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legendary
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August 02, 2019, 05:07:06 PM
#43
I am certain Stormy Daniel's legal representation will do everything possible to make sure she gets the proper justice that she desires and deserves.

Pretty sad that it takes money to get justice in this country...

Isn't that "pursuit of liberty" clause or something.

No it falls under the right to have due process. A person is also supposed to have the right to an attorney, and if they cannot afford one, to have one appointed to them. Unfortunately, many public defenders have huge case loads and are underpaid.
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August 02, 2019, 04:52:39 PM
#42
I am certain Stormy Daniel's legal representation will do everything possible to make sure she gets the proper justice that she desires and deserves.

Pretty sad that it takes money to get justice in this country...

Isn't that "pursuit of liberty" clause or something.
legendary
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August 02, 2019, 04:50:59 PM
#41
...Just because the person has some fame or notoriety, doesn't mean that we need to go against the norm and throw the book at them. They are entitled to get their charges dropped or reduced just like anyone else....

I think we should hold officers accountable for their actions. If you're unlawfully detaining someone based on political bias, then you're breaking the law.

I am certain Stormy Daniel's legal representation will do everything possible to make sure she gets the proper justice that she desires and deserves.
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August 02, 2019, 04:44:09 PM
#40
...Just because the person has some fame or notoriety, doesn't mean that we need to go against the norm and throw the book at them. They are entitled to get their charges dropped or reduced just like anyone else....

I think we should hold officers accountable for their actions. If you're unlawfully detaining someone based on political bias, then you're breaking the law.
legendary
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August 02, 2019, 04:42:29 PM
#39

So, any apologies from those that wrongfully accused her? When's this thread gonna get updated?

I would be surprised if it is ever updated. After all, this news story goes against the narrative. Therefore, from their POV, it must be "fake news."
To go back on topic, from my understanding, it is routine for charges to be dropped or reduced. Especially with petty matters such as this. Just because the person has some fame or notoriety, doesn't mean that we need to go against the norm and throw the book at them. They are entitled to get their charges dropped or reduced just like anyone else.
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August 02, 2019, 04:35:44 PM
#38

So, any apologies from those that wrongfully accused her? When's this thread gonna get updated?
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August 01, 2019, 08:30:24 PM
#37
She has big bobs

EXCLUSIVE - Stormy Daniels Details Sex with Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ji8i7Wy4mo
"Comments are disabled for this video." They always do this on shit they don`t want people to talk about, freedom of speech getting removed everywhere.
legendary
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August 01, 2019, 07:35:02 PM
#36
I think she should be sentenced to death for this heinous crime. Letting another human being touch you is disgusting and there's no excuses for it. Off with her head.

Wait, that would ruin Ms. Good Head.
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copper member
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July 26, 2018, 02:25:27 AM
#34
But why did they pay her (or McDougal) off, and why all the pseudonyms and NDAs and LLCs and lying about having no knowledge of this or that? It seems they (Cohen/Trump) thought it's a bigger deal than what you're saying.
Trump is married and has a young child (he also has a brand whose value is closely associated with his reputation). The payment to Stormy was to protect the Marriage (and others mentioned above), and according to Trump/Cohen would have been paid regardless of if Trump was running for President.

The NDA is the point of the payment, and the pseudonyms create distance between the agreement and Trump.

According to Trump, these types of agreements are common among the very wealthy, and are used to prevent a wealthy person's family from hearing about bogus allegations. There was a short time between when the affair/payment was disclosed/leaked by Avenatti (the creepy porn lawyer), and when the details of the affair and NDA become credible. I suspect that no credible claim would have ever reached Trump's family if it were not for the fact that Trump is president and Avenatti had not clearly acted in a way that is clearly not in his client's best interest.
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July 24, 2018, 07:45:20 AM
#33
Why spend millions when you can spend $130k and make a potential scandal go away?
A scandal? I don't think it was a secret that Trump was/is a womanizer, and CNN was publishing tapes that were more than a decade old of Trump calling into Howard Sterns radio show. What was being published was much worse politically than Trump having an extramarital affair with a (ugly) porn star. 

Further, there were multiple (likely politically motivated) allegations of non-consensual sexual activity on the part of Trump around that time, and a single additional consensual relationship would likely have swayed few, if any voters one way or another. 

Well, I don't really care either way about someone's consensual shtupping so I would agree with you on that part.

But why did they pay her (or McDougal) off, and why all the pseudonyms and NDAs and LLCs and lying about having no knowledge of this or that? It seems they (Cohen/Trump) thought it's a bigger deal than what you're saying.
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July 24, 2018, 02:13:02 AM
#32
Why spend millions when you can spend $130k and make a potential scandal go away?
A scandal? I don't think it was a secret that Trump was/is a womanizer, and CNN was publishing tapes that were more than a decade old of Trump calling into Howard Sterns radio show. What was being published was much worse politically than Trump having an extramarital affair with a (ugly) porn star. 

