Brave Browser to launch a fully decentralized vpn - page 3.

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Quote from: Artemis3 on October 06, 2019, 07:25:08 AM

Quote from: Bountyhonter on October 06, 2019, 05:57:56 AM

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

I'd rather use Tor, which can be done even from that browser. And with Tor, you have access to resources not found anywhere else, as people running Tor nodes can host their own content, away from the clear Internet. This content is free of censorship, because while its possible to detect Tor users, its impossible to determine what content is seen or provided by each particular Tor user.

Tor was designed for this specific purpose, while VPN is not. A VPN is not a privacy tool, and never was. You are using the wrong tool for the job, it might do it more or less, but not as good (think: hammering with a wrench).

And guess what? blockchain by itself DOES NOT guarantee anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact, it preserves your traces and prevents you or anyone else from erasing/changing them later.

Imagine if your browser used a blockchain to keep track of your history. Goodbye to clear history, ad marketers rejoice!

Yes I was wondering what will happen with Brave's TOR feature if they got to implement it? I guess its either they will remove it or retain it since most users would prefer it over VPN and it could even result to public criticisms once they take out TOR altogether from Brave.

Now with their proposed decentralized crypto enhanced vpn system, I would assume they will integrate BAT token to it and make the Brave ecosystem more easily to monetize and thus will encourage and stimulate the use of BAT token within the platform. This I think is a valid and unique use case I seldom see within the crypto industry.

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If the Brave developers could pull this out it would be a huge feature that will attract even more users from the other conventional browsers like Chrome and Firefox. Opera is the only browser I know that has a VPN feature integrated, not decentralized though..

Most people are just looking for privacy. I've just seen a study that only 2% of bitcoin transactions are illegal. Not a big number in my opinion. I think more illegalities are done with cash.

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The advantage of this decentralized VPN is, we can now have double layer anonymity. this will make the brave browser the most anonymize browser of all time and this kind of browser is the most recommended for all crypto fans out there. they no longer need to worry about being hack because this two-layer anonymity will get the hacker to lose their hair trying to track your location. any trader will want to have this browser if they tired using TOR because sometimes TOR's browsing is so slow.

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The truth is that VPN can protect us from being seen by ISPs about what we actually do on the internet, but if you do something really bad most VPNs will provide your information in case of a police/court request, by that I mean your real IP address. It is also wrong to think that Brave will not share our information with third parties, especially since it is a US company. Privacy in this country is just a dead letter on paper.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on October 06, 2019, 06:20:51 AM

Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

exactly! only becuse you dont want to get tracked on the internet does not mean you are into doing shady stuff or a pervert of some kind.
i have been using brave browser for 4 months now and i love it , this whole vpn thing only makes me love it more.

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Quote from: Bountyhonter on October 06, 2019, 05:57:56 AM

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

I'd rather use Tor, which can be done even from that browser. And with Tor, you have access to resources not found anywhere else, as people running Tor nodes can host their own content, away from the clear Internet. This content is free of censorship, because while its possible to detect Tor users, its impossible to determine what content is seen or provided by each particular Tor user.

Tor was designed for this specific purpose, while VPN is not. A VPN is not a privacy tool, and never was. You are using the wrong tool for the job, it might do it more or less, but not as good (think: hammering with a wrench).

And guess what? blockchain by itself DOES NOT guarantee anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact, it preserves your traces and prevents you or anyone else from erasing/changing them later.

Imagine if your browser used a blockchain to keep track of your history. Goodbye to clear history, ad marketers rejoice!

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on October 06, 2019, 06:20:51 AM

Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

You are on point. VPNs are available to all. You can find a free VPN service with ease or use a 30 day free trial option and switch to another VPN when the period is over.
The only downside of using a free VPN is that you don't know what they do with their logs. Paid services usually "guarantee" that they won't keep any logs.
Privacy is our right and the possibility if it being used in a bad way should never be used to deny us this right. Like we have the right to free speech and sometimes someone uses this freedom to lie and defame but the right remains and it should always be there.

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Quote from: Bountyhonter on October 06, 2019, 05:57:56 AM

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

Read full article here: https://decrypt.co/9937/brave-proposes-decentralized-crypto-enhanced-vpn

That just gives criminals a bigger platform to perform their crimes. The idea is great though since giving out a decentralized VPN system would guarantee anonymity for the entire usage, the process is still a little bit blurry since the project is still in its initial phase. It's just that there are still a lot of factors to consider like what I initially said about how criminals could use it as a platform to perform their illegal activities. It's still very difficult to judge it at the moment so I'd wait for more news about it since it is quite interesting.

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I really don't know how they're going to launch a "fully" decentralized vpn though. "Fully decentralized" is a huge buzzword that certain projects mindlessly throw around for marketing sake. And knowing that Brave's company is in the United States, it wouldn't be very surprising for them to require KYC like what they did with Brave rewards.

Though I'm hugely skeptical, time will tell. The Brave/BAT project is still better than majority of the altcoin projects out there so let's just see. At the mean time, I'll enjoy using existing VPN services that doesn't require that much information to submit.

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Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

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We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

Read full article here: https://decrypt.co/9937/brave-proposes-decentralized-crypto-enhanced-vpn

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