Topic: [Boxing]: Taylor vs Catterall - May 26 - page 2. (Read 344 times)

For the record Taylor only has one loss and its against Teofimo Lopez but Caterall is not Teofimo so I don't rule out Taylor yet, when you're a boxer and you are fighting a fighter you once beaten the psychological advantage is on your side, although the fight is too close both fighters will make a good adjustment, since they have learned a lot from their last fight.

Taylor needs to win this fight to get into contention for another title shot and Caterall will try to prove that he is the winner of the first fight by trying to dominate Taylor.

Usually when there is a rematch the fight will take off where they left with some adjustment to favor them so its will another an all out of winner take all fight between the two.

Meanwhile this is the open work out live stream of their fight
JOSH TAYLOR VS. JACK CATTERALL 2 OPEN WORKOUTS LIVESTREAM

That's right, I also slightly favoring Catterall now, it looks like Josh Taylor is really on the verge of retirement and maybe after this fight and losing he might be thinking of hanging up his gloves for good.

He has been damage already in the first fight and we all know how he lost his last belt to Teo Lopez and now he had injuries that this fight is postpone again. But fortunately, it was move and rescheduled and this is fight week already. So let's see how Taylor will look like in this fight. If Catterall really prepared in this fight, he could be looking for a knockout win here.

What a turn of events for this fight. I mean it started as Josh Taylor as the odds favorite, but it seems that the betting is leaning towards Jack Catterall as it seems that he is the bigger man now because Josh Taylor could really be just breathing some in this division as he could have a problem making weight at 140 lbs.

Yes, I do agree, it's better to put money on Jack Catterall now, I haven't check the line for a decision win, but I guess that's what I'm going to bet if it is more attracted than a ML bet. They are domestic rivals others have pointed out, they have to settle a lot of things regarding their rivalry specially that the first fight is controversial.

As of this writing, Catterall is now the slight favorite with an ML odds of 1.63 while the odds if we bet for Taylor is 2.14. Basing on their latest fights, i think i'm more inclined to bet for Catterall as Taylor is on a decline basing on what we saw on their last bouts. Though not a championship fight but i do believe that this fight is worth watching for those who love this sport of boxing as they have unfinish business.

BTW, the fight will be in a few days, this weekend to be specific.

Taylor was the slight favorite in the beginning as posted by the OP. So that lost to Lopez was already accounted for by sport bookies. But with another postponement and with Taylor reasoning that it was due to another injury, the odd maker shift it more to Catterall now and so it's almost 50:50 now. But I do agree that this is not going to be a snoozer fight, both might really take it personal and hate each other and likely wanted to take each other's head off because they are rivals. However, for me Taylor might have lost some step as well, and he is in the division that is very stack-up, 140-147 lbs.

This fight though is more of domestic rivalry, both are from England and so they are buying for their own respective fans. And I think it will sell locally, but not sure if it will be worldwide success as some fans are not familiar with Jack Catterall.

Nevertheless, it will be good for their local fans as they have been waiting for this rematch for sure. Taylor narrowly beat Catterall the first time but it was a close decision and others says that Catterall should have won that fight but the judges elected to give to the then champion Taylor. So no belts in the line but the fight is still very exciting and intriguing to see the outcome.

As there is no belt on the line, they need to make noise for this match. And trash talking is one of the easiest routes to make boxing fans interested. Taylor lost the belt to Lopez, hence, the odds now are seemingly 50/50. Maybe in some bookies, they will favour Taylor a lil bit. But I guess, I'll just watch this fight and not bet. The bad blood between them is said to be personal, but that's their business. So long they will give a toe-to-toe fight and not a boring one, I guess boxing aficionados will watch their fight. We will know what will happen next for Taylor's boxing career, if in case, he will lose this one. Maybe, hang his gloves or continue to fight. He's only 33, so he has still few years that he can be active before finally calling it a day.

Right, thanks for this bump and yeah this has been postponed with a new date and so I updated it as well. I do agree, and as we have been discussing, there could be fans who think that Catterall took everything from Taylor in this fight, because after this, Taylor was very different as he lost the belt to Teo Lopez.

And so there are no belts but personal pride is on the line between the two and as we can see during the press conference, there are a lot of trash talking. And Catterall even spoke that Taylor is faking his injury and doesn't want to face him. But everything has been settled that the new date is May 26.

Thanks for bumping this thread I saw this in my feed, and I remember there was a thread created for this match. This may not be a title match, but it has all the excitement; just like a World title, it is a grudge match, and we boxing fans love it when there are personal reasons involved; there are so many thrash talks between the two parties, the Usyk - Fury is coming, and after that fight, we have this fight to carry on our excitement in boxing, this is a great month for boxing fans.
I have a feeling that the fights of the year will be those that happened in April or May.

I thought that this fight has ended already, but when I checked it has moved to May 25.


https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/39731042/josh-taylor-injured-rematch-vs-jack-catterall-ppd

And with that, the odds as per Stake, it's now 50/50 at 1.86. It looks like Josh Taylor though has seen better days and the wear and tear is not affecting his body. So I wouldn't be surprised if Catterall finally get the numbers here against his arch nemesis.

