tyron.

Tyron Woodley is on a loosing streak in MMA and he is trying to make the maximum amount before retiring and hence you cannot complain him. Tyron Woodley was known for his knockout power but now it looks like he is not in the best physical condition whenever he fights because he is not having the same explosive power he had.

I wonder how this event will be affected after seeing a disappointing Mayweather vs Jake Paul's brother fight. Jake Paul might have some success in his previous exhibition fights but if people will stop watching their "show", they might not hit their target of PPV revenue.

Will this be another fight with no judges to score after the end of the fight?

This is an official fight. There will be judges and the outcome will permanently count on their record. Woodley, who is the underdog, can actually fight and there isn't a huge size difference so it should less awkward. A Mayweather fight being unpleasant to watch isn't anything new so I do not see it affecting the Paul vs. Woodley fight too much.

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I don't know why the OP consider this boxing fight to be easy cherry pick for Jake Paul because Tyron Woodley haven't have a professional boxing fight before and in my opinion and judging by the training of UFC fighter every UFC Champion is a boxer by nature.

Jake declared he will shock the world by beating Tyron but people to fight with mouth, they do it in the ring.

I agree although MMA fights are different from a boxing match that's why the rules, the technicals and other things that Tyron had been used to will all change and that advantage will all go to Jake.

But Tyron can easily adapt to boxing rules and Jake still shouldn't be considered a boxer yet cause this is all about the money not the fight which you also confirm about him and his brother generating a lot of viewership and money through their upcoming fight.

Tyron can box but rules are different from boxing and MMA and the strategies that he has been used to it are really different. This is the strategy of these Paul brothers to have those exhibitions for these athletes and play the sports that they're not really into it. Well, it's true that this is just all about money and it doesn't matter who wins the game as long as they're both doing this for fun and after the match, things will go back to normal and they'll both take the money with them. That's for sure that there will be a lot of viewership and exposure on this match once it happens and some fans would scream for more Jake Paul or Logan Paul matches with another professional athlete as they've enjoyed it.

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Anyway I would love to watch Tyron again in the boxing ring. He was known to have a striking footwork and I wander how much of it left to him after his lost fights. Regarding the odds, I would bet on Paul if it were not exhibition fight. 15 years difference and advantage in the reach makes him superior of Tyron.

Tyron Woodley is on a loosing streak in MMA and he is trying to make the maximum amount before retiring and hence you cannot complain him. Tyron Woodley was known for his knockout power but now it looks like he is not in the best physical condition whenever he fights because he is not having the same explosive power he had.

I wonder how this event will be affected after seeing a disappointing Mayweather vs Jake Paul's brother fight. Jake Paul might have some success in his previous exhibition fights but if people will stop watching their "show", they might not hit their target of PPV revenue.

Will this be another fight with no judges to score after the end of the fight?

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Anyway I would love to watch Tyron again in the boxing ring. He was known to have a striking footwork and I wander how much of it left to him after his lost fights. Regarding the odds, I would bet on Paul if it were not exhibition fight. 15 years difference and advantage in the reach makes him superior of Tyron.

Tyron Woodley is on a loosing streak in MMA and he is trying to make the maximum amount before retiring and hence you cannot complain him. Tyron Woodley was known for his knockout power but now it looks like he is not in the best physical condition whenever he fights because he is not having the same explosive power he had.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on June 07, 2021, 04:16:31 AM

I don't think this will be an easy fight for Paul. It's an interesting match-up for sure.

If Jake wins, and wins by KO, his schizophrenia will open in full. He is already saying that he could "eat" Canelo Alvarez Grin

But if he wins, I'm sure he will claim himself as a God of Boxing.
We all know he is hyping and doing everything to get money. But one day he will face a real boxer and get handicapped in the ring.

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Quote from: cabron on June 06, 2021, 05:36:35 PM

Their ability to make hype just makes people more curious about fight results with these crossovers. Since the tart of Mcgregor vs Mayweather, there had been more on the line like Tyson vs Jones exhibition and although it's never really a real fight because sometimes it seems to feel like a WWE, people buy the tickets.
When we've seen everything on the internet, I guess people want something new like embarrassing the whole sports like MMA vs Boxing.

