[Boxing] Teofimo Lopez vs Steve Claggett WBO Super Lightweight Title - June 29

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 05, 2024, 07:43:17 AM

But in the end you are right that the fight ended with full 12 round finish, there was one good opportunity in the 12th round for Lopez to beat Claggett by knockout but it all failed and Lopez victory only ended with unanimous decision.
Since the first round the fight was really fierce but Lopez was far superior with the aggressiveness of quite lot of punches, this is what gave Lopez points advantage and won to retain his championship title.

Lopez was superior indeed but that unanimous win by Lopez is not what the majority of us are expecting, i mean Claggett is tailored fit for Lopez's style as the former was aggressive and yet Lopez failed to knock out the always-forward style of Claggett.

Lopez's future lies on the hands of Top Rank now whether he will move up in weight to fight Crawford or clean this division before moving up, we will just wait and see.

Locking this thread now and as always thanks to those who contributed for this thread to be alive.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 05, 2024, 07:43:17 AM

Quote from: Natalim on June 26, 2024, 01:29:19 AM

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Teofimo Lopez and Steve Claggett both have quite high knockout ratios and are almost equal, anyone would also believe that they would not fight the full 12 rounds because the finish would definitely end in knockout.

Nowadays, a boxer with a 65% KO ratio is not already considered as high. IMO, a high is 90% up.

As per boxrec, Lopez has 65% Ko ratio while Claggett have %68... So both fighters are not really a KO artist, and this could go to distance.
Well, we never know what would happen but I like the chances of Lopez winning the fight again.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/469170
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/776269

Based on the odds also, this could be a mismatch.

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Teofimo Lopez vs Steve Claggett Odds
Fighter   Odds
Teofimo Lopez   -1100
Steve Claggett   +650

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/teofimo-lopez-vs-steve-claggett-prediction-odds-how-to-watch-june-29/

But at least that is number that is more than 50% ratio because with ratio of more than 65% it can be proof that the chances of winning by knockout can be greater, it just that this is only ratio from calculating the track record between the fighters and I judge it based on what I know.
It not guarantee, but it only prediction and anything can happen easily and it can't be according to expectations, we can only predict and estimate it, for the results we have to really wait for the fight to be finished.

But in the end you are right that the fight ended with full 12 round finish, there was one good opportunity in the 12th round for Lopez to beat Claggett by knockout but it all failed and Lopez victory only ended with unanimous decision.
Since the first round the fight was really fierce but Lopez was far superior with the aggressiveness of quite lot of punches, this is what gave Lopez points advantage and won to retain his championship title.

Knockout percentage isn't enough to tell us whether a bout ends up in KO or not. There are factors that affect that. Moving up in weight could take significant power from a boxer. Age is another factor. The opponent is also a factor. In the case of Teofimo, he was only a knockout artist early in his career that's why he's got a high percentage. But then he was only able to knockout an unknown Campa since his UD win over Loma in 2020.

Add to it that Claggett is a hard man to knockout. Although aggressive, which should have been an advantage to Teofimo's knockout opportunity, the man wasn't even knocked down. Had he been throwing more punches instead of just staying in front of Lopez all the time covering up, he could have scored better.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 05, 2024, 03:17:22 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 05, 2024, 01:11:22 AM

@Natalim. Agreed! Pitbull fights very much similar to Mike Tyson when Tyson was younger. However, what Pitbull does not have in his style is Mike Tyson's footwork and head movement. Teo will certainly give him organic eye glasses from all of the punches to Pitbull's eyes heheheh. Also, on Pitbull's style he should he very careful because he will have brain damage if he does not include head movement and footwork to avoid punches of his opponents, I reckon.

He had head movement and a good chin and obviously has power. And they are totally different style with George Kambosos for me, and somewhat I think Pitbull is technical as well. He knows how to parry shots and again good head movement.

So it will be like Claggett all over again for Teo but this time, he will be facing a power puncher so he should not stick to the style that he uses against Claggett of letting him be in the corner and then Pitbull just bulldozing his way and hitting Lopez with power shots.

I very much disagree that Pitbull has very good headmovment because very good headmovement for a boxer should he something similar to young Mike Tyson who was trained by Cus Amato, Teddy Atlas and has perfected the headmovement with Kevin Rooney. Mike Tyson was difficult to punch on the head and he was very fast to avoid punches also because he had the best footwork of any heavyweight boxer in all of the history of this sport.

