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legendary
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July 14, 2024, 12:18:03 AM
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Putin is cunning, he does all this for a reason

Which does not mean he has always a good reason or that he is doing anything smart. Sometimes stupid is simply stupid, not a psy-op.

But Putin is right this time. Even Biden admits it...

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1811518783636537655


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legendary
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Putin is cunning, he does all this for a reason

Which does not mean he has always a good reason or that he is doing anything smart. Sometimes stupid is simply stupid, not a psy-op.
legendary
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Putin is cunning, he does all this for a reason

But it is the US that is aggressive.     Cool
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legendary
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But that is what competition is all about.

You can make war and destroy. Competition. Or you can build a better money system for competition that builds thing up rather than destroys.

The US/Nato money systems have a back door built in where they create new money. Done right, it works. And done like it is being done, the banking system creates double... once for the 'citizens', and a second time for themselves... all at the same time. Deflation built in.

Anything negative about BRICS as a method to rule the world.has been in action with the USD for more than 100 years. That's why the nations want to get out of it. And that is why it is so successful... not because it is good.

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The only country that could even think of competing with the US dollar would be China - and I am saying competing just to follow this through, because no country would like to have money that is controlled by the CCP. Even all the "BRICS" working together are simply not trustable enough for the capital markets, but again following just for the shake of it....

China is in the middle of a ridiculously large bank crisis. We are talking thousands (I am not exaggerating) of banks that lent to local construction companies have to write 40% of bad debt. Not a coin you'd use.

The USD Federal Reserve Bank is about to fall. BRICS will be important then. If they have a solid base by then, the US may want to join. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5502432

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legendary
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Do you think the organization will do something useful?

Nope, it won't. The goal of BRICS is not to give people any freedom and you can bet on this because China has its hands in it. The goal is to weaken the USD, just like Roger Ver was trying to weaken BTC by launching BCH and Craig Wright tried to do the same with BSV.

Unfortunately for Russia and its allies, the rest of the world will not joint hem and drop USD. Imagine Europe, which along the US is helping Ukraine, joinins Russian monetary system to weaken the US.

But that is what competition is all about.

You can make war and destroy. Competition. Or you can build a better money system for competition that builds thing up rather than destroys.

The US/Nato money systems have a back door built in where they create new money. Done right, it works. And done like it is being done, the banking system creates double... once for the 'citizens', and a second time for themselves... all at the same time. Deflation built in.

Anything negative about BRICS as a method to rule the world.has been in action with the USD for more than 100 years. That's why the nations want to get out of it. And that is why it is so successful... not because it is good.

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The only country that could even think of competing with the US dollar would be China - and I am saying competing just to follow this through, because no country would like to have money that is controlled by the CCP. Even all the "BRICS" working together are simply not trustable enough for the capital markets, but again following just for the shake of it....

China is in the middle of a ridiculously large bank crisis. We are talking thousands (I am not exaggerating) of banks that lent to local construction companies have to write 40% of bad debt. Not a coin you'd use.
legendary
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Do you think the organization will do something useful?

Nope, it won't. The goal of BRICS is not to give people any freedom and you can bet on this because China has its hands in it. The goal is to weaken the USD, just like Roger Ver was trying to weaken BTC by launching BCH and Craig Wright tried to do the same with BSV.

Unfortunately for Russia and its allies, the rest of the world will not joint hem and drop USD. Imagine Europe, which along the US is helping Ukraine, joinins Russian monetary system to weaken the US.

But that is what competition is all about.

You can make war and destroy. Competition. Or you can build a better money system for competition that builds thing up rather than destroys.

The US/Nato money systems have a back door built in where they create new money. Done right, it works. And done like it is being done, the banking system creates double... once for the 'citizens', and a second time for themselves... all at the same time. Deflation built in.

Anything negative about BRICS as a method to rule the world.has been in action with the USD for more than 100 years. That's why the nations want to get out of it. And that is why it is so successful... not because it is good.

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legendary
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Do you think the organization will do something useful?

Nope, it won't. The goal of BRICS is not to give people any freedom and you can bet on this because China has its hands in it. The goal is to weaken the USD, just like Roger Ver was trying to weaken BTC by launching BCH and Craig Wright tried to do the same with BSV.

Unfortunately for Russia and its allies, the rest of the world will not joint hem and drop USD. Imagine Europe, which along the US is helping Ukraine, joinins Russian monetary system to weaken the US.
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^^^ World trade without the USD is here. But the US can join as long as it accepts simple membership like any other country or business.

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But would not that be counter productive to the whole idea the BRICS is trying to do with their alliance, though? It is about the replacement of the USD as global medium of exchange in favor of they new currency.
By the way, the United States has such a bad relations with the main members of BRICS, that a membership would be rejected by Russia and China.
Still, I am curious though, assuming USA had a pass to join , what would be the conditions put onto the table for the biggest economy on the planet to get in the alliance?

It sounds almost sub-real if you think a bit about it.
legendary
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^^^ World trade without the USD is here. But the US can join as long as it accepts simple membership like any other country or business.

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Do you think the organization will do something useful?
legendary
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Trump out-Bidenning Biden,

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He won't, but he can promise it as usual. The low income Latinos and Blacks, with due respect, are not there for being top of their class in general.

Federal income tax cancellation works... math and logic.

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legendary
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^^^ You're just upset because Trump's cancelling of Federal Income Tax doesn't reach to your country.

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I tend to distrust politicians that promise less tax but do not tell you what will they cut on. The usual answer is "efficiencies in government"... does it ring a bell?

But look, the low income black and latinos are happy with it... who am I to disagree?

