Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 33. (Read 277012 times)
August 08, 2014, 01:03:57 AM
Can't believe this is STILL going on!
August 07, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
some discrepancy, I got nothing until now 
August 07, 2014, 10:24:11 AM
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
That means our spreadsheet is quite wrong. The good thing is, we will get fully refunded faster than expected. According to BTC-Arbs it was less than 500 BTC in total. Refunded more then 100 within 2 months. So we may all get refunded till summer next year. yeah, would be uber-cool. But, wait... how comes that I only received 0,2 btc (!!!) out of 30,6 ?? less than 1% ?
I just hope it will really speed up quickly...
August 07, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
That means our spreadsheet is quite wrong. The good thing is, we will get fully refunded faster than expected. According to BTC-Arbs it was less than 500 BTC in total. Refunded more then 100 within 2 months. So we may all get refunded till summer next year. 
August 07, 2014, 08:44:44 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
PM sent.
August 07, 2014, 06:58:21 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
Sorry to hear that people can't behave themselves when your'e trying to make things right.
Per your request, I've sent you a PM with my information.
Thank you.
August 07, 2014, 04:33:12 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
Still no payment or reply here...
August 06, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
IMPORTANT UPDATE
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.
b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.
c. More payments sent.
August 06, 2014, 07:06:21 PM
Hey BTC-Arb,
Can you post an update on when we can expect the 2nd round of payments? I was hoping for something like 'Round 1: x out of n investors repaid'. I think this will help us see progress and resolve some more skepticism as it seems like your making more payments than people are posting and acknowledge they've received a payment. I don't think this would take much extra work on your end as I'm sure you have some spreadsheet tracking all this and you can just post it in your payments being made soon messages.
I think this will help with transparency and allow everyone to be patient, at least it will for me.
Can you post an update on when we can expect the 2nd round of payments? I was hoping for something like 'Round 1: x out of n investors repaid'. I think this will help us see progress and resolve some more skepticism as it seems like your making more payments than people are posting and acknowledge they've received a payment. I don't think this would take much extra work on your end as I'm sure you have some spreadsheet tracking all this and you can just post it in your payments being made soon messages.
I think this will help with transparency and allow everyone to be patient, at least it will for me.
I think you're in for a little bit of a wait. I sent a pm and Email on 6/8. I haven't even been acknowledged yet, let alone a first payment or schedule.
August 06, 2014, 06:26:28 PM
More refunds being sent in 5 minutes.
Send mail 3-6, send PM, always, I have tried, with respect ... I suggested, different forms of payment, and anyway ... I have not heard from you.
August 06, 2014, 06:00:33 PM
Hey BTC-Arb,
Can you post an update on when we can expect the 2nd round of payments? I was hoping for something like 'Round 1: x out of n investors repaid'. I think this will help us see progress and resolve some more skepticism as it seems like your making more payments than people are posting and acknowledge they've received a payment. I don't think this would take much extra work on your end as I'm sure you have some spreadsheet tracking all this and you can just post it in your payments being made soon messages.
I think this will help with transparency and allow everyone to be patient, at least it will for me.
Can you post an update on when we can expect the 2nd round of payments? I was hoping for something like 'Round 1: x out of n investors repaid'. I think this will help us see progress and resolve some more skepticism as it seems like your making more payments than people are posting and acknowledge they've received a payment. I don't think this would take much extra work on your end as I'm sure you have some spreadsheet tracking all this and you can just post it in your payments being made soon messages.
I think this will help with transparency and allow everyone to be patient, at least it will for me.
August 06, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
I sent email the day after he announced his pay back plans and still havent received anything back. Is he only paying back people who sent PMs. I want to send a PM but he asked to not send duplicates. I dont understand why people who sent PMs after me, are already getting refunds.
August 06, 2014, 04:57:53 AM
Sorry it is late to reply this thread, as was busy in real life.
I have recieved my first refund of 0.1 BTC on 21 Jul, although it is not much of my 3.5BTC capitial. But it still a great move. Keep going, thx admin.
My BTC-arbs login is miahugo.
I have recieved my first refund of 0.1 BTC on 21 Jul, although it is not much of my 3.5BTC capitial. But it still a great move. Keep going, thx admin.
My BTC-arbs login is miahugo.
August 06, 2014, 01:17:53 AM
More refunds being sent in 5 minutes.
Fingers crossed
August 06, 2014, 01:11:52 AM
More refunds being sent in 5 minutes.
August 05, 2014, 01:51:17 PM
Btc- arbs just messaged me the other day and I asking for some info so he appears to still be keeping up the good fight. I am owned 1 btc
I provided the info he asked for and I will update the thread again when any refund has been made, thanks you.
I provided the info he asked for and I will update the thread again when any refund has been made, thanks you.
August 05, 2014, 08:53:51 AM
this is like MT.Gox story many got burnt again
August 05, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
The US vituperates a bit, just for testing. They are checking out for ways to keep the Bitcoin small. If the Bitcoin will grow to much, I guess they will be more aggressiv. Bitcoin is made by enthusiasts. There is no real force wich may save the Bitcoin. The US will never accept another currency large enough to be as stromg as the US Dollar. Maybe some of you have noticed, the war in Iraq and Syria started shortly after the decision to sell Oil for Euros only.
August 04, 2014, 10:09:57 PM
This is a whole bunch of shit
You're right, I use to get pissed at Yonce for changing the subject and now I'm entertaining the same kind of crap. I'm calling off the hounds..... sorry for the rant.
August 04, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
No, this law does not stop a person from doing arbitrage, much less customers in NY from working with sites outside of NY. The law is an attempt to license dealers. Basically Dealers would undergo background checks and would have to show that business would be conducted "honestly, fairly, equitably, carefully, and efficiently." Strait out of the liberal book of idiots yelling "more government please"! However; no place does it say a person that invest money with someone/business in another state, country, or planet that is unlicensed would make the later someone/business illegal.
Lesnod11, I don't know where you are getting your information but I can quote the proposed regulations. Bitcoin is my weekend/evening job; it's my business to know these things at a professional level. I don't intend to sound rude or condescending, but this literally is my 2nd job.
An entity can still do arbitrage on their own behalf - using their own money - but they follow a different set of rules when using someone else's money. Part 200.2(n) says that a "Virtual Currency Business Activity means the conduct of any one of the following types of activities involving New York or a New York Resident: ... [part 2] securing, storing, holding, or maintaining custody or control of Virtual Currency on behalf of others."
Then, 200.3 (a) states "No Person shall, without a license obtained from the superintendent as provided in this Part, engage in any Virtual Currency Business Activity."
So, any entity/person holding or controlling Bitcoin for a New York resident MUST have a license. Out of the hundreds of customers Btc-Arbs had, they almost certainly have at least a few New York residents. Btc-Arbs would also fall under the definition of the regulation in other sections as well. The full text is at http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf
In order to avoid just that quoted section, btc-arbs would need to fully refund all New York residents before the regulation goes into effect. And even then, any of those residents could say that the claimed profits are still owed to them.
LOL - and of those of us who are not actively involved in btc mining, trading, arbitrage and otherwise don't have it as a second job? Don't get me wrong, but it's very condescending, not to mention naive to think the rest of us are not on the same page and work just as hard to both better the community and make money from it. Once again, nowhere does it say a person can't invest in another persons business that is located elsewhere, even what you quote doesn't state that....... The point to this was to somehow implement laws to stop things like gox, however; if a person has money or traded on gox and they lived in NY the state can do nothing to stop them.
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