Pit Bull is very easy to punch on the head and he does not use very much headmovement because he has a strong jaw. However, this will not be very strong when it has received many punches. There will be a boxer that will give him a knockout within 5 years.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 05, 2024, 08:55:06 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on July 05, 2024, 03:17:22 AM

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@Natalim. Agreed! Pitbull fights very much similar to Mike Tyson when Tyson was younger. However, what Pitbull does not have in his style is Mike Tyson's footwork and head movement. Teo will certainly give him organic eye glasses from all of the punches to Pitbull's eyes heheheh. Also, on Pitbull's style he should he very careful because he will have brain damage if he does not include head movement and footwork to avoid punches of his opponents, I reckon.

He had head movement and a good chin and obviously has power. And they are totally different style with George Kambosos for me, and somewhat I think Pitbull is technical as well. He knows how to parry shots and again good head movement.

So it will be like Claggett all over again for Teo but this time, he will be facing a power puncher so he should not stick to the style that he uses against Claggett of letting him be in the corner and then Pitbull just bulldozing his way and hitting Lopez with power shots.

We define him too literal because of his alias which is "Pitbull". As I understand it, that means "attack", and that's the style I saw on him. I think He is just different and since he is a champion, that proved that he is not an ordinary boxer. In fact, he was already proven as he went toe to toe against Davis and some fans even think that he was robbed in that fight.

True, there could be boxing pundits who think that Pitbull won against Davis, but later we found out that Tank had suffered a injury in his hands that's why he can't throw as much as he can in that fight.

But against Rolly Romero, who was simply bullied by Pitbull because he has chin and power and Romero can't do anything about the aggressive and "attack" mode of Pitbull Cruz. And that's why as boxing fans, we are interested to see how he will do with a similar type of fighter in Claggett but with devasting one punch knockout. And it seems that Teo is willing to risk as he called out Pitbull Cruz and hopefully Arum is willing as well to go down and talk to the camp of Cruz for unification fight.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 05, 2024, 03:17:22 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 05, 2024, 01:11:22 AM

@Natalim. Agreed! Pitbull fights very much similar to Mike Tyson when Tyson was younger. However, what Pitbull does not have in his style is Mike Tyson's footwork and head movement. Teo will certainly give him organic eye glasses from all of the punches to Pitbull's eyes heheheh. Also, on Pitbull's style he should he very careful because he will have brain damage if he does not include head movement and footwork to avoid punches of his opponents, I reckon.

He had head movement and a good chin and obviously has power. And they are totally different style with George Kambosos for me, and somewhat I think Pitbull is technical as well. He knows how to parry shots and again good head movement.

So it will be like Claggett all over again for Teo but this time, he will be facing a power puncher so he should not stick to the style that he uses against Claggett of letting him be in the corner and then Pitbull just bulldozing his way and hitting Lopez with power shots.

We define him too literal because of his alias which is "Pitbull". As I understand it, that means "attack", and that's the style I saw on him. I think He is just different and since he is a champion, that proved that he is not an ordinary boxer. In fact, he was already proven as he went toe to toe against Davis and some fans even think that he was robbed in that fight.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 26, 2024, 01:29:19 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on June 26, 2024, 01:17:59 AM

Teofimo Lopez and Steve Claggett both have quite high knockout ratios and are almost equal, anyone would also believe that they would not fight the full 12 rounds because the finish would definitely end in knockout.

Nowadays, a boxer with a 65% KO ratio is not already considered as high. IMO, a high is 90% up.

As per boxrec, Lopez has 65% Ko ratio while Claggett have %68... So both fighters are not really a KO artist, and this could go to distance.
Well, we never know what would happen but I like the chances of Lopez winning the fight again.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/469170
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/776269

Based on the odds also, this could be a mismatch.

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Teofimo Lopez vs Steve Claggett Odds
Fighter   Odds
Teofimo Lopez   -1100
Steve Claggett   +650

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/teofimo-lopez-vs-steve-claggett-prediction-odds-how-to-watch-june-29/

But at least that is number that is more than 50% ratio because with ratio of more than 65% it can be proof that the chances of winning by knockout can be greater, it just that this is only ratio from calculating the track record between the fighters and I judge it based on what I know.
It not guarantee, but it only prediction and anything can happen easily and it can't be according to expectations, we can only predict and estimate it, for the results we have to really wait for the fight to be finished.

