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Topic: BREAKING NEWS : Bank of America and JP Morgan Are banning CC purchases - page 2. (Read 765 times)

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Since cryptos have high volatility,such banks have taken such a decision.In future,it would be followed by other banks too.Purchases using debit cards doesn't seem to have such issues.

No debit cards are fine, and I don't see them banning that for awhile.
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Is anyone concerned about this?

Not me, especially that i hate using credit cards because it will drive you to be indebt. In fact lot of people are now in trouble on how to settle their debt with the banks and regretting that they should not own and use these cards so better we stay away from these type of cards and focus to support Bitcoin and other digital currencies that it can be use in any establishments. Anyway JP morgan is already very famous of hating Bitcoin so there is no big deal about this news.
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Since cryptos have high volatility,such banks have taken such a decision .Otherwise they would have to suffer loss when customers buy cryptos using credit cards and don't pay back when crypto prices fall down.In future,it would be followed by other banks too.Purchases using debit cards doesn't seem to have such issues.
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Is this suppose to be bad news for cryptocurrencies?
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JP Morgan is aiming to ban CC on February 3rd and Bank of America to ban CC on February 2nd.


Looks like for right now they will only be banning CC purchases, which is not as bad as it sounds. If someone steals your CC and maxes it out buying cryptocurrency, then that could be a huge problem. Plus people can likely max it out as a way of getting "lent" money they cant afford to pay back.

As long as you can make Bank wires, and Debit card purchases this really shouldn't be a big deal.






Source: https://www.coindesk.com/report-bank-america-jp-morgan-ban-credit-crypto-purchases/


Also dont forget Bank of America has a patent for an exchange system : https://www.coindesk.com/bank-of-america-outlines-cryptocurrency-exchange-system-in-patent-award/

This is just part of the regulations that are necessary for the cryptos. Sooner or later more regulations like this will be applied, in the interest of the people of course.
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Bank of America and JP morgan don't like Bitcoin.

I dont think this news means they dont like it.
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This is totally understandable and quite wise actually. People in the USA were buying Bitcoins on credit, without actually having money. This is not really possible on large scale in Europe, but quite normal in the USA. Now, to buy Bitcoins without having the money necessary to buy them IS-NOT-GOOD. Especially if that becomes a large scale behavior.
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Bank of America and JP morgan don't like Bitcoin.
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More and more people buy cryptocurrencies with borrowed money. People who have no idea of cryptocurrencies or trading. Some of them lose mone and can't pay it back to the bank. A bank is no charity organisation, they want to earn money as well. I assume the banks have evaluated if they lose or make money with clients who invest in cryptocurrencies, and then they have acted on that result.
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Is anyone concerned about this?

No.

If Mastercard or Visa ban cryptocurrency purchases, we should be worried. But one bank doesn't mean anything to us, especially Bank of America. JP Morgan is an investment house, and while they offer debit cards for their wealthy clients to spend cash out of investment accounts their customer base is significantly smaller than Bank of America and comprised of people that will still buy Bitcoin regardless of whether they can use a JP Morgan card.
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the day these big banks will no longer dictate the rules of finance

there's a fundamental problem, though. BTC is highly dependent on fiat gateways (and altcoin markets depend on BTC). more than anything, it's used as a speculative asset (via fiat investment). so, BTC doesn't have any sort of circular or sustainable economy. in this context, banks (and governments) could probably affect the markets more than we'd like to think.

the international nature of some exchanges helps, but at a fundamental level, the banking system can be controlled if a handful of banks (or a handful of nation-states) wills it. that means that exchanges can largely be cut off from the banking system. that could have a pretty drastic effect on public perception and price discovery. it wouldn't destroy anything, but the effects would be greater than people anticipate IMO.

If banks block fiat gateways people will be forced to use BTC as currency if they wish to avoid their "investment" to die off. If possibility for withdrawal to bank account will be stopped, cryptocurrency market will be totally separate of fiat market.⭐️
I think they banned it just for now they will get back after few months. Bitcoin back up by cash and vice versa. IF they don't want to use it to buy bitcoin using CC then debit card will be good as payment. correct me if i'm wrong!
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If banks block fiat gateways people will be forced to use BTC as currency if they wish to avoid their "investment" to die off. If possibility for withdrawal to bank account will be stopped, cryptocurrency market will be totally separate of fiat market.⭐️
The banks are not banning any gate ways here,they just stopped providing service to credit card being used to purchase cryptocurrency and with the price of bitcoin soaring,people were using credit cards to purchase the coin to make profit and when the price crashed ,many people were stuck with it and so the banks have to take a decision to deal with it.
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the day these big banks will no longer dictate the rules of finance

there's a fundamental problem, though. BTC is highly dependent on fiat gateways (and altcoin markets depend on BTC). more than anything, it's used as a speculative asset (via fiat investment). so, BTC doesn't have any sort of circular or sustainable economy. in this context, banks (and governments) could probably affect the markets more than we'd like to think.

the international nature of some exchanges helps, but at a fundamental level, the banking system can be controlled if a handful of banks (or a handful of nation-states) wills it. that means that exchanges can largely be cut off from the banking system. that could have a pretty drastic effect on public perception and price discovery. it wouldn't destroy anything, but the effects would be greater than people anticipate IMO.

