Topic: [Boxing] Joshua Franco vs Kazuto Ioka WBA World Superfly (June 24) (Read 284 times)

Quote from: coin-investor on June 24, 2023, 07:47:27 AM

Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

The obvious penalty for him not making weight is that he was stripped of his WBA belt, other than that i don't have any knowledge but there is no news yet that the fight will be cancelled because of Franco's disqualification. If Team Franco will do their best to trim the excess weight which is 6 pounds, that would be disastrous for him.

I have already put my bet, Ioka by decision @2.70, hope this fight will push through.

Goodluck on your bet, adding extra weight might work both ways though,

a) the added weight might help Franco specially in the power division and maybe he can withstand the power punches of Ioka in return. But maybe if the fight goes to distance he might tire and not put the volume that he wanted against the accuracy of Ioka.

b) the added weight will make him sloppy in this fight as he is not accustomed to as the last fight was at 115 lbs.

So we will see which scenario will likely take shape in the fight.

Don't know the real score on how they treat the 6 lbs overweight but it worked on the disadvantage of Franco. He seems slow tonight and those body shots by Ioka might have contributed to it but in fairness to Ioka, he never backed down on the bigger Franco, he weighs bantamweight tonight but still the Japanese emerged as the winner, my speculation that Ioka will win because Franco is not in condition paid off hehe.

Congrats to those who bet for Ioka and thanks to robelneo for the link of the fight.

So we found our answer already, it's the second scenario, the added weight didn't bring any significant advantage to Joshua and on the contrary as I have said, he become sloppy fighting Kazuto.

And again good that you have change your mind and bet for Ioka, we thought that Franco could have learn from his past mistakes, but then again, as others boxers experiencing weight issues, in the end it's not going to end very well for them.

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Congratulations to Kazuto Ioka! I don't understand what they are saying, but judging by how the fight unfolded, I believe Kazuto Ioka won via unanimous decision.

Yes, Kazuto won via a unanimous decision over Franco 116-112 twice, 115-113, Franco is very slow and obviously, Ioka is dominating the fight, the additional weight for Franco did not work for Franco's advantage, I guess this settle the fight, Joshua can move up as he cannot keep up making the super flyweight anymore.

Congratulation to Ioka and those who bet on him.

Looking at the score, it's not as dominating though, and it seems that Ioka really shows a lot in this fight. And it's true the additional weight didn't work and on the contrary it might have hamper his performance as he was not throwing the volume that we used to see him at this weight class.

And maybe Franco will go up in weight as high as super bantamweight because he clock in at almost 122 lbs.

That is going to be a big jump for him and that weight class is pretty much stack up at this point.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 24, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

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Congratulations to Kazuto Ioka! I don't understand what they are saying, but judging by how the fight unfolded, I believe Kazuto Ioka won via unanimous decision.

Yes, Kazuto won via a unanimous decision over Franco 116-112 twice, 115-113, Franco is very slow and obviously, Ioka is dominating the fight, the additional weight for Franco did not work for Franco's advantage, I guess this settle the fight, Joshua can move up as he cannot keep up making the super flyweight anymore.

Congratulation to Ioka and those who bet on him.

Man! I don't know if I lost this fight or not because I surely thought that this fight will happen tomorrow and not tonight, I could've rode the wave and bet in-favor of Kazuto Ioka as I know he will have the fight in his favor despite the draw on their first encounter.

Anyway, congratulations to all the bettors who bet in-favor of Kazuto Ioka.

I wasn't able to ride on Ioka for a decision win, nevertheless congrats to those who won because it was a very attractive odd.

No excuses for Franco losing this one, maybe he can attribute it to his extra weight. But we should give credit to the Japanese here. He really wanted to get this win and so he pushes for the fight despite the issues with the weight.

And now he will have to face either another Japanese in Nakatani or the winner of the Martinez vs Jade Bornea for the IBF belt and unification.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 24, 2023, 07:47:27 AM

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Congratulations to Kazuto Ioka! I don't understand what they are saying, but judging by how the fight unfolded, I believe Kazuto Ioka won via unanimous decision.

Yes, Kazuto won via a unanimous decision over Franco 116-112 twice, 115-113, Franco is very slow and obviously, Ioka is dominating the fight, the additional weight for Franco did not work for Franco's advantage, I guess this settle the fight, Joshua can move up as he cannot keep up making the super flyweight anymore.

Congratulation to Ioka and those who bet on him.

Man! I don't know if I lost this fight or not because I surely thought that this fight will happen tomorrow and not tonight, I could've rode the wave and bet in-favor of Kazuto Ioka as I know he will have the fight in his favor despite the draw on their first encounter.

Anyway, congratulations to all the bettors who bet in-favor of Kazuto Ioka.

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Congratulations to Kazuto Ioka! I don't understand what they are saying, but judging by how the fight unfolded, I believe Kazuto Ioka won via unanimous decision.

Yes, Kazuto won via a unanimous decision over Franco 116-112 twice, 115-113, Franco is very slow and obviously, Ioka is dominating the fight, the additional weight for Franco did not work for Franco's advantage, I guess this settle the fight, Joshua can move up as he cannot keep up making the super flyweight anymore.

Congratulation to Ioka and those who bet on him.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 24, 2023, 04:46:51 AM

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Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

The obvious penalty for him not making weight is that he was stripped of his WBA belt, other than that i don't have any knowledge but there is no news yet that the fight will be cancelled because of Franco's disqualification. If Team Franco will do their best to trim the excess weight which is 6 pounds, that would be disastrous for him.

I have already put my bet, Ioka by decision @2.70, hope this fight will push through.

