Topic: BTC $66, seems everyone is dumping? (Read 3298 times)
im slowly buying since it below 100.. and will continue as it go down.. I have no problem at all with BTC price ! I enjoy rides down as ride up !
Bottom-line is that either people believe in the long term viability of Bitcoin or not. I would like to see some analysis on the cost of production for a single BTC, That would be a price that should have a great support level. That would be a place I would enter the market.
Assuming 7.5 J/GH (that is, an ASIC), USD 0.10 per kWh and current difficulty (and block reward): USD 0.76.
Bottom-line is that either people believe in the long term viability of Bitcoin or not.
Viability, that is funny. "In bubble we trust" is the motto of people buying into bitcoin, hoping to sell it for nice fiat once it reaches another top.
It needs some more innovations to make it so joe six pack can use it, Right now it's not a mainstream medium of exchange.
Once the non tech savvy can use Bitcoin and interact with it on a daily basis then it will have a real value instead of a speculative value with only tech savvy people looking to pump it and dump it.
That's my opinion anyway.
It will be very intersting to see, if the ASICs are mass delivered and the price crashed hard so that they can not make back the electricity, what will people do? 
Mine PPC or even TRC.
For those who's still holding bitcoins with great values, you might bet better start thinking of solving the issue of bitcoin circulation in ordinary life:
bitcoin ebay = Bitmit
bitcoin movie = The Pirate Bay
bitcoin music = CoinDL
bitcoin food = Pizza for coins, Foodler, and several restaurants with gift certs on Gyft. :3
too bad people can buy way less for their btc. dump them.
For those who's still holding bitcoins with great values, you might bet better start thinking of solving the issue of bitcoin circulation in ordinary life:
bitcoin ebay = Bitmit
bitcoin movie = The Pirate Bay
bitcoin music = CoinDL
bitcoin food = Pizza for coins, Foodler, and several restaurants with gift certs on Gyft. :3
BTC $66, seems everyone is dumping? Anyone has an idea about why? I don't understand, people are not trusting bitcoin anymore? or it's because people are rushing for the BFL boxes?
How many of bitcointalkers having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially network difficulties changes and block chain protocols AND STILL think ASIC, BFL, Avalon mining are good investment?
For those who's still holding bitcoins with great values, you might bet better start thinking of solving the issue of bitcoin circulation in ordinary life, like bitcoin ebay, bitcoin movie, bitcoin music, bitcoin food.... that's the only way to save bitcoin.
How many of bitcointalkers having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially network difficulties changes and block chain protocols AND STILL think ASIC, BFL, Avalon mining are good investment?
For those who's still holding bitcoins with great values, you might bet better start thinking of solving the issue of bitcoin circulation in ordinary life, like bitcoin ebay, bitcoin movie, bitcoin music, bitcoin food.... that's the only way to save bitcoin.
you think?
Bottom-line is that either people believe in the long term viability of Bitcoin or not.
Viability, that is funny. "In bubble we trust" is the motto of people buying into bitcoin, hoping to sell it for nice fiat once it reaches another top.
Bottom-line is that either people believe in the long term viability of Bitcoin or not. I would like to see some analysis on the cost of production for a single BTC, That would be a price that should have a great support level. That would be a place I would enter the market.
Who wants to buy some silver?
Who wants to buy some silver?
Cost of production depends on the number of participants. The cost is 10x when there are 36000 people mining coins, comparing to when there are only 3600 people mining bitcoins
I told you so
I predicted this days ago - price is now headed to 50 - Read: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/heres-how-the-gox-debacle-plays-out-over-the-next-few-days-249490
I predicted this days ago - price is now headed to 50 - Read: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/heres-how-the-gox-debacle-plays-out-over-the-next-few-days-249490
So you're the reason people are panicking.