I very much agree with your statement.

Thank you for bringing the fight between McGregor vs Mayweather. I think all of these exhibition fights, indeed started with that fight as the media and their promoters saw the potential of earning big chunks of cash due to the media's portrayal of these people. After that fight, lots of other exhibition fights started to erupt and even crossover matches.

With that being said, I do think that in the future, we'll see another exhibition fight involving celebrities or boxing/mma legends.

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This is another, in my eyes, stupid fight that nobody is really waiting about. Especially as Woodley is not so famous but as others mention it is all about the money. Both Paul and Woodley can take home a nice pay check. Chances are maybe slim, but I hope Woodley can KO Paul.

Tyron Woodley was once a UFC champion, defended that title four times, but had lost to a former welterweight Kamaru Usman (current champ) by decision. You can be "not so famous" and be a champ. The only disadvantage of Woodley is that he is more wrestler than striker.

Quote from: freedomgo on June 02, 2021, 07:42:59 AM

Jake Paul will again win the fight against a former MMA figher.

According to wiki, Woodley is still an active fighter.

I wouldn't believe everything wikipedia says. He might not be officially retired as an MMA fighter but if he was still a current UFC fighter Dana likely wouldn't have let him fight as he's blocked at least a couple of fighters from match ups against Paul. I don't think Woodley will be a pushover for him like Askren was. I don't think this will be an easy fight for Paul. It's an interesting match-up for sure.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 05, 2021, 09:03:32 PM

That's exactly my point, good for them for making money, but there are proponents saying that it can destroy the sports, ex-MMA fighter or any other athlete.

So I guess it's up to the fans itself, if there could be cross over, if they want to patronize and buy tickets that is fine, on the other hand, some fans disagree. Well we might call them maximalists as well, staying to the true colors of sports.

Anyone who says it's destroying the sport are idiots. Don't watch it and just carry on watching the professionals if it's something you don't like. Complaining that it's negatively effecting the sport is like crying about pee wee or Sunday league football saying it's destroying the sport. It isn't. It's just an amateur alternative. Even Tyson Fury says it's good for the sport as it gets more people interested and paying money to watch it and it certainly doesn't effect the big players. In fact, it's more money for them when they chose to get involved.

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Quote from: cabron on June 06, 2021, 05:36:35 PM

Their ability to make hype just makes people more curious about fight results with these crossovers. Since the tart of Mcgregor vs Mayweather, there had been more on the line like Tyson vs Jones exhibition and although it's never really a real fight because sometimes it seems to feel like a WWE, people buy the tickets.
When we've seen everything on the internet, I guess people want something new like embarrassing the whole sports like MMA vs Boxing.

After all it is all entertainment and if these performers are giving you the entertainment and forget the stress for an hour and if they are giving then it is more than enough and so is the reason we are seeing these kind of cross over fights and Conor McGregor was the high profile cross over even though there were many that happened but never garnered the same hype and now everyone is looking for those kind of opportunities.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on June 06, 2021, 01:57:43 PM

Just a quick question, what is with these Paul brothers and their fights in boxing?

I mean, every time they get involved in a fight or something, the media explodes and tries to hype their fight. I find it so bad that their fight is way more advertised compared to some good old underrated fights in the boxing. In addition, both Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley aren't even boxers to begin with, while the latter being a MMA fighter.

However, I do agree that the reason on why they are advertised this much is because people are willing to watch them. The fame that the Paul brothers garnered due to their YouTube Platform enables to participate into these fights due to the sheer number of their fans willing to purchase tickets and watch them fight.

Their ability to make hype just makes people more curious about fight results with these crossovers. Since the tart of Mcgregor vs Mayweather, there had been more on the line like Tyson vs Jones exhibition and although it's never really a real fight because sometimes it seems to feel like a WWE, people buy the tickets.
When we've seen everything on the internet, I guess people want something new like embarrassing the whole sports like MMA vs Boxing.

