Topic: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches. (Read 4991 times)
I remember seeing a shop in Kusadasi, Turkey, had a sign out front "Genuine Fake Watches". Still makes me chuckle to this day. I think I still have a pic of it on my iPhone.
Nothing to be confused about... it is the simple protection that online purchases demand. If I am going to send off my funds to an anonymous person who claims to have the goods I wish to purchase, I do not have a retail point of sale that I can go back to and address any misrepresentation, service needs, or inoperable item. If I buy something at a local store and there is a problem I can get it fixed at that store. Nameless, faceless pretend people on the internet don't have that feature. So escrow makes good sense.
Especially when the seller is a shady piece of trash like BTC Guy with loads of controversy, bullshit stories, bad out of focus photos of the goods, and an obvious pack of lies about how he came into possession of those goods. It's not about paying for the goods before you receive them, it is about have recourse against unethical, criminal sellers who deliver goods radically different from what they offered for sale. Using an escrow is just a way to protect both the seller and the buyer in the transaction.
It is a huge red flag when a seller refuses to escrow a sale, and any thinking person would be well advised to strike that potential deal, odds are you will be disappointed.
Especially when the seller is a shady piece of trash like BTC Guy with loads of controversy, bullshit stories, bad out of focus photos of the goods, and an obvious pack of lies about how he came into possession of those goods. It's not about paying for the goods before you receive them, it is about have recourse against unethical, criminal sellers who deliver goods radically different from what they offered for sale. Using an escrow is just a way to protect both the seller and the buyer in the transaction.
It is a huge red flag when a seller refuses to escrow a sale, and any thinking person would be well advised to strike that potential deal, odds are you will be disappointed.
I'm very confused as to why people in this thread think paying for goods before you receive them is an odd concept.
Got this PM today:
Hello
Never been on this site before, but just had three people showup to my door that claim that they were from this site and claim he took him for 4k for a fail transaction, that came from MD, wonderiing if I was BTCGUY and this pr#ck is using my name and address on this forum I need any info from anyone, that had a transaction with this guy, to track him down. Looking for someone that had a successful transaction with this guy as with a tracking number so I can see what postoffice the package actually came from, or city, as he using my address in his profile, but is not where it was shipped from as I am the real Maurice Rivera and have no knowledge about this site except for what the member that showup to my door explained.
I repeat I am not BTCGUY, or any other alias he may have when under. But am the real Maurice Rivera and this a##hoe using my name and address, I reporting this guy to the police, but they need more info, So anyone with tracking info if you ever receive a package from him would be a good start, or any email address or phone number he may have used, or other name he may have when under.
My email address is [email protected] PM me and I give you phone # 773-354-3925
I am in no way connected to this guy and is now consider identify fraud as I am filing a report.
Never been on this site before, but just had three people showup to my door that claim that they were from this site and claim he took him for 4k for a fail transaction, that came from MD, wonderiing if I was BTCGUY and this pr#ck is using my name and address on this forum I need any info from anyone, that had a transaction with this guy, to track him down. Looking for someone that had a successful transaction with this guy as with a tracking number so I can see what postoffice the package actually came from, or city, as he using my address in his profile, but is not where it was shipped from as I am the real Maurice Rivera and have no knowledge about this site except for what the member that showup to my door explained.
I repeat I am not BTCGUY, or any other alias he may have when under. But am the real Maurice Rivera and this a##hoe using my name and address, I reporting this guy to the police, but they need more info, So anyone with tracking info if you ever receive a package from him would be a good start, or any email address or phone number he may have used, or other name he may have when under.
My email address is [email protected] PM me and I give you phone # 773-354-3925
I am in no way connected to this guy and is now consider identify fraud as I am filing a report.
I bought GPU's from him with no problem
Apparently I was just the first of his victims. 
I bought GPU's from him with no problem
I can confirm that I attempted to purchase a small amount of this portfolio if he was willing to ship first. He refused. Not that this is proof of anything, but it does indicate he may have had his suspicions that some of the jewelry is fake, without disclosing it.
I purchased a mobo and some riser cables from BTC GUY a few months back and had no issues at all.
Second: I was gonna save some BTC's and buy a 5850 from this guy.
First: I actually asked if he would send off a 5850, and let it mine itself off. He wanted BTC in hand before shipping.
Looks like everything is being put in place against this person.
Can any reputable members vouch for this btc buy person?
First: I actually asked if he would send off a 5850, and let it mine itself off. He wanted BTC in hand before shipping.
Looks like everything is being put in place against this person.
Can any reputable members vouch for this btc buy person?
The race horse actually wasn't a scam, the folks that offered the investment made good on every single share sold at the IPO price.
these?
Quote
my grandma gave me this today. she told me i could sell it or do whatever i want with it. i could sell some pieces separate but would rather sell it all together. buy it all for $500.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1080701bitcoiners fall for another classic scam/ grift.
So far we have had the race horse scam, jewelry (need to sell) scam and to many ponzi's to boot.
Dont feel bad, you just paid for a valuable life lesson.
these?
Quote
my grandma gave me this today. she told me i could sell it or do whatever i want with it. i could sell some pieces separate but would rather sell it all together. buy it all for $500.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1080701bitcoiners fall for another classic scam/ grift.
So far we have had the race horse scam, jewelry (need to sell) scam and to many ponzi's to boot.
Dont feel bad, you just paid for a valuable life lesson.
He did say that he had no idea what the stuff was worth, he also offered you a refund if you returned them. Take the refund or stop complaining.
I would gladly take the refund. Read this thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pay-btc-hash-king-pirate-account-102224
Ya, I saw the thread you hijacked and pretty much drove as far off topic as one could.
Looks like you repeatedly refused refunds until the offer was withdrawn.
i dont feel escrow is necessary.
i really have no idea what this stuff is worth.
^^^ This makes it absolutely necessary imo
He did say that he had no idea what the stuff was worth, he also offered you a refund if you returned them. Take the refund or stop complaining.
I would gladly take the refund. Read this thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pay-btc-hash-king-pirate-account-102224
He didn't trust that he would get his refund 
That is all fine and well, but think of it from the seller's point of view. You state you don't know what the item is worth, the buyer says they are not worth anything and wants money back but will not return the items.
He already trusted him with both the bitcoins and the watches prior to them being shipped, so why not trust him with both again to get a refund? If he returns the watches and gets no refund then he has a valid complaint.
He didn't trust that he would get his refund
He did say that he had no idea what the stuff was worth, he also offered you a refund if you returned them. Take the refund or stop complaining.
You might be able to get a little bit of $ back for them, maybe even a good amount back if they are fairly good quality/hard to tell the difference. Just sell them as fake watches etc, and people will buy them. Do make sure you list them as fakes though lol.
Jump to: