"Brave" - New, faster browser with integrated BTC micropayments - page 2.

franky1

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Quote from: SFR10 on January 22, 2016, 09:05:04 AM

This makes me have second thought about them. The good part would be the would surely manage to introduce BTCitcoin to some of it's users and the bad part would be, not sure if it would be entirely safe to use browser base wallets,

the in browser feature should only be used for pocket money amount to pay someone a few cents as a tip..
for larger amounts it would be advisable to send it to a non bitgo address. same principles of only using coinbase or blockchain.info for daily spend and then cold store for lifetime savings

Quote from: SFR10 on January 22, 2016, 09:05:04 AM

on the faq tab they said "we will use BTC only for permissionless payment delivery to user and publisher wallets that we will create using BitGo’s APIs" meaning we can't use our own created wallets unless it's created with BitGo's API which is a big turn off for limiting users to use BitGo wallets only (for those who don't know, BitGo is restricted for some countries).

well its just a feature.. nothing will stop you copying and pasting the bitcoin address from the page itself into your own client rather then within the browser extension/widget

BellaBitBit

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This is fantastic news. Always been a fan of the Mozilla people and everyone loves faster. Most important of course is the acceptance of BTC.

gkv9

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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!

That's great news that someone from one of the most used browsers' company has joined hands with BitGo in order to build such a great browser for BTC-integrated payments available...

But the only thing being disliked here is, they will replace the ads with their own ads, I guess no-ads version would definitely do much better...

SuperCoinGuy

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Quote from: Kprawn on January 22, 2016, 01:32:12 PM

The blocking of external advertisements will automatically eliminate a huge portion of the Bitcoin faucet users. The majority of new adopters comes from people who started out

with faucets. It sound good at first, because it incorporate micro payments but the blocking of advertisements has a significant impact. Just create a plugin for micro payments

for IE and Firefox and include it as a default function and we set. Roll Eyes

Apparently it blocks the ads already on the site and substitutes them with its own ads so you see ads just not what is already on the site. This should waste more bandwidth though because it's downloading ads on top of the page. Probably not good for mobile usage.

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It seems really promising. However, the restriction to use only BitGo's wallet is not really cool. That's still good but it could be a lot better.

Kprawn

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The blocking of external advertisements will automatically eliminate a huge portion of the Bitcoin faucet users. The majority of new adopters comes from people who started out

with faucets. It sound good at first, because it incorporate micro payments but the blocking of advertisements has a significant impact. Just create a plugin for micro payments

for IE and Firefox and include it as a default function and we set. Roll Eyes

steeev

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maybe development of Bitcoin-in-browser type experiences will be more securely achieved through using pruned node setups to integrate/be able to add on browser content - approaching from the Bitcoin side toward browser, rather than this 'add' Bitcoin onto an existing browser setup... ?

pawel7777

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Quote from: DimensionZ on January 22, 2016, 10:19:27 AM

As I get it receiving and sending tips on ChangeTip don't require paying fees so will the Brave browser company be paying the fees themselves? This could be useful if you are getting a lot of micropayments every month and don't want to get destroyed with the transaction fees. Then at the end of the month you just withdraw everything to your normal wallet for almost nothing.

I may need to have a better look at ChangeTip now during the weekend it spiked my interest.

I reckon it'll be free to send payments within their own network (off-chain) but they'll probably charge some small fee on withdrawals (on top of miners fees).

That's how Changetip works, although withdrawal fees are currently waived:

Quote from: Amph on January 22, 2016, 10:38:38 AM

i hope they will integrate it in google instead, i welcome those new browser if they are fast enough, but the point is that they will always be a niche thing, because google has the monopoly

You're confusing search engines with browsers.

Amph

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i hope they will integrate it in google instead, i welcome those new browser if they are fast enough, but the point is that they will always be a niche thing, because google has the monopoly

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Interesting idea but like so many others it's solving a problem that doesn't really exist. Hardly anyone tips, lots of folks block all ads anyway and they'll devote time to free workarounds rather than cough up.

calkob

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sounds very interesting i'll watch this one, thanks for the heads up

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That's great! I their browser speed test video on the iOS comparing Safari with Brave, seems pretty quick to load the pages they've tested it on. But I have a question about how the integration of BTC wallet into the browser will benefit the users? Will it allow making Bitcoin payments? or does this somehow benefit the users and help them earn and somehow this is all correlated with the ad-blocking?