But in the end you are right that the fight ended with full 12 round finish, there was one good opportunity in the 12th round for Lopez to beat Claggett by knockout but it all failed and Lopez victory only ended with unanimous decision.
Since the first round the fight was really fierce but Lopez was far superior with the aggressiveness of quite lot of punches, this is what gave Lopez points advantage and won to retain his championship title.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 05, 2024, 01:11:22 AM

@Natalim. Agreed! Pitbull fights very much similar to Mike Tyson when Tyson was younger. However, what Pitbull does not have in his style is Mike Tyson's footwork and head movement. Teo will certainly give him organic eye glasses from all of the punches to Pitbull's eyes heheheh. Also, on Pitbull's style he should he very careful because he will have brain damage if he does not include head movement and footwork to avoid punches of his opponents, I reckon.

He had head movement and a good chin and obviously has power. And they are totally different style with George Kambosos for me, and somewhat I think Pitbull is technical as well. He knows how to parry shots and again good head movement.

So it will be like Claggett all over again for Teo but this time, he will be facing a power puncher so he should not stick to the style that he uses against Claggett of letting him be in the corner and then Pitbull just bulldozing his way and hitting Lopez with power shots.

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@Natalim. Agreed! Pitbull fights very much similar to Mike Tyson when Tyson was younger. However, what Pitbull does not have in his style is Mike Tyson's footwork and head movement. Teo will certainly give him organic eye glasses from all of the punches to Pitbull's eyes heheheh. Also, on Pitbull's style he should he very careful because he will have brain damage if he does not include head movement and footwork to avoid punches of his opponents, I reckon.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 04, 2024, 09:23:26 AM

But for Lopez, he should just stay at his comfort zone of 140 lbs and he will be good and fight the likes of Pitbull Cruz.

He definitely has a good chance against PitBull Cruz as the latter isn't a technical fighter. Cruz will continue to be aggressive like George Kambosos Jr., so he already has an idea of how to deal with that kind of boxer, having suffered a defeat before. But as you've mentioned, he is in his comfort zone, so he'll be able to move well and use his power efficiently.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 03, 2024, 10:20:24 PM

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

@bisdak40. I speculate the reason might be because he is not being paid enough money. Does anyone remember why he said he announced his retirement? He said he deserves more money, however, the offers being given to him are not enough. We cannot blame the promoters also because who did he fight after George Kambosos.

Teo is obviously looking for the money, and based on his performance against Claggett, how can he be paid with big money if he can't knockout a boxer with 7 losses and keep on charging against him and the fight going to the distance?

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

We might witness Teo on his best if he will challenge the best. I reckon he should challenge Pitbull for the unification of the WBA and WBO championships and begin the unification of all the 4 championships in super lightweight. This will certainly collect a good purse for Teo.

Yeah, that's what they say, but still go, this is supposedly a get busy fight for you and they pick up a fighter that they assumed that Teo will knockout and so he will look good so that his hype is still there under his name. But everyone was not impressive and then he called Crawford next? LOL.

He called Bud Crawford? Hehehee this is proof that he wants to collect a very big purse. Also, agreed on your argument that how can the promoters give him a very big purse if he is difficult to hype because his performances against boxers that he can knockout he does not knockout. Teo might be a lazy boxer who does not deserve money and stardom.

On Crawford, I wish he will fight the other king of welterweight, Boots Ennis hehehehe.

Yes, he did they said that they are going to fight him against Brian Norman, a Welterweight interim champion, WBO belt holder. And so if that happens then Teo is going to move up and challenge the weakest of the champion. But still a question on him as his 140 lbs recent fight didn't produce anything.

Crawford is moving up to 154 lbs, but let's see if he can still go down to fight at 147 and fight Ennis or if he wins at 154 lbs, he might go with the rematch against Spence or fight the other champion in Fundora.

But for Lopez, he should just stay at his comfort zone of 140 lbs and he will be good and fight the likes of Pitbull Cruz.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 03, 2024, 10:08:03 PM

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Yeah, that's what they say, but still go, this is supposedly a get busy fight for you and they pick up a fighter that they assumed that Teo will knockout and so he will look good so that his hype is still there under his name. But everyone was not impressive and then he called Crawford next? LOL.

Teo might be thinking that he can take advantage of Crawford’s age and inactivity. At this point I am sure Crawford still has enough to beat him. I doubt Crawford will even be interested because Teo hasn’t done enough to create demand for this fight. There are much bigger challenges for Crawford, such as Canelo.

Yes, Crawford should pursue a fight with Canelo, as the latter is a proven PPV attraction. If Crawford were to lose, he could attribute it to the difficulty of maintaining his power after moving up in weight, similar to how Canelo made excuses after losing to Bivol.

