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November 28, 2011, 01:09:08 PM
#10
He's just that bloke off the youtube with the 200 views per episode - I'm not that bothered personally. I'll leave judging people to someone more qualified. I've better things to do with my life.

There's enough evidence out there if you cared looking for it. Would a conviction by a court convince you he's a criminal ? I'm sure someone could link to the court documents as well, I've seen them being linked to earlier.

Also, the author (Benjamin Wallace) of the article insists that Bruce Wagner is Bitcoin's chief proselytizer, this would maybe have been the case a while ago, but not any longer, to my knowledge, he (BW)'s been smart enough to keep a low profile since all hell broke lose with the housing scams, mybitcoin, pattaya and everything.

All that's needed for evil to prevail is that no good men speak up.
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November 28, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
#9


Wired is quoting Bruce Wagner, and even having a large picture of him:

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all


http://twitter.com/#!/brucewagner
brucewagner Bruce Wagner
About to go LIVE in 15 with Ben Wallace of Wired Magazine on The Bitcoin Show on OnlyOneTV | global television network bit.ly/oRT4nb


This is very wrong. Clearly, if he or anyone else was a good ambassadeur for bitcoin in general, I'd be the first to give standing ovation, but
by now it's been proven without a shadow of doubt what kind of shady character this Bruce Wagner person is.

If you don't know, just search this forum for his name, and start reading.

WE DO NOT WANT CRIMINALS PROMOTING BITCOIN OR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH INDIVIDUALS!!!

Simple as that.

Please send an e-mail to Benjamin Wallace of Wired ([email protected]) to state your opinion in this matter.

We need to put pressure on both Bruce Wagner and every publication that mentions his name in regards to bitcoin.

I usually don't bad mouth people, but I've had enough of this clown.

He's just that bloke off the youtube with the 200 views per episode - I'm not that bothered personally. I'll leave judging people to someone more qualified. I've better things to do with my life.
legendary
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November 28, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
#8
They got this part right:

pros·e·lyt·ize/ˈpräsələˌtīz/
Verb:   
1. Convert or attempt to convert (someone) from one religion, belief, or opinion to another.

Remember his steadfast opinion about Pattaya? The irony is that if he would have gave on this concern from the get-go, he could possible still be one of Bitcoin's main spokesperson. But Pattaya turned out to be his Waterloo. Oops!
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November 28, 2011, 12:09:25 PM
#7
The author actually wrote "Then Wagner became the target of a countercampaign that publicized a successful lawsuit against him for mortgage fraud, costing him much of his reputation within the community" in the article, but what catched my eye was the big photo of BW with the text "Bitcoin's chief proselytizer, Bruce Wagner, at one of the few New York City restaurants that accept the currency.
Photo: Michael Schmelling"


Phinnaeus Gage: Good thinking.

Altering a web-site is damn easy:

http://www.fslog.com/2007/01/21/javascript-trick-to-edit-the-page-displayed/

Just fetch the javascript part from that page there, put it in the adress bar, then press enter, now you can edit the web page to the content of your heart.

Just on a general note: If someone have been involved in an economic scam, even if this was 10 years ago, I'd NEVER trust them to handle anything related to money at all. People can change, and does so at times, but I won't take my chances.

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
November 28, 2011, 12:04:42 PM
#6
Obviously the journalist did not do even the most basic job before writing this. We should write to the editor. What's next, an article in Business Week about trading, where they interview a jailed expert from Enron without mentioning the scam and the fact that he is in jail?
legendary
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November 28, 2011, 12:01:20 PM
#5

While driving to Ohio (or was it while driving back), I was thinkin' about Bitcoin which lead me to thinkin' 'bout BW. I was picturin', in my mind, those two guys from NPR in BW's office where he happened to have the computer on showin' 25K BTC in a MyBitcoin.com account. This is not disputed. http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=137795648&m=137803856 at 14:45, Jacob(?) sees on the screen the before mentioned amount settin' in MBC. But does he really see that? What if all he really saw was a page to look like MBC with a fake 25K BTC sittin' there. Almost anybody here could set up a page like that to impress whoever, like a girl, for example, or an investor, or someone from the media. See what I'm gettin' at here?