Goodluck on your bet, adding extra weight might work both ways though,

a) the added weight might help Franco specially in the power division and maybe he can withstand the power punches of Ioka in return. But maybe if the fight goes to distance he might tire and not put the volume that he wanted against the accuracy of Ioka.

b) the added weight will make him sloppy in this fight as he is not accustomed to as the last fight was at 115 lbs.

So we will see which scenario will likely take shape in the fight.

Don't know the real score on how they treat the 6 lbs overweight but it worked on the disadvantage of Franco. He seems slow tonight and those body shots by Ioka might have contributed to it but in fairness to Ioka, he never backed down on the bigger Franco, he weighs bantamweight tonight but still the Japanese emerged as the winner, my speculation that Ioka will win because Franco is not in condition paid off hehe.

Congrats to those who bet for Ioka and thanks to robelneo for the link of the fight.

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Congratulations to Kazuto Ioka! I don't understand what they are saying, but judging by how the fight unfolded, I believe Kazuto Ioka won via unanimous decision.

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The match will not be as exciting compared to if both fighters have a crack at the title but nevertheless, the fight will continue with Ioka as the one with a chance to win the title but still good to watch as both fighters are not backing out and they are always ready to engage.

For a live feed of the fight here it is, just turn off the volume because of the noise because the video comes straight from a gym and there's also a dog barking in the background Cheesy

hope they can keep the feed alive until the announcement of the winner.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 23, 2023, 11:42:45 PM

Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

The obvious penalty for him not making weight is that he was stripped of his WBA belt, other than that i don't have any knowledge but there is no news yet that the fight will be cancelled because of Franco's disqualification. If Team Franco will do their best to trim the excess weight which is 6 pounds, that would be disastrous for him.

I have already put my bet, Ioka by decision @2.70, hope this fight will push through.

Goodluck on your bet, adding extra weight might work both ways though,

a) the added weight might help Franco specially in the power division and maybe he can withstand the power punches of Ioka in return. But maybe if the fight goes to distance he might tire and not put the volume that he wanted against the accuracy of Ioka.

b) the added weight will make him sloppy in this fight as he is not accustomed to as the last fight was at 115 lbs.

So we will see which scenario will likely take shape in the fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 23, 2023, 05:20:18 PM

Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

The obvious penalty for him not making weight is that he was stripped of his WBA belt, other than that i don't have any knowledge but there is no news yet that the fight will be cancelled because of Franco's disqualification. If Team Franco will do their best to trim the excess weight which is 6 pounds, that would be disastrous for him.

I have already put my bet, Ioka by decision @2.70, hope this fight will push through.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 23, 2023, 11:10:44 AM

Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

Depends on the situation because there are some cases that a boxer will be given at least a few couple of hours to finalize their weight and eventually, they are able sunk their body according to the needed weight and will able to continue the fight.

But in some cases, boxer's aren't given the same chance and will just have to fight each other for the sake of their fan bases that paid to watch them especially if they were the finale. Just like what happened to Shakur Stevenson before he climbed the next weight class.

6.7 pounds is so hard to put out with limited time but they agreed to continue the fight with Ioka the only one eligible to win the title, but Franco will have a slight advantage because of the added weight, it somewhat lessens the motivation for a fighter that has an excess weight and not eligible for the title anymore,

Here is what his camp says

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“In the next two hours we will know how far we can make it. We just want to try to go make weight, focus on the fight and get everything over with. It hasn’t been an easy week. It’s been pretty tough.

it would have been great if Franco could still reach the weight limit but I doubt it will have consequences if they force it, so better continue just let it be and concentrate on the fight.

His body just shuts down, and so no more losing of that extra poundage on his body in 24 hours because it could be detrimental to his health and maybe can't fight that well if they force his body to go 115 lbs.

At least Ioka go with it, he doesn't want the fight not happening because he said that he has work very very hard because he badly wanted to win. So Franco is strip of the belt already but Ioka still has a chance to get that and put in his waist if he wins this fight.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 23, 2023, 11:10:44 AM

Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

Yes, he can still fight against Ioka, but he has been stripped of his belt already. And then the winner fighting the mandatory, another Japanese in Junto Nakatani. According to the reports, their is some miscommunication with regards to the fight and they camp of Franco was told that the fight might not push through.

Good thing though is the Ioka didn't postponed the fight and said that he is in the best shape of his life, so they might as well fight. And all advantage is on him here, so i do agree if you will shift your bet for the Japanese now.

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Personally, i changed my mind and will now bet for the Japanese as the percentage of him winning got higher with this news of Franco not making the weight.

What would be the penalty for him not making weight? Can he still make the fight happen? I was thinking if a boxer does not make it to the weigh-in, that would result in disqualification. Maybe my knowledge is not correct.

Depends on the situation because there are some cases that a boxer will be given at least a few couple of hours to finalize their weight and eventually, they are able sunk their body according to the needed weight and will able to continue the fight.

But in some cases, boxer's aren't given the same chance and will just have to fight each other for the sake of their fan bases that paid to watch them especially if they were the finale. Just like what happened to Shakur Stevenson before he climbed the next weight class.

6.7 pounds is so hard to put out with limited time but they agreed to continue the fight with Ioka the only one eligible to win the title, but Franco will have a slight advantage because of the added weight, it somewhat lessens the motivation for a fighter that has an excess weight and not eligible for the title anymore,

Here is what his camp says

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“In the next two hours we will know how far we can make it. We just want to try to go make weight, focus on the fight and get everything over with. It hasn’t been an easy week. It’s been pretty tough.

it would have been great if Franco could still reach the weight limit but I doubt it will have consequences if they force it, so better continue just let it be and concentrate on the fight.

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