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The guard is just trying to make extra bucks for himself, as, due to the inflation rate, the salary he is receiving is not enough to satisfy his needs. I hope the issue doesn't take him to prison, though. If I were in such a situation and was fully aware that such action could implicate me and perhaps tarnish my reputation, I would just save my ass by letting the opportunity slide, or I could give someone else the information and ask them to place the bet on the agreement that we both would share the profit that comes after. Now that he has been arrested, I believe he will also lose his job after he has been released from police custody. 
But still, it is against the rules as the guard already has the knowledge or already knows when the election date is, and I think he already knows that participating in a bet or gambling related to the election date is forbidden, but he still does so. Yeah, maybe he is in need of extra income, but still, rules are rules, and it is his fault that he let himself be caught. If I were in his situation, I would just make someone do the betting or gambling for me. I would simply provide the information. Yes, it is still a form of cheating, but at least I didn't get caught. Unless the authorities make a thorough investigation, then that would be a problem. Anyway, for me, the punishment should be served as he already knows the rules and regulations, so when he breaks the rules, expect a consequence. That is, in life, you should not get ahead of yourself.
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The guard is just trying to make extra bucks for himself, as, due to the inflation rate, the salary he is receiving is not enough to satisfy his needs. I hope the issue doesn't take him to prison, though. If I were in such a situation and was fully aware that such action could implicate me and perhaps tarnish my reputation, I would just save my ass by letting the opportunity slide, or I could give someone else the information and ask them to place the bet on the agreement that we both would share the profit that comes after. Now that he has been arrested, I believe he will also lose his job after he has been released from police custody. 
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Since the country allows betting of any kind of, why will they arrest him. They caused it like that because assuming there was no bet on when the election day will be, he might not tell anyone and keep it a secret. Since money is involved that was ahy he had to bet on the right date because he is an I spider and knows about the date. It is cheating and that is why he was arrested, he should have given someone else the date to bet for him.
They have all the right to arrest him. Maybe there is something you really missed. It’s normal to gamble in the country, but his gambling activity becomes illegal because the person was acting on inside information, which is a criminal offense. Since he heard about the date of the election, he wasn’t supposed to place a bet or even reveal information like this to anyone since it hasn’t been made public yet. He was just trying to take advantage and make more money, which is really wrong, if you are in some position, there are things that you are not supposed to do. If he really wants to gamble, he should gamble on other sports or activities, but not on election dates that haven’t been revealed yet.
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In another development, Sunak aide Craig Williams is also under investigation by the Gambling Commission for placing a 100 pound ($128) bet on a July election before the date had been announced.

I don't know how much the other guy bet but this one is more concerning from the betting website point of view, he basically placed 100 bets on a 5:1 a few days before the announcement and it got flagged as suspicious, there should be a limit how "suspicious" works here. I don't think they will care about the bets that were placed at lower odds and with more money and lost but what was that out of the ordinary on a 5:1 bet, I would have also flagged it if it were a 250:1 and maybe this was the only guy that bet more than £1 but this is just nuts.
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.

In another development, Sunak aide Craig Williams is also under investigation by the Gambling Commission for placing a 100 pound ($128) bet on a July election before the date had been announced.

What are your thoughts?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/rishi-sunaks-bodyguards-arrested-alleged-bets-uk-election-111256193
Well shit happens yet there would really be no secrets that would really be kept and wouldnt be known specially if its really that a confidential information. You would really expect that there would really be that specific rules and regulations been set. If that bodyguard kn0ws it ahead then it would be ideal that he had had made out some bets if its that been offered or shown or listed on betting sites and make money
most out of it without putting up his life at risks on getting imprisoned or would be charged up on violating laws on which we know that they are really that strict when it comes to this.

On the moment that you would really be leaking up something without their permission or get caught then you do know the consequences. It did really just turned out that he had been caught
on what he had done and of course there would really be consequences to that.
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I have never heard about such type of betting but if the prime minister's bodygaurd was arrested for election date bet because he had knowledge about the date then such act can't be ignored. I'm very happy to know that he was arrested and I believe government of UK should take proper action against him.
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It's kind of a wired way of betting to me. I wonder what else they place bet on that sounds very wired. Well, in common sense if the body was so close to the prime Minister, he probably must have gotten a tip from someone on the inside about the election date. That would be the only way he had gotten it and made a bet which is cheating obviously. But it might be a mistake though as no one can actually tell if that's what happened. He might just be blamed falsely just because he works for the prime Minister. He might just be like every other gambling who would have won the bet on similar occasions but the condition of his work just gave him another issue to fight over.

