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Topic: BTC Needs users and not hoarders - page 3. (Read 3627 times)

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August 30, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
#9
tl;dr Use Bitcoin for transactions/e-commerce as much as possible, but let's not demonize holders either.

That's not my message. I just would like the medium to large holders to spend regularly whatever small % and replenish.
That would easily double the volume.
legendary
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Merit: 1007
August 30, 2014, 08:06:40 AM
#8
Partially true, partially wrong, OP.

I think it was user Rampion who phrased it something like "the long-term holders are the ones who provide the price foundation of BTC, and the shorter-term investors - and I would add: users - are those who once in a while primarily drive the 'growth spurts' to the next price level."

I think hoarders are using BTC as store of value (at best). But it's at their own risk. Cause it might also fail.

What I am proposing is a win-win situation. Using BTC will only make it stronger and more spread. Ultimately, merchants will keep BTC instead of dumping it immediately.

I don't disagree with you on that: we need adoption (both by buyers and sellers) to grow, otherwise, it's mainly speculation.

But I added two points to that: a) holders are users as well, using btc as a store of wealth, and b) because of their reluctance to sell, their participation provides a price/market cap floor (which is useful as well).

tl;dr Use Bitcoin for transactions/e-commerce as much as possible, but let's not demonize holders either.
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Activity: 87
Merit: 10
August 30, 2014, 07:55:39 AM
#7
Partially true, partially wrong, OP.

I think it was user Rampion who phrased it something like "the long-term holders are the ones who provide the price foundation of BTC, and the shorter-term investors - and I would add: users - are those who once in a while primarily drive the 'growth spurts' to the next price level."

I think hoarders are using BTC as store of value (at best). But it's at their own risk. Cause it might also fail.

What I am proposing is a win-win situation. Using BTC will only make it stronger and more spread. Ultimately, merchants will keep BTC instead of dumping it immediately.
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
August 30, 2014, 07:50:33 AM
#6
hoarders are also users, or at least potential users. Even for hoarders, BTC being bought and dumped b
by them are btc being used after all, right?

Not at all.
It's like Forex vs real life :: Speculation vs real value.
Trading on an exchange and using BTC daily is very different. The volume will be extremely organic and healthy.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
August 30, 2014, 07:50:10 AM
#5
Partially true, partially wrong, OP.

I think it was user Rampion who phrased it something like "the long-term holders are the ones who provide the price foundation of BTC, and the shorter-term investors - and I would add: users - are those who, once in a while, are the primary force behind another 'growth spurt' to the next price level."
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August 30, 2014, 07:38:50 AM
#4
hoarders are also users, or at least potential users. Even for hoarders, BTC being bought and dumped b
by them are btc being used after all, right?
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
August 30, 2014, 07:32:04 AM
#3
Only letting people what's in their best interest will let us know if bitcoin continues to be successful or not.

You are then using the very effective phrase : "Believe me, I am an engineer"

How about being the cool kid using the cool tech.
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
August 30, 2014, 07:21:27 AM
#2
We should try to increase our usage of BTC, in our daily transactions. It is the only way we can really come to trust this new technology and dump CCs.

Random idea:
On your next purchase on an e-commerce website accepting btc, buy bitcoins and use them instantly. Like a reverse bitpay.

What do you think of it as an actual business?

Ouf!!!

Only letting people what's in their best interest will let us know if bitcoin continues to be successful or not.
For the time being, it is!
member
Activity: 87
Merit: 10
August 30, 2014, 06:45:53 AM
#1
We should try to increase our usage of BTC, in our daily transactions. It is the only way we can really come to trust this new technology and dump CCs.

Random idea:
On your next purchase on an e-commerce website accepting btc, buy bitcoins and use them instantly. Like a reverse bitpay.

What do you think of it as an actual business?
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