Trump out-Bidenning Biden,

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He won't, but he can promise it as usual. The low income Latinos and Blacks, with due respect, are not there for being top of their class in general.
legendary
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^^^ You're just upset because Trump's cancelling of Federal Income Tax doesn't reach to your country.

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I tend to distrust politicians that promise less tax but do not tell you what will they cut on. The usual answer is "efficiencies in government"... does it ring a bell?

But look, the low income black and latinos are happy with it... who am I to disagree?

Trump out-Bidenning Biden,

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legendary
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^^^ You're just upset because Trump's cancelling of Federal Income Tax doesn't reach to your country.

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I tend to distrust politicians that promise less tax but do not tell you what will they cut on. The usual answer is "efficiencies in government"... does it ring a bell?

But look, the low income black and latinos are happy with it... who am I to disagree?
legendary
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^^^ You're just upset because Trump's cancelling of Federal Income Tax doesn't reach to your country.

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legendary
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What some of Trump voters do not seem to understand - I am talking mostly about low income black & latino communities - is the effects of what Trump has in mind in their economies. I guess not knowing about economy is one of the reasons they are low income in the first place, but:

- devaluation causes strong spikes of inflation. If they think they are bad under Biden, just wait for true inflation.
- Low income people are the ones mostly buying cheap Chinese goods. Tariffs on these will immediately hit their economies.

And make no mistake, due to tariffs loopholes that Trump says is going to close, many of those cheap Chinese products are de-facto at 0% tariff today.

They simply do not understand what is going to happen.
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To me, it would not much sense to go for a devaluation of the USD, specially because of how do many countries see that currency as a store of value (at least in the mid term, it is not one in the long term). Though, during these recent debates and appearances Trump has had in public, he has shown his ignorance on how tariffs are supposed to work and how they are not going to benefit the United States people by taking money from China, but rather force businesses in USA to pay more to the State for the same importation goods they all need from abroad.
If tariffs are that difficult to understand for Trump, then I would not be surprised in the case he got convinced that devaluating their own currency would be good. Someone could put the case in front of Trump that devaluation would increase the competitivity of the USA to export more and more companies would be encouraged to keep their facilities in the continent, rather than moving to China. However, the secondary and unexpected effects are to be taken seriously.
legendary
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When you stretch the 'rubber band' all out of shape like Biden has been doing, everybody will like it when it snaps back to normal.

The questions are:
1. Can Trump snap it back before it breaks;
2. Can Trump snap it back softly enough that it doesn't destroy itself in the process.

China won't entirely like what Trump is doing even though they agreed to it. The thing that might turn them against Trump and the 'system' is the ME (Israel) wars. If (when) that happens, it will take the whole fan down.

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But do not get this wrong - Trump does want the dollar to collapse, he thinks that it is not advantageous to have a strong coin -  so all this talk about "printing too much" is just plain disinformation as his own plans are even worse in that sense.

Does he? I have followed Trump and American politics for a while and I was not nearly aware Trump had some ideas in mind about economics, specially applied to his own currency, the USD. Do you say Trump does not want the United States dollar to continue to thrive because his alledge alliance and contact with the Kremlin, or is it because other reason?
I would like to know where you got that information from, honestly. Most people are talking about the incoming public debate Trump is going to have against Joe Biden tomorrow and at this point, it would seems nobody is paying attention whether the USA dollar is losing steam as a reserve currency in the international markets or not, to me it does not look like it is. At least here in my country, handling dollars has become so common and it is part of the daily routine.

His advisor on this matter is a well know economist that vouches for the devaluation of the dollar. If you see what happeneds in Argentina, even if it is not  the best example because is a shitcoin, the inflation spikes when you devalue the coin and I am not sure the US will accept this, the people I mean, because they do not feel their are in such a dire situation as Argentinians.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/15/devaluing-dollar-trump-trade-war-00152009

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Advisers close to the former president — particularly his former trade chief Robert Lighthizer — are considering policies that would weaken the dollar relative to other currencies, which could juice U.S. exports but also fuel inflation.

So silly that they argue "too much printing".

I don't know about you, but in my personal opinion, devaluating one's own national currency in order to boost exportation of goods to other countries sounds quite reckless and only responding to the needs of manufacturing corporations to continue in profit (those which are still in the USA, I mean. We all know much of what is consumed in USA comes from China, anyways).

That plan would imply there could be a boost in the exportation, that is true, but it would be painful for the average person to pay higher prices for everything with is imported into the country.
If that guys wanted to increase exportation, then he should re-check and enhance the trading treaties the USA has with it's commercial partners, instead of passing the burden upon the average person.

devaluating a coin has happened a number of times even in advanced economies and it makes sense under certain conditions - mostly when the exchange rate is simply not real. devaluing is the recognition that a country's economy is living in a fantasy. It did happen with the British Pound decades ago and with some other currencies around the world.

https://theeconreview.com/2018/10/16/how-soros-broke-the-british-pound/

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Following an interview with the then President of the Bundesbank, Helmut Schlesinger, it was revealed that the pound sterling was one of those currencies that could “come under pressure” and be devalued since it was trading at levels that were far away from its inherent value. This caused a huge dent in market sentiments and probed major speculation about the pound and the possibility of it being devalued.

Meanwhile in New York City, Soros and his Quantum Fund had been building a $1.5 billion short position anticipating that an overvalued pound would be compelled by the market to drop down to its equilibrium price devoid of any artificial intervention. A short position, in essence, allows an investor to garner profits when the price of a commodity or security goes down rather than up.


The question is how would that make sense for a global currency such as the US. I think donald grump has a very narrow vision of what makes the US successful and ignores global effects - so devaluation he may try yes.
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