But couldn't he have bet using another identity? I mean, he should ask his wife or someone close to him that he trusts to put the bet in his place so that his name is not involved in the matter. This possibility confirms the stupidity of his doing so, no matter how tempting the amount he might have won.

At the same time, this makes me wonder whether the bodyguard is authorized to see any sensitive state information. Is there a law that prevents people who hold duties in the British administration from placing bets in general? If the accusation is proven, the bodyguard will be accused of using sensitive data obtained as part of his assigned work, and placing a bet is evidence of that and not an accusation in itself.
Make sense, he could've done this. Maybe he is not aware that it is illegal? Lol. Impossible. This is the best example of an insider where for sure he really has the advantage of knowing the date.
I believe during signing up on some betting platform, there must be terms of condition that any connected about some politician must not be allowed to sign up.

Yeah, but as gamblers, I don't think they are willing to hide their idea + he might think that no one is going to find it out, or he has a gambling problem and so his decision is clouded and all he want is to have that advantage and win and don't think of the consequences.

But now it's out, and he has affected others as well, like his families and then the Prime Minister. But it's done now, he can't go back and claim that he didn't and for sure he will have to go to jail for this. They wouldn't file or pursue him if they didn't have a case against him.
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For problems like this, it is actually something that is prohibited by law, not because he works for the government, but because there are actions that are very detrimental to the government by risking one of the things that is kept secret.
This is actually the first time I have heard of violation like this, but I think every rule and law in each country is different, but I think it is mistake because have used it for personal gain.
If I were him then I wouldn't do all that because with only small amount of money I would have to face the law and risk my job or my own reputation.

In the end he gets into really complicated problem and there may be criminal threats or fines to be paid, this is crazy, someone who works in the government makes mistakes related to gambling.
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But couldn't he have bet using another identity? I mean, he should ask his wife or someone close to him that he trusts to put the bet in his place so that his name is not involved in the matter. This possibility confirms the stupidity of his doing so, no matter how tempting the amount he might have won.

At the same time, this makes me wonder whether the bodyguard is authorized to see any sensitive state information. Is there a law that prevents people who hold duties in the British administration from placing bets in general? If the accusation is proven, the bodyguard will be accused of using sensitive data obtained as part of his assigned work, and placing a bet is evidence of that and not an accusation in itself.

That way, he would've dragging his family members all into trouble. They would still face same consequences as it will still be obvious that he gave his wife or family the right omes to bet on. So I guess there's no two way around it. My question is how they got to know about his bet. Did he show it to them or his data was leaked by the betting company or they monitor his every move since he works for the prime Minister. If this is true and he knew of such matters that could have resulted,  he wouldn't have made such bets. I really don't see anything wrong in his betting. He just like every other gambler made a bet but his position gave him a condition.
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It's kind of a wired way of betting to me. I wonder what else they place bet on that sounds very wired. Well, in common sense if the body was so close to the prime Minister, he probably must have gotten a tip from someone on the inside about the election date. That would be the only way he had gotten it and made a bet which is cheating obviously. But it might be a mistake though as no one can actually tell if that's what happened. He might just be blamed falsely just because he works for the prime Minister. He might just be like every other gambling who would have won the bet on similar occasions but the condition of his work just gave him another issue to fight over.

But couldn't he have bet using another identity? I mean, he should ask his wife or someone close to him that he trusts to put the bet in his place so that his name is not involved in the matter. This possibility confirms the stupidity of his doing so, no matter how tempting the amount he might have won.

At the same time, this makes me wonder whether the bodyguard is authorized to see any sensitive state information. Is there a law that prevents people who hold duties in the British administration from placing bets in general? If the accusation is proven, the bodyguard will be accused of using sensitive data obtained as part of his assigned work, and placing a bet is evidence of that and not an accusation in itself.
Make sense, he could've done this. Maybe he is not aware that it is illegal? Lol. Impossible. This is the best example of an insider where for sure he really has the advantage of knowing the date.
I believe during signing up on some betting platform, there must be terms of condition that any connected about some politician must not be allowed to sign up.
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.

In another development, Sunak aide Craig Williams is also under investigation by the Gambling Commission for placing a 100 pound ($128) bet on a July election before the date had been announced.

