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sr. member
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January 14, 2015, 09:43:13 PM
#21
Well this certainly wouldn't be the first time that we have asked for its return. However this might be the first thread that has a poll (unsure).
Despite of the obvious request by the community, the staff isn't doing anything about it. The question is why?


Note: I've obviously voted yes.

Actually, I created poll relating to this some months back. Like you, I was/remain mystified over the admins' apathy on the subject. Here's what BadBear had to say about it.




Restricting accounts will not work. Do you honestly think the scams are just some random newbie that shows up, then leaves? There are rings of scammers operating here. It's the same on any forum revolving around finance, this isn't a phenomenon located just here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the majority of them are by the same two or three groups. If we restrict newbies from posting, then we'll just see proxy posts, people paying someone else to post it for them. Then every announcement thread will be prefaced with  *Not my coin, just posting this thread*. Or bought accounts, which will just be considered the cost of doing business by scammers. No matter what restrictions we put on accounts, they'll get around it.



I guess in his mind (perhaps theymos as well), rules that can't be enforced 100% should not be enacted at all. We should be thankful BadBear is not President of the Galaxy. Otherwise, laws against murder, kidnapping and theft would probably all be repealed as well since people still commit those crimes despite the presence of such laws.
legendary
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Touchdown
January 14, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
#20
Another vote FOR newbie jail.  Terrible at the moment -- the price crash seems to have brought fresh waves of new accounts, no surprise there.

The ignore-all-newbies button/option is an interesting one, but the newbie jail was good because the genuine newbie questions were, for the most part, answered.  I actually found it very useful.
legendary
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January 14, 2015, 04:07:57 PM
#19
I really want newbie jail to come back. Newbie jail can come back and newbies can have a post limit per section per day for everything that's not inside of the jail.

  • A button that ignores all the newbies in the forum and automatically unignores them when they go past the Newbie status


This^. If no newbie jail, I'd like this please.
legendary
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January 14, 2015, 03:50:54 PM
#18
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
Every day at least 5-6 newbie  ask for a loan in the lending section , I don't tell  : NO   ; but at least provide a valid collateral and put it  in a trusted escrow.

This.
Today someone asked for a 25 BTC loan. Offered "his" car as collateral. I asked for the car's papers and a photo ID to prove it. Never got a reply.

That's insane Grin. I think the forum should forbid to a newbie to start a thread ("at least" until he will become a Jr. member ). 
I would agree with this, especially in some of the marketplace threads like lending and currency exchange where the newbie scammers like to create threads the most.

I would say they should be able to create threads in places like Bitcoin discussion, meta, politics, economics, and altcoin section (except marketplace) as they may want to start/have a controversial discussion they might not want associated with their identity.




Yes of course , in the forum section where he wants to learn about bitcoin ... not open a thread  in the marketplace section ( or other) to try scam someone.

I agree with this.

The newbie jail should be back.There is too much scams and scam attempts,fud,trolling...going on this forum.The scammers would then need to put a lot more effort to scam and probably half of them would give up before they get out of newbie jail.In theory that should work,we will see.

Or they will start to buy accounts which are not in newbie jail.
legendary
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#Free market
January 14, 2015, 02:42:25 PM
#17
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
Every day at least 5-6 newbie  ask for a loan in the lending section , I don't tell  : NO   ; but at least provide a valid collateral and put it  in a trusted escrow.

This.
Today someone asked for a 25 BTC loan. Offered "his" car as collateral. I asked for the car's papers and a photo ID to prove it. Never got a reply.

That's insane Grin. I think the forum should forbid to a newbie to start a thread ("at least" until he will become a Jr. member ). 
I would agree with this, especially in some of the marketplace threads like lending and currency exchange where the newbie scammers like to create threads the most.

I would say they should be able to create threads in places like Bitcoin discussion, meta, politics, economics, and altcoin section (except marketplace) as they may want to start/have a controversial discussion they might not want associated with their identity.




Yes of course , in the forum section where he wants to learn about bitcoin ... not open a thread  in the marketplace section ( or other) to try scam someone.
copper member
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January 14, 2015, 02:38:51 PM
#16
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
Every day at least 5-6 newbie  ask for a loan in the lending section , I don't tell  : NO   ; but at least provide a valid collateral and put it  in a trusted escrow.

This.
Today someone asked for a 25 BTC loan. Offered "his" car as collateral. I asked for the car's papers and a photo ID to prove it. Never got a reply.