You're post has no evidence for Mt.Gox lacking funds. Their statement says they processed over 1M to US customers by manual methods. All you'd have to do is find someone that was in fact able to receive funds which shouldn't be hard, but instead you spread FUD. That's the real reason you amplify the price crash, which already had downward pressure because of the efficiency of ASICs coming online. Nice job.
Bottom-line is that either people believe in the long term viability of Bitcoin or not. I would like to see some analysis on the cost of production for a single BTC, That would be a price that should have a great support level. That would be a place I would enter the market.
Who wants to buy some silver?
Who wants to buy some silver?
Was there a massive sell off recently?
It will be very intersting to see, if the ASICs are mass delivered and the price crashed hard so that they can not make back the electricity, what will people do?
I wish it were easier for me to buy at this price. Closest localbitcoins person is not very close.
My localbitcoins sell ad are on, but did not receive any buy order recently
BTC $66, seems everyone is dumping?
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Nah. Not everyone is dumping. Every single one of those trades where someone is selling has someone on the other side of the trade that is buying. There are as many people taking advantage of this drop in exchange rate to purchase cheap coins as there are people panicking and dumping what they own. - snip -
Of course. Because it would still be true.
The point is not that no one is buying bitcoin, it's that it's value is rapidly falling.
If that was the point, then instead of saying "seems everyone is dumping?", it would have made more sense to say "seems the exchange rate is dropping?" (exchange rate and value are not always the same thing).
Obviously it is falling rapidly. But "everyone" isn't "dumping". There are as many people "shoveling in" what they feel are cheap bitcoins as there are people "dumping" what they feel are over-priced bitcoins. The fact that *you* feel they are over priced, and that many others feel the same shouldn't blind you to the fact that there are still many buyers.
BTC $66, seems everyone is dumping? Anyone has an idea about why? I don't understand, people are not trusting bitcoin anymore? or it's because people are rushing for the BFL boxes?
How many of bitcointalkers having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially network difficulties changes and block chain protocols AND STILL think ASIC, BFL, Avalon mining are good investment?
How many of bitcointalkers having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially network difficulties changes and block chain protocols AND STILL think ASIC, BFL, Avalon mining are good investment?
Mining Bitcoin isn't profitable anymore. Most of the people backing Bitcoin were making money from mining. They are switching to LTC and PPC.
Interesting though. I wonder how low the exchange rate has to go before ASIC stop producing more than operating costs, and miners start shutting off their rigs for a bit?
That's an interesting question -- no idea what the answer might be now, but you can get a first glimpse from an historical perspective by comparing the graph of total network hashing rate with the graph of USD vs. BTC:
http://bitcoin.sipa.be
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD
The latter has a checkbox for "Custom Time", which lets you set whatever interval you'd like.
When BTC took its sudden dip in mid-2011, for example, there was a less sudden drop in total network power which began soon after. No doubt there's more to the decision, but the exchange rate is bound to be a big part of it.
I wish it were easier for me to buy at this price. Closest localbitcoins person is not very close.
BTC $66, seems everyone is dumping? Anyone has an idea about why? I don't understand, people are not trusting bitcoin anymore? or it's because people are rushing for the BFL boxes?
How many of bitcointalkers having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially network difficulties changes and block chain protocols AND STILL think ASIC, BFL, Avalon mining are good investment?
How many of bitcointalkers having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially network difficulties changes and block chain protocols AND STILL think ASIC, BFL, Avalon mining are good investment?
Again, two of these companies support decentralized mining and are a good thing not a bad thing. The company that mines hardcore with their own ASICS is the one causing the problem.
BTC $66, seems everyone is dumping?
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Nah. Not everyone is dumping. Every single one of those trades where someone is selling has someone on the other side of the trade that is buying. There are as many people taking advantage of this drop in exchange rate to purchase cheap coins as there are people panicking and dumping what they own.
This is funny. So when bitcoin is at $1 and this is happening (someone is selling and someone is buying) you will still say that all is well?
The point is not that no one is buying bitcoin, it's that it's value is rapidly falling.
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