Further, there were multiple (likely politically motivated) allegations of non-consensual sexual activity on the part of Trump around that time, and a single additional consensual relationship would likely have swayed few, if any voters one way or another. 
legendary
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July 21, 2018, 11:02:28 AM
#31
So now we’re going after people for what??— breaking the campaign individual max contributions? You and me both know that’s a bullshit charge by an out of control special counsel.

This reminds me of the Clinton special counsel days.....

If Cohen wanted to influence the election he couldve spent millions on ProTrump super pacs and this wouldn’t have been an issue

Why spend millions when you can spend $130k and make a potential scandal go away? This would make sense for any politician and it's not a huge stretch to question this payoff as a potential campaign contribution. The answer might be "no" but the question needs to be answered.

Cohen is being investigated by USAO-SDNY, i.e. Trump's DOJ, not the special counsel, and the investigation includes other potential charges although the porn star gets most publicity. Now it looks like there are recordings of Trump discussing another payoff.
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July 21, 2018, 10:28:43 AM
#30
Regular performers are allowed to touch family members.

Ohio is weird.
It's a Trump law, just in case his daughter ever ends up working in an Ohio strip club.
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July 21, 2018, 09:40:56 AM
#29
Haha, so much ridiculousness to this story! So, first off, these undercover cops are paid to get porn starts to smack them in the face with their naked breasts? To answer your question, of course she shouldn't have gotten any special treatment for what she's said about Trump. The laws should be the same for everybody.

The actual law referred to in your article is http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2907.40.

This part leaves me with so many questions:
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(C)(2) No employee who regularly appears nude or seminude on the premises of a sexually oriented business, while on the premises of that sexually oriented business and while nude or seminude, shall knowingly touch a patron who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or another employee who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or the clothing of a patron who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or another employee who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or allow a patron who is not a member of the employee's immediate family or another employee who is not a member of the employee's immediate family to touch the employee or the clothing of the employee.

So, according to previous replies here, she got of because she didn't appear regularly at the strip club. What the heck? So, if you just occasionally work at a strip club, you can do whatever you want? Great law-writing right there. This law requires so many clarifications. It's a bit funny that if the employee was not nude or seminude, apparently it would also be completely legal to touch a patron. Or would seminude count as anybody not in a burqa? People's hands and faces are usually "nude" after all. I really wonder why they mention immediate family members so often. Who were they imagining when they wrote this law. It's okay for naked strippers to touch their immediate family members at work. Of course, I can see spouses, but who else? Parents? Siblings? Ohio, I think you're pretty strange.
legendary
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July 21, 2018, 01:34:31 AM
#28
But anyway, on this whole Stormy Daniels thing -- I don't get why she is relevant anyway. She may or may not have had sex with the President 15 years or so ago? When he wasen't even the President.

I don't get the media and how they determine what is relevant to cover.

The claim is that if Cohen paid her on "Trumps behalf" then it may be considered an in-kind illegal campaign contribution with intent to influence the election.

That is why the timeline went like this:

Trump/Cohen denies everything.
Cohen admits to the payments and claims they were legal payments and that Trump and the campaign knew nothing about the payments.
Trump/Giuliani admit they knew about the payments and that Trump payed Cohen back.

The timing of the raid on Cohen and the back peddling is obvious.

Stormy's Lawyer claims that Trump will not make it to 2020 as a result of what he knows.

So the left media picked up on it and is running balls to the walls with it and the right is ignoring it.

So now we’re going after people for what??— breaking the campaign individual max contributions? You and me both know that’s a bullshit charge by an out of control special counsel.

This reminds me of the Clinton special counsel days.....

If Cohen wanted to influence the election he couldve spent millions on ProTrump super pacs and this wouldn’t have been an issue
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July 19, 2018, 05:49:06 PM
#27
She looks ugly. And fake.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
July 19, 2018, 05:39:26 PM
#26
Also it looks like AT&T had $600k worth of sex with Stormy... or perhaps with Donald Trump... this pay-to-play shit is confusing.

Hmmm



Might be worth 600k to AT&T?

Dunno, seems a bit expensive  Cheesy

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/stormy-daniels-net-worth/
legendary
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July 17, 2018, 10:15:39 PM
#25
Also it looks like AT&T had $600k worth of sex with Stormy... or perhaps with Donald Trump... this pay-to-play shit is confusing.
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
July 17, 2018, 08:59:42 PM
#24
But anyway, on this whole Stormy Daniels thing -- I don't get why she is relevant anyway. She may or may not have had sex with the President 15 years or so ago? When he wasen't even the President.

I don't get the media and how they determine what is relevant to cover.

The claim is that if Cohen paid her on "Trumps behalf" then it may be considered an in-kind illegal campaign contribution with intent to influence the election.

That is why the timeline went like this:

Trump/Cohen denies everything.
Cohen admits to the payments and claims they were legal payments and that Trump and the campaign knew nothing about the payments.
Trump/Giuliani admit they knew about the payments and that Trump payed Cohen back.

The timing of the raid on Cohen and the back peddling is obvious.

Stormy's Lawyer claims that Trump will not make it to 2020 as a result of what he knows.

So the left media picked up on it and is running balls to the walls with it and the right is ignoring it.
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