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November 10, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
#49
But i think, the ease to use them is the most crucial thing that BTC system still need to resolve.
don't mean to compare, but see the OS battle, every store owner still uses 'that' OS instead of that one which is open sourced and which should has better things.

My own experience, before i know how to use BTC, i need to know so much technical term (keys, wallet, blockchain, offline, cold storage, signing, address etc..) they are overwhelming at first, and may presents some 'obstacle'. Yes, there are services who make it easy for merchants to receive the bits, but i do hope that the store owners will not always directly exchange them to fiat currency
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November 10, 2014, 09:08:45 PM
#48
Apple’s decision to get involved in the payment processing industry will certainly have repercussions for Bitcoin.Apple is beating bitcoin in terms of the customer experience. Its ecosystem is exceedingly user friendly and customer focused.
There are a lot of people who have a lot of problems with apple. The fact that apple is such a large company, there are a lot of opportunities to create negative customer experiences. This is not possible with the decentralized nature of bitcoin
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November 09, 2014, 10:44:47 PM
#47
Bitcoin is a really new payment system,while the Applepay is the one built on the old payment.
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November 09, 2014, 06:54:24 PM
#46
I think Apple Pay (even though I use apple products) is just another corporate scheme to make money off peoples laziness or ignorance. Most likely the latter.
I would say that it is a way to get more people to upgrade to the iPhone 6 then what would otherwise upgrade. The fact that the iPhones are proving to last longer then apple anticipated, owners of the iPhone have little other reason to upgrade other then apple pay
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November 09, 2014, 02:22:01 PM
#45
If you do not have credit card or money in the bank, BTC is better than Apple Pay.
If this situation applies to you then you will likely not have money to buy bitcoin in the first place. Generally speaking people without money in the bank have very little money/assets in the first place, and the marginal benefits of bitcoin would be very little to these people

EDIT: as mentioned above, it is a good point that if you do not have money in the bank you will likely not have the means to buy an iPhone in the first place

But one of the best things about Bitcoins is that you can work for them online, or sell things for them online. There is a a more clean-cut way of getting Bitcoins than trying to buy them straight out. My first Bitcoins (besides the minuscule amount of Satoshi from faucets) were from a graphic design job on here.
You can get and earn traditional fiat money just as easily online.
I found Bitcoins to be a lot easier to get then fiat money. Of course I needed internet first to find people who will pay in Bitcoins. But internet is a lot cheaper than an iPhone/service plan.
Apple pay is designed for people who have enough money for an iPhone and will likely be targeted to the more affluent crowd.
If someone doesn't want to use a credit card for personal reasons, or doesn't have money in the bank, but can work for Bitcoins, or sell products for Bitcoins, they are much easier to use.
Huh You are stating the obvious.
BTC is a currency, Apple Pay is a transaction processing system.They're incomparable.

Bitcoin is a transaction processing system (with its own currency). If you disagree, then please tell me the purpose of the block chain.

I'm not sure why you're responding to me. I was posting to Eisenhower34, who said, "If this situation applies to you then you will likely not have money to buy bitcoin in the first place."

I was pointing out to them you don't need to buy Bitcoins to have them and use them.
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November 09, 2014, 12:47:05 PM
#44
I think Apple Pay (even though I use apple products) is just another corporate scheme to make money off peoples laziness or ignorance. Most likely the latter.
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November 09, 2014, 09:12:59 AM
#43
The both are not comparable.
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November 08, 2014, 06:16:56 PM
#42
Apple is my favorite brand, I can't believe my life without apple. So apple is best for me.
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November 08, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
#41
If you do not have credit card or money in the bank, BTC is better than Apple Pay.
If this situation applies to you then you will likely not have money to buy bitcoin in the first place. Generally speaking people without money in the bank have very little money/assets in the first place, and the marginal benefits of bitcoin would be very little to these people

EDIT: as mentioned above, it is a good point that if you do not have money in the bank you will likely not have the means to buy an iPhone in the first place

But one of the best things about Bitcoins is that you can work for them online, or sell things for them online. There is a a more clean-cut way of getting Bitcoins than trying to buy them straight out. My first Bitcoins (besides the minuscule amount of Satoshi from faucets) were from a graphic design job on here.
You can get and earn traditional fiat money just as easily online.
I found Bitcoins to be a lot easier to get then fiat money. Of course I needed internet first to find people who will pay in Bitcoins. But internet is a lot cheaper than an iPhone/service plan.
Apple pay is designed for people who have enough money for an iPhone and will likely be targeted to the more affluent crowd.
If someone doesn't want to use a credit card for personal reasons, or doesn't have money in the bank, but can work for Bitcoins, or sell products for Bitcoins, they are much easier to use.
Huh You are stating the obvious.
BTC is a currency, Apple Pay is a transaction processing system.They're incomparable.