Here is what I came up with. BW never had 25K BTC in MBC. BW and MBC are one and the same. It was gettin' time to close MBC down and reap the rewards, but when and how. The two NPR guys, by happenstance, provided that opportunity. And while the NPR guys were enjoyin' lunch at Meze Grill, POOF! MBC gets hacked(?). What happens in later days is that BW gets all of his 25K BTC back, and everyone else (maybe not everyone) gets 51% (or was it 49%? I didn't bother to research this, but we all know this transpired--It's either 51/49 or 49/51 which is close enough).

Correct me if I'm wrong on the following, though it doesn't make too much of a difference. I don't believe BW ever mentioned having 25K BTC prior to that radio clip, did he? Of course, he would have no reason to, like I would have no reason statin' that I currently have $13,677.31 in my Chase checking account. But if I wanted to impress some young naive girl, all I would have to do is leave on the computer a screen shot of $130,677.31 in my Chase account. She ain't goin' to look at the URL to see the truth. The actual screen shot is so powerful, eyes won't move up to the top of the page. Of course I enter the picture immediately and, with one click of the mouse, I'm off the page, with the screen now showin' the Chase Bank home page. Of course, I now won't tell her that that money isn't mine. The subject would be something on the lines that I'm plannin' a vacation, want to come? Where to? Pattaya!

So let's recap what I believe happened that morning.

Bruce and Ed had a nice breakfast. Ed cooked. The phone rings. It's the two guys from NPR. Sure, come over.

Bruce: We need to get dress, love.
Ed: Why.
Bruce: Two guys are coming over from NPR.
Ed: Are they...
Bruce: No. Better! They want to take about Bitcoin.
Ed: What should we do before they get here?
Bruce: Remember our MBC dilemma?
Ed: Yes.
Bruce: All we need is a fictitious screen shot.
Ed: I'm on it, love.

That said, now punch wholes (wrong word choice?) in my theory.

Bruno
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November 28, 2011, 11:08:37 AM
#4
There's no such thing as "WE"

Would you please elaborate on this ? Is there someone in the bitcoin community that actually
would like to have someone representing bitcoin, or have someone being associated with bitcoin
frequently in the media, who is a known fraudster on a large scale?

I understand you in the context that I can not speak for everyone in the community, neither can you,
but I'd think everyone that has an interest in bitcoin is interested in seeing it prosper, not only in
value against the USD, but also in terms of trade ?


Bruce Wagner is definately not the person to advocate bitcoin.
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1davout
November 28, 2011, 10:55:25 AM
#2
There's no such thing as "WE"
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November 28, 2011, 10:48:45 AM
#1


Wired is quoting Bruce Wagner, and even having a large picture of him:

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all


http://twitter.com/#!/brucewagner
brucewagner Bruce Wagner
About to go LIVE in 15 with Ben Wallace of Wired Magazine on The Bitcoin Show on OnlyOneTV | global television network bit.ly/oRT4nb


This is very wrong. Clearly, if he or anyone else was a good ambassadeur for bitcoin in general, I'd be the first to give standing ovation, but
by now it's been proven without a shadow of doubt what kind of shady character this Bruce Wagner person is.

If you don't know, just search this forum for his name, and start reading.

WE DO NOT WANT CRIMINALS PROMOTING BITCOIN OR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH INDIVIDUALS!!!

Simple as that.

Please send an e-mail to Benjamin Wallace of Wired ([email protected]) to state your opinion in this matter.

We need to put pressure on both Bruce Wagner and every publication that mentions his name in regards to bitcoin.

I usually don't bad mouth people, but I've had enough of this clown.
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