That's insane Grin. I think the forum should forbid to a newbie to start a thread ("at least" until he will become a Jr. member ). 
I would agree with this, especially in some of the marketplace threads like lending and currency exchange where the newbie scammers like to create threads the most.

I would say they should be able to create threads in places like Bitcoin discussion, meta, politics, economics, and altcoin section (except marketplace) as they may want to start/have a controversial discussion they might not want associated with their identity.

hero member
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Space Lord
January 14, 2015, 02:26:58 PM
#15
I voted no, because I think it is a bad idea to cage genuine newbies with potential scammers in a beginners subforum. The rest of the forum will be cleaner, less trolls but newbies will be scammed more easily. I am sick of fud and troll posts too, newbie jail is not a good solution.

Not at all.
Why do you think lending/trading/etc. threads would even be allowed in the newbie section?
hero member
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January 14, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
#14
I voted no, because I think it is a bad idea to cage genuine newbies with potential scammers in a beginners subforum. The rest of the forum will be cleaner, less trolls but newbies will be scammed more easily. I am sick of fud and troll posts too, newbie jail is not a good solution.
legendary
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#Free market
January 14, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
#13
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
Every day at least 5-6 newbie  ask for a loan in the lending section , I don't tell  : NO   ; but at least provide a valid collateral and put it  in a trusted escrow.

This.
Today someone asked for a 25 BTC loan. Offered "his" car as collateral. I asked for the car's papers and a photo ID to prove it. Never got a reply.

That's insane Grin. I think the forum should forbid to a newbie to start a thread ("at least" until he will become a Jr. member ). 
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Space Lord
January 14, 2015, 02:08:11 PM
#12
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
Every day at least 5-6 newbie  ask for a loan in the lending section , I don't tell  : NO   ; but at least provide a valid collateral and put it  in a trusted escrow.

This.
Today someone asked for a 25 BTC loan. Offered "his" car as collateral. I asked for the car's papers and a photo ID to prove it. Never got a reply.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hultis-411787
legendary
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#Free market
January 14, 2015, 02:01:57 PM
#11
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
Every day at least 5-6 newbie  ask for a loan in the lending section , I don't tell  : NO   ; but at least provide a valid collateral and put it  in a trusted escrow.

Also those new ponzi schemes , I don't think the forum *should* prevent this type of thread ( a negative feedback is not the right way to stop them).
legendary
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January 14, 2015, 01:57:57 PM
#10
Voted and +1 your idea. I liked it because u wanted this forum working at its best. Today i checked the lending section i saw many newbi looking for a loan of 20, 50 and more amount of btc with red trust.
hero member
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The All-in-One Cryptocurrency Exchange
January 14, 2015, 01:22:03 PM
#9
I do not support that type of jail but some strict limitations on numbers of posts,.. seems a prerequisite for users of this forum.
legendary
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Terminated.
January 14, 2015, 01:00:26 PM
#8
Well this certainly wouldn't be the first time that we have asked for its return. However this might be the first thread that has a poll (unsure).
Despite of the obvious request by the community, the staff isn't doing anything about it. The question is why?


Note: I've obviously voted yes.
hero member
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January 14, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
#7
Please implement it again!
The amount of rubbish posts or users creating fake accounts is just too damn high...
sr. member
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January 14, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
#6
I'd vote for this as it seems like a good idea to stop them from the spam.
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hee-ho.
January 14, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
#5
I don't know about this newbie jail because I've never experienced it. but if this prevents lending threads or trolling by one day old users then my answer is "yes".

maybe modify it a bit/add some exceptions so that users that registered as a representative of their site can post right away.
legendary
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#Free market
January 14, 2015, 09:47:50 AM
#4
I think the same , so I've voted for yes. At least take part  in the "forum activity" and after start to open your thread.  It  prevents the multiple loans request , ponzi , and scam.
hero member
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January 14, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
#3
I don't think it deterred them from joining. They still had to join then realize they are in jail for X amount of time. I guess it could deter them from staying and working their way out of jail. But then again, anyone who wouldn't be willing to put in the effort would probably be a low quality user anyway, IMO.
copper member
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January 14, 2015, 08:26:30 AM
#2
I think the newbie jail as previously implemented detered users from joining our community.

I would support some kind of modified newbie jail that maybe had certain restrictions in posting and/or creating threads in certain sections.
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