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I mean, every time they get involved in a fight or something, the media explodes and tries to hype their fight. I find it so bad that their fight is way more advertised compared to some good old underrated fights in the boxing. In addition, both Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley aren't even boxers to begin with, while the latter being a MMA fighter.

All the promoters are trying to achieve the same, to have more viewers so that they could make money and the funny thing is that some amateurs who knows marketing very well have taken the bull that no one in the professional side was able to and they are able to create huge hype whenever they fight even though they are amateur fighters which is a huge deal.

All the fighters who shed their blood and sweat will be jealous with the Paul brothers with the way in which they are able to make millions with ease while some of the fighters might need to fighter for several years to get to the million dollars Grin

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Now, they are finding another way to get easy money is to stage these exhibition fights.
I believe, sooner or later, people will get tired of watching this type of fight.
Maybe, it is still selling because people are still paying to watch them.
However, now that a lot of professional boxing matches are starting to lined up, I guess, these exhibition matches will slowly disappear.
So these promoters as well as non prof boxers should take this opportunity while their fans are still interested to pay their fights.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on June 06, 2021, 01:57:43 PM

I mean, every time they get involved in a fight or something, the media explodes and tries to hype their fight. I find it so bad that their fight is way more advertised compared to some good old underrated fights in the boxing. In addition, both Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley aren't even boxers to begin with, while the latter being a MMA fighter.

All the promoters are trying to achieve the same, to have more viewers so that they could make money and the funny thing is that some amateurs who knows marketing very well have taken the bull that no one in the professional side was able to and they are able to create huge hype whenever they fight even though they are amateur fighters which is a huge deal.

All the fighters who shed their blood and sweat will be jealous with the Paul brothers with the way in which they are able to make millions with ease while some of the fighters might need to fighter for several years to get to the million dollars Grin

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Just a quick question, what is with these Paul brothers and their fights in boxing?

I mean, every time they get involved in a fight or something, the media explodes and tries to hype their fight. I find it so bad that their fight is way more advertised compared to some good old underrated fights in the boxing. In addition, both Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley aren't even boxers to begin with, while the latter being a MMA fighter.

However, I do agree that the reason on why they are advertised this much is because people are willing to watch them. The fame that the Paul brothers garnered due to their YouTube Platform enables to participate into these fights due to the sheer number of their fans willing to purchase tickets and watch them fight.

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I don't know why the OP consider this boxing fight to be easy cherry pick for Jake Paul because Tyron Woodley haven't have a professional boxing fight before and in my opinion and judging by the training of UFC fighter every UFC Champion is a boxer by nature.

Jake declared he will shock the world by beating Tyron but people to fight with mouth, they do it in the ring.

Though they are boxers by nature they cannot beat a real boxer in the ring.

Yes and I don't disagree with you about it but Jake Paul shouldn't be consider as a real boxer at the moment though he's does well in some of his previous fight.

Quote from: freedomgo on June 05, 2021, 11:30:57 AM

We've seen the best boxer and the best MMA fighter fighting in the ring, and the result was obvious.
I'm talking about the Mayweather vs McGregor fight that brought a lot of attention to the fans, some maybe got fooled by putting a bet on McGregor to win.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/mayweather-mcgregor

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The day after the fight became official, Mayweather’s odds shrunk all the way down to -600, while McGregor’s value has been chopped down to +400.

look at the betting odds, you'll see some believe that McGregor could pull an upset.

This happens because people don't face the fact about Mayweather's records and make their predictions based on McGregor's influential level.

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I don't know why the OP consider this boxing fight to be easy cherry pick for Jake Paul because Tyron Woodley haven't have a professional boxing fight before and in my opinion and judging by the training of UFC fighter every UFC Champion is a boxer by nature.

Jake declared he will shock the world by beating Tyron but people to fight with mouth, they do it in the ring.

I agree although MMA fights are different from a boxing match that's why the rules, the technicals and other things that Tyron had been used to will all change and that advantage will all go to Jake.