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I just knew something like this will come up that will challenge all the top search engine company this is a welcome news to the community,who knows with bitcoin growing they could pose a big challenge on some of top searching company ,have bookmarked it and see how it will go

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Shit, did I leave the stove on?

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 22, 2016, 09:31:42 AM

Quote from: DimensionZ on January 22, 2016, 09:11:45 AM

But what if I don't want to use the BitGo wallet. I currently use an online based wallet where I can enable the bitcoin payment links to be handled by my Firefox browser and forward me to the wallet page so I can authorize the transactions. I feel better having the power over my funds and what I do with them.

I would imagine it'll work similarily to changetip etc, meaning it's not meant to be a 'wallet', just a dedicated account for sending/receiving micro-transactions.

Integrating proper wallet is not feasible for the purpose of small txs, as in such case the txs would be happening on-chain and would have to include standard miners fees.

As I get it receiving and sending tips on ChangeTip don't require paying fees so will the Brave browser company be paying the fees themselves? This could be useful if you are getting a lot of micropayments every month and don't want to get destroyed with the transaction fees. Then at the end of the month you just withdraw everything to your normal wallet for almost nothing.

I may need to have a better look at ChangeTip now during the weekend it spiked my interest.

arbitrage

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This is good for bitcoin! I will watch this project.
We don't know could this be success or not but is interesting,
and its real example how everyday things can serve to bitcoin..

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I think this project has 2 main serious problem,
First, replace certain ads with their ads. It means website owner don't earn money from advertising, while they earn lots of money. For users, there's no point of this feature, while website owners angry about this.
Second, they accept bitcoin transaction, but only for BitGo user. This service is not popular & i'm not sure if this service is trustable. I wonder if anyone use this feature.

This project is sucks, but it could be great if they block all ads, don't add more ads & use bitcoin with every wallet

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I just don't think this will work. I think it's a laudable idea -- produce less intrusive ads, displayed in a standard manner that don't include bothersome AUTO-START VIDEOS (the WORST content/traffic offenders!) and don't allow intrusive pop-ups. That said, you have to get current advertisers and sites to ALLOW your browser! What if they detect and BLOCK your browser altogether, due to the fact that you block standard advertising? Then you will have a useless paperweight. Bottom line: Content is FREE on most sites precisely BECAUSE of ADs. If you start holding hostage the people who already PAY for normal ads, then you won't have very many content producers willing to use your service or allow your product. That said, current advertising, though absolutely necessary for us to have the content that we have, is overly-draining on IT resources, overly-intrusive and incredibly annoying --- especially AUTO-PLAYING VIDEO!!!!

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Quote from: DimensionZ on January 22, 2016, 09:11:45 AM

But what if I don't want to use the BitGo wallet. I currently use an online based wallet where I can enable the bitcoin payment links to be handled by my Firefox browser and forward me to the wallet page so I can authorize the transactions. I feel better having the power over my funds and what I do with them.

I would imagine it'll work similarily to changetip etc, meaning it's not meant to be a 'wallet', just a dedicated account for sending/receiving micro-transactions.

Integrating proper wallet is not feasible for the purpose of small txs, as in such case the txs would be happening on-chain and would have to include standard miners fees.

Raimonn

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I think this could be good for bitcoin community, more publicity, easier bitcoin payments for new users, but i'm worried about security, other browsers had problems with malware that changes bitcoin address. And we will need to use a bitgo wallet?

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Quote from: criptix on January 22, 2016, 09:19:25 AM

If 10% of mozilla users will use brave and 10% of brave users will use btc.
Tbh i think there will be a shitton of new ppl. O.o

What is the market share of Mozilla now? Haven't they lost the first place to Chrome browser?

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