If banks block fiat gateways people will be forced to use BTC as currency if they wish to avoid their "investment" to die off. If possibility for withdrawal to bank account will be stopped, cryptocurrency market will be totally separate of fiat market.⭐️
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What makes it more powerful now...?
Maybe he's referring to the fact that more and more financial institutions are preventing people from buying crypto on credit, which can indeed be seen as some sort of a sign that they don't want it to grow further.

By preventing people from buying crypto on credit, they at least made an attempt to potentially halt Bitcoin's growth, but it won't have any impact at all. It requires an extra step, but credit can still be used to buy Bitcoin with.



It's nothing to do with trying to halt bitcoin's growth. It's to do with credit card chargebacks.

I expect some people bought bitcoin at the top, and when the price fell tried to do a chargeback without giving back the coins.
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They have to do this as more and more people were buying BTC and other coins by reading heads of the news with no knowlehdge what technology is behind that! They take loans in the hope that just the another day they will become rich. But this approach is not  normal and had to be stopped by the big banks.

I do agree that this had to be done and isnt a bad thing.
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They have to do this as more and more people were buying BTC and other coins by reading heads of the news with no knowlehdge what technology is behind that! They take loans in the hope that just the another day they will become rich. But this approach is not  normal and had to be stopped by the big banks.
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good those who bought last year in January or February who scraped the cards to buy and sold in December of 2017 made a fortune but tremendous are millionaires haor those who bought expensive if they lost and were indebted so is the market
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P2P exchanges coming in lmao. Like Bitfinex used to do with its customers.
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What makes it more powerful now...?
Maybe he's referring to the fact that more and more financial institutions are preventing people from buying crypto on credit, which can indeed be seen as some sort of a sign that they don't want it to grow further.

By preventing people from buying crypto on credit, they at least made an attempt to potentially halt Bitcoin's growth, but it won't have any impact at all. It requires an extra step, but credit can still be used to buy Bitcoin with.

The larger Bitcoin grows, the more financial institutions acknowledge that Bitcoin might end up taking over a large part of the market they for decades ruled with iron fist. It's time for a change, and that change is called Bitcoin.

Banks will never accept it out of free will, but eventually they have to. If you can't beat it on your own, then adapting to the situation is the only thing left to do, and that's banks adopting Bitcoin one way or another.

How does that mean the banks dont want it to grow? When people get hacked and bitcoins are bought, the banks are paying that out... you have to remember that most people are not very educated in cryptocurrency or even finance and will be over buying.




IMO BOA is a terrible banking solution anyway so I wouldnt use them.

I think bank doesn't want for crypto to grow because its a competitor. Bitcoin for examples takes away third party, which is banks. So their potential profits is already lost. That's why government thinks that crypto is do disruptive because it will make banks obsolete. This is the same argument that they have been throwing since day one they stage an attack on crypto's.

so, in fact they stop people from making low purchases, controlling how people spend their own money.
It seems to me that this is not illegal, is it?
Remember when you put your money in a bank it is no longer your money, the money belongs to the banks and they can do with it whatever they want, only when you are able to successfully withdraw the money from the bank that money belongs to you again, this is why you must not feed the system, having your money in the bank makes them more powerful, if it is a low amount keep it in your home and if it is a big amount you will need to find to store it in some other way which does not involve banks.

Exactly, and most banks will make you maintain certain amounts, so when your money fall below it, they will deduct a fee. As opposed to crypto which not only eliminated them, but you have total control, hence you are your own bank. So it only makes sense for BoA to banned cyrpto buying with their payment system.

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so, in fact they stop people from making low purchases, controlling how people spend their own money.
It seems to me that this is not illegal, is it?
Remember when you put your money in a bank it is no longer your money, the money belongs to the banks and they can do with it whatever they want, only when you are able to successfully withdraw the money from the bank that money belongs to you again, this is why you must not feed the system, having your money in the bank makes them more powerful, if it is a low amount keep it in your home and if it is a big amount you will need to find to store it in some other way which does not involve banks.
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