Regarding Teo, he should continue fighting and aim for more championship bouts to build his popularity, rather than cherry-picking opponents he can easily defeat. Instead of challenging Crawford, he could challenge Spence Jr., who would also be a real though opponent and provide a huge test of his abilities.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 03, 2024, 04:47:35 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

@bisdak40. I speculate the reason might be because he is not being paid enough money. Does anyone remember why he said he announced his retirement? He said he deserves more money, however, the offers being given to him are not enough. We cannot blame the promoters also because who did he fight after George Kambosos.

Teo is obviously looking for the money, and based on his performance against Claggett, how can he be paid with big money if he can't knockout a boxer with 7 losses and keep on charging against him and the fight going to the distance?

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

We might witness Teo on his best if he will challenge the best. I reckon he should challenge Pitbull for the unification of the WBA and WBO championships and begin the unification of all the 4 championships in super lightweight. This will certainly collect a good purse for Teo.

Yeah, that's what they say, but still go, this is supposedly a get busy fight for you and they pick up a fighter that they assumed that Teo will knockout and so he will look good so that his hype is still there under his name. But everyone was not impressive and then he called Crawford next? LOL.

He called Bud Crawford? Hehehee this is proof that he wants to collect a very big purse. Also, agreed on your argument that how can the promoters give him a very big purse if he is difficult to hype because his performances against boxers that he can knockout he does not knockout. Teo might be a lazy boxer who does not deserve money and stardom.

On Crawford, I wish he will fight the other king of welterweight, Boots Ennis hehehehe.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 03, 2024, 04:47:35 PM

Yeah, that's what they say, but still go, this is supposedly a get busy fight for you and they pick up a fighter that they assumed that Teo will knockout and so he will look good so that his hype is still there under his name. But everyone was not impressive and then he called Crawford next? LOL.

Teo might be thinking that he can take advantage of Crawford’s age and inactivity. At this point I am sure Crawford still has enough to beat him. I doubt Crawford will even be interested because Teo hasn’t done enough to create demand for this fight. There are much bigger challenges for Crawford, such as Canelo.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

@bisdak40. I speculate the reason might be because he is not being paid enough money. Does anyone remember why he said he announced his retirement? He said he deserves more money, however, the offers being given to him are not enough. We cannot blame the promoters also because who did he fight after George Kambosos.

Teo is obviously looking for the money, and based on his performance against Claggett, how can he be paid with big money if he can't knockout a boxer with 7 losses and keep on charging against him and the fight going to the distance?

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

We might witness Teo on his best if he will challenge the best. I reckon he should challenge Pitbull for the unification of the WBA and WBO championships and begin the unification of all the 4 championships in super lightweight. This will certainly collect a good purse for Teo.

Yeah, that's what they say, but still go, this is supposedly a get busy fight for you and they pick up a fighter that they assumed that Teo will knockout and so he will look good so that his hype is still there under his name. But everyone was not impressive and then he called Crawford next? LOL.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 02, 2024, 11:41:49 PM

@bisdak40. I speculate the reason might be because he is not being paid enough money. Does anyone remember why he said he announced his retirement? He said he deserves more money, however, the offers being given to him are not enough. We cannot blame the promoters also because who did he fight after George Kambosos.

We might witness Teo on his best if he will challenge the best. I reckon he should challenge Pitbull for the unification of the WBA and WBO championships and begin the unification of all the 4 championships in super lightweight. This will certainly collect a good purse for Teo.

Usually that's what we see in Teo, if he faces a good opponent his best is going to come out. But against a not so well-known fighter in Claggett and with no power at all, Lopez has a lackluster performance, it could be because of the ring rust, but still though, if you are truly what you say, you can shake off that ring rust after a couple of rounds and then found your rhythm.

But not in this fight, if not for him following his corner, he dad that he needs to push Claggett and now allow him to be cornered, then who knows, maybe he will take more damage that expected. Yeah, a challenge with Pitbull will be a great found and also could be a good paycheck for him as he will be the A-side as he is the lineal champion.

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@bisdak40. I speculate the reason might be because he is not being paid enough money. Does anyone remember why he said he announced his retirement? He said he deserves more money, however, the offers being given to him are not enough. We cannot blame the promoters also because who did he fight after George Kambosos.

We might witness Teo on his best if he will challenge the best. I reckon he should challenge Pitbull for the unification of the WBA and WBO championships and begin the unification of all the 4 championships in super lightweight. This will certainly collect a good purse for Teo.

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Quote from: Jating on July 01, 2024, 06:10:39 AM

I do agree with this, he doesn't have the power that he had at 135 lbs, although he still have that speed, but the impact on his opponents are not the same anymore. He said though that he knows what he expects in this fight as Claggett is a triathlon athlete according to him, so he knows that he will be coming forward. It's good if him and Pitbull Cruz will be next, we will the same aggressive style but with power.

