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Topic: BTC100 CNY exchange reports 80,000btc 24hr volume (Read 5080 times)

legendary
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Trading 72,000BTC in 24 hours with only 2% price movement (855-875)? Really don't understand why people are so obsessed with such blatant fake volume.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Here we go. It's 72,000 btc again.

Either it's a bug or the whales are secretly using this exchange as an escrow service to make giant trades on the downlow. ("hey if you put a 70,000btc ask on this unknown chinese exchange I'll buy it")
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
When it really arrives they will have over 99% of the volume.
Agreed, and no matter what is happening @ BTC100, the word is getting around there.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1002
I check it about 5 times a day minimum.  Wink

Chinese volume is 72% of the market if you believe BTC100 did 20k of vol in the last 24 hours. But even if you exclude them, it's still over 55%.

This still represents only a tiny fraction of the adoption level per capita in the US. When it really arrives they will have over 99% of the volume.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
Check the CNY volume compered to the USD, either they are all lying or BTC has finally arrived there:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3290245
legendary
Activity: 1148
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In Satoshi I Trust
just a bug or scam. nothing more.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
Volume is back to 1.5k and no news, so we will just have to keep guessing.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1002
Trading platform can easily create a fictive volume with a trading bot, buy and sell a coin 80k times a day without charging any fee or spread Wink

Yes, but it would be very harmful to them. Traders using their site would be able to see that something was going on very quickly. Also the fact that their volume literally went up 50000% in a day makes it unlikely that this was some kind of "clever ruse."

What seems most likely to me is that a combination of lowered trading fees and an incentive program they just launched allowed someone to trade for free or make a rebate on otherwise unprofitable trades, and they decided to exploit this until it was noticed.

We won't know until the site op posts an update.
legendary
Activity: 1988
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Beyond Imagination
Trading platform can easily create a fictive volume with a trading bot, buy and sell a coin 80k times a day without charging any fee or spread Wink
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
btckan has market depth:
http://btckan.com/chart/btc100
the price would have moved several hundred yuan, if there is even that much there

and that rebate promotion is actually a sale of their shares, meaning the more you trade the more shares you get
in any case if its true, it must have been an arranged deal

Ignoring this exchange there still seems to have been about 25,000 bitcoins traded in the last 24 hours in China.
This is very close to the total usd figure.
I had no idea there were so many exchanges in China.

Here you can see how it developed over the last month:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/china-264812
They actually overtook the USD only a few days ago but there seem no end in sight.
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
Could it be back-and-forth arbitrage through a lot of 0%-fees promotions?


It could be just some website that gives fake volumes traded ....

If you give fake volume, why such unrealistic? Doesn't this defeat the purpose?
sr. member
Activity: 350
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Could it be back-and-forth arbitrage through a lot of 0%-fees promotions?


It could be just some website that gives fake volumes traded ....
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
btckan has market depth:
http://btckan.com/chart/btc100
the price would have moved several hundred yuan, if there is even that much there

and that rebate promotion is actually a sale of their shares, meaning the more you trade the more shares you get
in any case if its true, it must have been an arranged deal

Ignoring this exchange there still seems to have been about 25,000 bitcoins traded in the last 24 hours in China.
This is very close to the total usd figure.
I had no idea there were so many exchanges in China.

The last column is trading fee: http://btckan.com/price

As you can see many CNY exchanges have 0% fee now. This explains the high volume
hero member
Activity: 955
Merit: 1002
btckan has market depth:
http://btckan.com/chart/btc100
the price would have moved several hundred yuan, if there is even that much there

and that rebate promotion is actually a sale of their shares, meaning the more you trade the more shares you get
in any case if its true, it must have been an arranged deal

Ignoring this exchange there still seems to have been about 25,000 bitcoins traded in the last 24 hours in China.
This is very close to the total usd figure.
I had no idea there were so many exchanges in China.
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
Could it be back-and-forth arbitrage through a lot of 0%-fees promotions?
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
btckan has market depth:
http://btckan.com/chart/btc100
the price would have moved several hundred yuan, if there is even that much there

and that rebate promotion is actually a sale of their shares, meaning the more you trade the more shares you get
in any case if its true, it must have been an arranged deal
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
I warned you guys: volume of many CNY markets are not trustworthy, especially those new markets.

Trading 100,000BTC without moving the price up or down at all? That's insane

Look at this site: http://btc008.com/ . Their volume is extremely stable: before 23 Sept, they always had ~5000 per day; after 24 Sept, they always had ~10000 per day. It's simply impossible
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1004

I think - until i dont see the market depth (order book) - i dont believe this volume.

On the other side, its not really important  - in particular - until the price is the same as mtgox/bitstamp.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
What is the normal volume of this exchange? I'm guessing it's something less than 1000BTC. So how could something that does a tiny volume suddenly do 80,000BTC volume? I would think it to be technically impossible. There simply wouldn't be the liquidity, deposit/withdraw processing, exchange engine, order book depth, etc to do it. I mean I could see it maybe GROWING to that amount over a month or so, but not overnight.
They were steady at 1000+, then this happened 3 days ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3237296
Either they are manipulating their API stream or China has discovered the BTC.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1004

111.849,216 at the moment

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