Jack Catterall though is the younger if I'm not mistaken, and is not yet a battle torn fighter as compare to Josh Taylor. Who have to go to a lot to unify all the belts and I do agree that it might have added a negative effect to him as he looks like experiencing a burn-out after accomplishing it.

Of course, every boxer wanted to score a knockout win against their opponents, that is the goal in every fight. But not every night it will present itself and so you need to have plan B and be as dominant as you can and maybe the knockout will come. If not then the judges will score and hopefully you did your best. This is huge fight in UK as they are domestic rivals and so maybe a trilogy is possible because of the money that they can made and before Josh Taylor retire.

They just need to unleash it all here so that the fans will hype and whoever gonna wins this one, should not reach the official's decisions, in other words, it should be a TKO because there's no point in having a trilogy at this stage of their careers since they are at the peak of it and all they need to do is exert all effort to win their match since they are being overshadowed with the other boxers' popularity and they cannot seems to get a huge fights which everyone getting nowadays, I'm talking the middle eastern one where the payment is huge. All they need to do is get themselves off those contracts before they retire.

Added it as well to the OP, thanks for the suggestion (running out of merit, I will try to get back at you,  ).


Yes, it look like Josh has lost some step and his mind is no longer in boxing. While Catterall wanted to get his revenge against him in this fight. Nevertheless, the odd makers might see something in Josh Taylor as they put him as slight favorite again, not like in the first fight wherein Josh was a huge favorite. Who knows, if this is anther close and controversial fight, they might go for a trilogy. But it depends on the numbers that they are going to put in this fight. If it is promising as if it says that fight wants are willing to buy then maybe a 3rd fight might happen.

Yes, all of the sudden Josh Taylor looks old and past his prime against Teo Lopez and so he lost his belt just like that. He used to be the unified champion here, having all the belts, and then vacated the two if I'm not mistaken.

And so with this fight, we will see if Catterall can vindicate himself or at least shows us the he is indeed declared to be the winner in their fight. Only consolidation for him as there are no more belts in the line and probably this is the reason why Josh Taylor give him the rematch. Even if he losses, Catterall has nothing to gain except the bragging rights that he beat Josh in their rematch.

If Catterall will indeed prepare this fight seriously, the chance of getting an upset win is very likely. As the odds is not very wide, it means, bookies are on the side that they may have equal footing if both are getting inside the ring prepared. Both boxers have good KO percentage also, but Taylor is higher than Catterall. So Taylor needs to KO Catterall at the very early rounds to get a sure win. Otherwise, if this will go the distance, Catterall can get this match on his favour.

Thanks for sharing the updated betting odds, you can also add it in the OP just for reference.

Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

And so Eddie Hearn is comparing the grudge match on Froch vs Groves,


https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-catterall-hearn-echoes-froch-groves--181597

But I think this is different though, there was no knockout or knockdown in the fight and it was just Jack Catterall is a bad match-up for Josh Taylor that time and we might say he could have underestimate Jack that time.

I would also agree that this is a big fight for either, Catterall to get up in the rankings for 140 lbs and even become a mandatory, and then for Josh, he needed this big win, to at least have a future fight in 140-147 lbs as a lost would obviously will obviously take a big toll on him mentally.

There are a lot of emotions during the face-off, both camp are very eager to face each other and there are a lot of words being thrown at each other before this fight. And so this is not just a taunt but they are talking this matter very personal specially Jack Catterall as he believed he was robbed in the first fight and that he should have been a champion already, so just imagine the emotions and his mentality that it took years for this fight to happen, but this time there are no belt but just bragging rights in the line. There has been a lot of domestic rivalries in UK though, so this could be one in the books. And who knows, if Jack won here there could be another fight to really settle the scores.  Some notable domestic rivalries  is Chris Eubank vs Nigel Benn, Khan vs Kell Brook, Eubank Jr vs Liam Smith.

You're just stating the fact he does look old it has something to do with his training yes this is one of the evidence that Taylor is trying to cut weight he needs to maintain a weight that is nearest to his ideal weight a week before the weigh-in so he can make the 140 in a gradual manner, so instead of being in his natural weight during the training and just to drastically cut weight one or two weeks before the fight.

Taylor is doing it right, the 147 weight two weeks before the fight is an ideal weight he can easily make the cut and rehydrate in time for the fight, what happened in the press conference was expected because Caterall cannot accept the defeat it was a very controversial win considering that all titles are at stake then, it's a big frustration for Caterall and he shows it in the press conference.

Not only that, there was a slapping incident at the press conference, Caterall just could not control himself from Taylor's taunt it's only 7 days before the fight the thrash talk will continue I just hope this time they will settle once and for all who is the better fighter I hope Taylor can make the weigh-in I like to see his move and his movement in the weigh, you can easily tell if a boxer will struggle in the ring, the weigh-in is an indication.
here is the video of that slap
Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall - EXPLOSIVE First Face-Off