Might be a conclusive thinking that indeed Teo Lopez left his power on the 135 pound division because of no knockout win in his last three fights. Claggett was handpick for him to look good in the ring but he didn't disposed him impressively. I don't think that Teo Sr would risk his son's career on fighting Pitbull Cruz or Tank Davis at this stage, maybe sooner they will fight either of the two in the price is right.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 30, 2024, 08:31:55 PM

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Well done for Teo, it's a unanimous win for him. So next fight for Teo, who would it be? Any rumors after the fight?

Bob Arum mentioned that Brian Norman Jr. could be next. Even though Norman is technically a world champion he does not have much experience. On paper he has a good record and decent punching power. It could be a good test for Teo who would be moving up in weight. His poor defense and lack of power in higher weights is going to be a problem at welterweight. Norman is coming off a highlight reel knockout and won’t give up his title easily in his first defense.

Brian Norman is not well known, although he is the interim WBO champion, so doesn't make sense for Lopez to face him next, although we all know how Bob Arum moves with this kind of fights as he wanted more exposure for Lopez but with less risk. But he will not gain anything in fighting Norman Jr as he only held interim, and again, having a regular WBO champion in Terrence Crawford.

And for those who are not aware of, Norman Jr is campaigning welterweight and so it means that Teo might go up in weight as he has been calling Terrence Crawford as well after he won against Claggett. Obviously, it's the huge money that he is going to get that's why he is looking for Crawford next or Norman Jr and so if he beats him, he will be the interim and should face the regular champion in Crawford.

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Quote from: cabron on June 30, 2024, 01:45:48 PM

I'm surprised how Claggett continues to keep charging lol and Teo also kept backing away and by the looks, Claggett is smaller. It's odd already that they give Teo this kind of fighter for a tune-up but it seems to expose Teo that he isn't comfortable with the constant pressure of this kind of slugger. He showed his footwork and also he absorbed the punches though but if Claggett is bigger, the tide could change.

It just shows Teo is not ready to fight someone like Tank. He has no chance.

Right, pressure fighter like Claggett might be a big issue for Teo in the future. The likes of let's say Pitbull Cruz who always charge and then have a good chin, might be a big problem for the Takeover, but he said that he is willing to face Pitbull Cruz so that will be another interesting rematch. I will also like to agree about the ring rust, it could have affected Teo as well as he his out of the ring for sometime and his tune up fight is against a very game pressure fighter in Claggett. It's like a phone booth fight, as Teo prefer to be just in the corner and contented to counter Claggett all night but he was also caught from time to time. The only issue with Claggett is that he didn't have the power, although we can say that as well with Teo as he can't knockout anyone at 140 lbs.

Regardless, a win is a win for him.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 30, 2024, 12:07:44 AM

Quote from: Jating on June 29, 2024, 11:14:33 PM

Thanks, Claggett though is a tough costumer here, a volume puncher but he has no power. But Teo Lopez looks very uncomfortable in this fight and just wanting to fight in the corner and not in the middle, so it's weird strategy for him.

Are we going to see a upset here? Hard to score the fights as it based on Lopez few punches but with power and just countering, but Claggett is the more aggressive and throwing a lot of punches. Lopez eye is swelling, it means that he is getting in Lopez with that volume.

So let's see if Lopez can pull through in the last next of the fight. He needs to show something here, otherwise another lackluster performance and not impressively.

Claggett kept coming forward and made Teo look bad, but he did not win many rounds. Claggett looked more like a sparring partner, rather than a world champion contender. Coming in with seven losses on his record, we expected that Teo would dominate but it was yet another underwhelming performance.

I'm must surprised by the score though, I thought that Claggett did more early and could have at least score some more round. Yeah, it looks like a sparring match for Teo but Claggett keeps on coming forward to him and even though there are times that Claggett looks hurt, Teo can't finished him out.

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At 140 lbs Teo does not have the devastating knockout power that defined the early part of his career. He is also not the greatest technician so he will likely continue to struggle against these types of opponents. He needs to fight somebody like Haney or Ryan Garcia to bring out the best in him, but unfortunately those fighters’ careers are currently in limbo.

I do agree with this, he doesn't have the power that he had at 135 lbs, although he still have that speed, but the impact on his opponents are not the same anymore. He said though that he knows what he expects in this fight as Claggett is a triathlon athlete according to him, so he knows that he will be coming forward. It's good if him and Pitbull Cruz will be next, we will the same aggressive style but with power.

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