Bitcoin is a transaction processing system (with its own currency). If you disagree, then please tell me the purpose of the block chain.
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November 08, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
#40
Apple’s decision to get involved in the payment processing industry will certainly have repercussions for Bitcoin.Apple is beating bitcoin in terms of the customer experience. Its ecosystem is exceedingly user friendly and customer focused.
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November 08, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
#39
BTC is a currency, Apple Pay is a transaction processing system.They're incomparable.

Bitcoin is a transaction processing system (with its own currency). If you disagree, then please tell me the purpose of the block chain.
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November 08, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
#38
If you do not have credit card or money in the bank, BTC is better than Apple Pay.
If this situation applies to you then you will likely not have money to buy bitcoin in the first place. Generally speaking people without money in the bank have very little money/assets in the first place, and the marginal benefits of bitcoin would be very little to these people

EDIT: as mentioned above, it is a good point that if you do not have money in the bank you will likely not have the means to buy an iPhone in the first place

But one of the best things about Bitcoins is that you can work for them online, or sell things for them online. There is a a more clean-cut way of getting Bitcoins than trying to buy them straight out. My first Bitcoins (besides the minuscule amount of Satoshi from faucets) were from a graphic design job on here.

I found Bitcoins to be a lot easier to get then fiat money. Of course I needed internet first to find people who will pay in Bitcoins. But internet is a lot cheaper than an iPhone/service plan.

If someone doesn't want to use a credit card for personal reasons, or doesn't have money in the bank, but can work for Bitcoins, or sell products for Bitcoins, they are much easier to use.

As far as comparing them, I agree that Bitcoins are a currency and Apple Pay is not and it is silly to compare them in that light.
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November 08, 2014, 06:22:08 AM
#37
BTC is a currency, Apple Pay is a transaction processing system.They're incomparable.
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October 29, 2014, 08:44:01 AM
#36
For me the btc is definitely better than apple pay.
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October 29, 2014, 03:45:33 AM
#35
Simple, bitcoin is better. You know why? Because of the community it has created in this years. And because of this strong community bitcoin is not going fall to any threat.
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October 29, 2014, 01:17:36 AM
#34
If you do not have credit card or money in the bank, BTC is better than Apple Pay.
If this situation applies to you then you will likely not have money to buy bitcoin in the first place. Generally speaking people without money in the bank have very little money/assets in the first place, and the marginal benefits of bitcoin would be very little to these people

EDIT: as mentioned above, it is a good point that if you do not have money in the bank you will likely not have the means to buy an iPhone in the first place
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October 29, 2014, 01:08:31 AM
#33
If you do not have credit card or money in the bank, BTC is better than Apple Pay.

That is right. How can you get an iphone if you do not have the money in the first place.
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The cheddar breed jealousy
October 28, 2014, 09:39:07 PM
#32
Of course it is better than Apple Pay.
There are many kinks to workout with Apple Pay as it is Apple; they don't test prior to release...
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October 28, 2014, 09:14:39 PM
#31
If you do not have credit card or money in the bank, BTC is better than Apple Pay.
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October 22, 2014, 08:14:19 PM
#30
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/applepay-double-spends-users-money-bitcoin-user-not-affected/

ApplePay Double Spends Users’ Money: Bitcoin User Not Affected

Earlier this week, Apple’s new mobile NFC payment network, ApplePay, went live. From its first few days of life, huge issues are already popping up regarding ApplePay’s security. Multiple users are reporting that using ApplePay has resulted in duplicate charges to their bank statement. CNN Money’s Samuel Burke found out about the double spends after forgoing a card swipe and using ApplePay at several merchants:

    I logged into my debit card account and found that I was charged twice for every purchase I made with ApplePay. A quick search on Twitter found other people with the same problem.

For security’s sake, Apple doesn’t keep any identifiable data for transactions, this means that this automatic error that has effected so many ApplePay users can’t be changed by Apple. Of course, Burke went to customer service at both Apple and Bank of America and was unsurprisingly directed from one to the other again and again. Burke was able to get the transactions reversed by his bank, Bank of America, only after an hour on the phone in a three-way call with both Apple and Bank of America. The money was charged twice by the merchant paid with ApplePay, meaning the issue is most certainly on Apple’s end. The issue seems to be isolated to users using ApplePay in conjunction with their Bank of America Debit Card, a very common occurrence. Burke heard from a source that Apple would be fixing this issue with their banking partner, and likely API, today on Wednesday. Apple declined to comment on the issue.
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