But Tyron can easily adapt to boxing rules and Jake still shouldn't be considered a boxer yet cause this is all about the money not the fight which you also confirm about him and his brother generating a lot of viewership and money through their upcoming fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 05, 2021, 09:03:32 PM

So I guess it's up to the fans itself, if there could be cross over, if they want to patronize and buy tickets that is fine, on the other hand, some fans disagree. Well we might call them maximalists as well, staying to the true colors of sports.

It's really up to the fans if they continue to buy tickets and watch this kind of match, there are still many exhibition matches coming even if these matches are not yet over, they are good at promoting these kinds of fights because these Youtubers has a huge fan base and people watch to see something new, they are a celebrities and we love watching whatever these celebrities are doing.

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These Paul brothers are making deals that will have them a lot of viewership and money too. Expect that there will be more of these professional MMA fighters fight in a boxing match. I think that's their strategy to have at least get a clout which is very interesting for most of their fans and people who have also following them just because of this entertainment that they bring.

It is true that the Paul brothers have created a niche market for themselves as they are able to attract huge crowds whenever they put together a fight and it is not a small thing and all the upcoming talents should learn from them on how to promote their brand and they are picking fights smartly as well, from celebrities to MMA champions of the past even though they are well past their prime they know that it will bring them money.

They really had made their branding through this type of match blow. And I don't know how the idea started out but they're all in for algorithms in real life and they've simply applied it but in return with a physical touch which is fair and okay to them. I think the other YTbers that will have the same thought as them might do this type of challenging with other professional athletes to fight but not against their active sport practice. It's the handicap that they're applying with other athletes but for some like with Floyd, they really are giving that challenge up and for sure the money involve is really big.

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And this are not going to stop, as long as people are willing to buy tickets and the Paul brothers solidifying this niche that they build, it will go on and will bring out retired fighters or non fighters to challenge them.

Why not this is a good opportunity for fighters past their prime to make money again, Robinson Askrem are just two of the fighters that are past their prime but made easy money from this kind of fights Woodley has a run of losses and he needs something to catch the attention of people and continue to make money, it's a risky fight for him, he should hurry and practice his boxing, there is no grappling here, but he can hug. Cheesy

That's exactly my point, good for them for making money, but there are proponents saying that it can destroy the sports, ex-MMA fighter or any other athlete.

So I guess it's up to the fans itself, if there could be cross over, if they want to patronize and buy tickets that is fine, on the other hand, some fans disagree. Well we might call them maximalists as well, staying to the true colors of sports.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 05, 2021, 07:02:00 PM

And this are not going to stop, as long as people are willing to buy tickets and the Paul brothers solidifying this niche that they build, it will go on and will bring out retired fighters or non fighters to challenge them.

Why not this is a good opportunity for fighters past their prime to make money again, Robinson Askrem are just two of the fighters that are past their prime but made easy money from this kind of fights Woodley has a run of losses and he needs something to catch the attention of people and continue to make money, it's a risky fight for him, he should hurry and practice his boxing, there is no grappling here, but he can hug. Cheesy

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 05, 2021, 05:42:25 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 05, 2021, 03:23:48 PM

These Paul brothers are making deals that will have them a lot of viewership and money too. Expect that there will be more of these professional MMA fighters fight in a boxing match. I think that's their strategy to have at least get a clout which is very interesting for most of their fans and people who have also following them just because of this entertainment that they bring.

It is true that the Paul brothers have created a niche market for themselves as they are able to attract huge crowds whenever they put together a fight and it is not a small thing and all the upcoming talents should learn from them on how to promote their brand and they are picking fights smartly as well, from celebrities to MMA champions of the past even though they are well past their prime they know that it will bring them money.

Not just professional MMA fighters, but there could be other sports personalities willing to put their hands on the cookie jar and take a bit of these so called exhibitions matches by the Paul brothers to somewhat bring some money.

And this are not going to stop, as long as people are willing to buy tickets and the Paul brothers solidifying this niche that they build, it will go on and will bring out retired fighters or non fighters to challenge them.

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