What are your thoughts?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/rishi-sunaks-bodyguards-arrested-alleged-bets-uk-election-111256193
This is a crime not just to his profession, but to the casino as well and I think he deserves whatever punishment given to him. I must commend the casino for carrying out the investigation to fish him out. I have no compassion for gamblers who try to act smart by trying to play some tricks on the casinos or place bets with the correct information they already have at their disposal. That is cheating and should never be encouraged.

But couldn't he have bet using another identity? I mean, he should ask his wife or someone close to him that he trusts to put the bet in his place so that his name is not involved in the matter. This possibility confirms the stupidity of his doing so, no matter how tempting the amount he might have won.
What difference would it make if he hides his identity or gives the information to someone else to bet on his behalf? Yea he will win the bet and his tricky lifestyle will not end there. He is a cheat and we just don't need to encourage people to cheat. He is being paid to be professional yet he rubbed it in the mud and gave out such vital information just for a small amount that is not close to his salary. He is obviously a threat to his boss and deserves whatever he gets. I just hope the casino places a ban on him too.
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It's kind of a wired way of betting to me. I wonder what else they place bet on that sounds very wired. Well, in common sense if the body was so close to the prime Minister, he probably must have gotten a tip from someone on the inside about the election date. That would be the only way he had gotten it and made a bet which is cheating obviously. But it might be a mistake though as no one can actually tell if that's what happened. He might just be blamed falsely just because he works for the prime Minister. He might just be like every other gambling who would have won the bet on similar occasions but the condition of his work just gave him another issue to fight over.

But couldn't he have bet using another identity? I mean, he should ask his wife or someone close to him that he trusts to put the bet in his place so that his name is not involved in the matter. This possibility confirms the stupidity of his doing so, no matter how tempting the amount he might have won.

At the same time, this makes me wonder whether the bodyguard is authorized to see any sensitive state information. Is there a law that prevents people who hold duties in the British administration from placing bets in general? If the accusation is proven, the bodyguard will be accused of using sensitive data obtained as part of his assigned work, and placing a bet is evidence of that and not an accusation in itself.
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Do you want them hanged for this? Come on! Understandably, it is a punishable offense to misuse your powers or the information that you get before others, but it doesn't mean they should be sentenced to life or something like that, that is going to be too severe. Maybe some jail time and a reasonable fine so that they can pay it without having to worry a lot.

Losing your job, spending some time in jail, paying a fine, and facing humiliation should be enough punishment for the guy and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to do that anymore because it is not easy for you to stay in touch with others in power after you are found doing something like that.

So, what he did was a big mistake because he lost everything just for some money he could win with that bet, but again, he didn't expect this to happen.
If anyone is going to be thrown in jail, fined or received any punishment for gambling related financial crime, them it shouldn't just be the punishment alone. Just as there are anger management classes or classes for road traffic offenders there should also be some kind of gambling rehab, responsible gambling classes and courses which should be made mandatory for them to take along with any punishment. The punishment alone doesn't refine and reform or modify the behavior that's where the classes or courses comes in.

If I had elaborated on by comment it would have removed any misunderstanding. My bad. Hope you see my point now?

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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.

In another development, Sunak aide Craig Williams is also under investigation by the Gambling Commission for placing a 100 pound ($128) bet on a July election before the date had been announced.

What are your thoughts?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/rishi-sunaks-bodyguards-arrested-alleged-bets-uk-election-111256193

The most shocking part of this news is that he bet a small amount while earning a salary much higher than the amount he bet, which shows that he made this bet just for fun and not with the aim of winning a lot of money, usually people who have information privileged when they discover that they can place a bet based on privileged information, they bet a large amount of money because they know that they will get the bet right and they know the risk of being caught, so they place a large amount of money so that when they win, have a lot of money capable of compensating if they are caught and punished, and in this case in this story the guy put in a small amount of money, something that won't even be of any help when he is out of a job, people addicted to sports betting and who bet little money when you have privileged information

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.
But if I may ask, how were they able to discover that he made such bet regarding the actual date for the election? And secondly, how was the Gambling Commission of the country able to know that the gambler was the security guard to the prime minister? Or does it mean every bet played on a U.K casino are always registered with an ID Card and job location of each gambler, for them to have known he was the security guard of the Prime Minister? Because I think I'm still yet to understand how it all happened, as he ought to have been free, because who knows, if he had gambled and lost, will the commission have had refunded him? The answer is NO.


From what I could gather from reading this passage:


The commission, which regulates the gambling industry, confirmed it was investigating “the possibility of offences concerning the date of the election."


The arrested officer was released on bail pending further inquiries and has been removed from duty while the force conducts its own investigation.

It seems to me that they just have suspicions that it's him, it's not like they actually have evidence against him, these are those types of political games in which fabricated scandals are used to weaken political opponents.
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But if I may ask, how were they able to discover that he made such bet regarding the actual date for the election?
Because the date has been declared and he won the bet which may lead to further investigation before he can be given the money. You know how gambling sites can be if you won a huge amount of money. We do not know the amount or the person yet, but I guess the amount is huge.

And secondly, how was the Gambling Commission of the country able to know that the gambler was the security guard to the prime minister?
That means he got verified on the gambling site.
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It’s pretty crazy how many people have access to insider knowledge nowadays due to the rise in gambling. With so many different events available to be bet on, it’s hard not to imagine this is a huge problem that will seemingly only get worse over time as gambling becomes more and more widespread and accepted.
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I think that these people new exactly what they were doing. They knew that they were breaking the law. I do not see this as a case of gambling addiction rather as wanting to gain advantage over the gambling platform with pre-information. Will jail time be enough strong punishment to make them change their ways? While they may not be privy to these kind of confidential information again, they may likely pay some else who is close to the leadership to get this information.

Do you want them hanged for this? Come on! Understandably, it is a punishable offense to misuse your powers or the information that you get before others, but it doesn't mean they should be sentenced to life or something like that, that is going to be too severe. Maybe some jail time and a reasonable fine so that they can pay it without having to worry a lot.

Losing your job, spending some time in jail, paying a fine, and facing humiliation should be enough punishment for the guy and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to do that anymore because it is not easy for you to stay in touch with others in power after you are found doing something like that.

So, what he did was a big mistake because he lost everything just for some money he could win with that bet, but again, he didn't expect this to happen.

That's absurd though if they are going to jail for life for such cases. Maybe what he meant is that they should be punished put to jail so that they will realized that what they did was a criminals offense and having a unfair advantage because they have some insider information, very confidential information that also few people know and then he just think of a clever way to make money out of it.

Perhaps he will likely think his choice and decision in life if he gets like months in jail for doing this. I wonder though what will be the effect on the British Prime Minister image here as for sure his political enemies might used this issues to drag his name in the next election. So definitely, this news did some damage to him, IMHO.
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.
But if I may ask, how were they able to discover that he made such bet regarding the actual date for the election? And secondly, how was the Gambling Commission of the country able to know that the gambler was the security guard to the prime minister? Or does it mean every bet played on a U.K casino are always registered with an ID Card and job location of each gambler, for them to have known he was the security guard of the Prime Minister? Because I think I'm still yet to understand how it all happened, as he ought to have been free, because who knows, if he had gambled and lost, will the commission have had refunded him? The answer is NO.
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I think that these people new exactly what they were doing. They knew that they were breaking the law. I do not see this as a case of gambling addiction rather as wanting to gain advantage over the gambling platform with pre-information. Will jail time be enough strong punishment to make them change their ways? While they may not be privy to these kind of confidential information again, they may likely pay some else who is close to the leadership to get this information.

Do you want them hanged for this? Come on! Understandably, it is a punishable offense to misuse your powers or the information that you get before others, but it doesn't mean they should be sentenced to life or something like that, that is going to be too severe. Maybe some jail time and a reasonable fine so that they can pay it without having to worry a lot.

Losing your job, spending some time in jail, paying a fine, and facing humiliation should be enough punishment for the guy and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to do that anymore because it is not easy for you to stay in touch with others in power after you are found doing something like that.

So, what he did was a big mistake because he lost everything just for some money he could win with that bet, but again, he didn't expect this to happen.
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.

In another development, Sunak aide Craig Williams is also under investigation by the Gambling Commission for placing a 100 pound ($128) bet on a July election before the date had been announced.

What are your thoughts?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/rishi-sunaks-bodyguards-arrested-alleged-bets-uk-election-111256193

It's actually quite good when these news stories come out as it shows that the regulators are on the look out and capable of spotting these things. However it's also amazing that these people are willing to throw away such privileged and presumably well paying jobs for a few hundred pounds in winnings. Chances are if this person has been arrested and he holds this role close to the Prime Minister, the evidence will be pretty clear already and while we should not presume guilt - they wouldn't go in so heavy handed without good backing. I like how even these people who are so close to the seats of power are treated the same way as anyone else would be when abusing access to confidential information.
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