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legendary
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September 09, 2014, 04:00:54 AM
Just one question.
When we release Teleport ?
I would have to stop goofing off so much and get back to coding a good solid stretch at a time, I estimate 1 week to beta IF I can avoid having to deal with fires.

I solved the escrow issue today and that was the last major thing for the SuperNET, so from here it should be pretty smooth running

James
full member
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September 09, 2014, 03:48:37 AM
Just one question.
When we release Teleport ?
legendary
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September 09, 2014, 03:20:50 AM
The telepod idea does seem very interesting, especially if the anonymity scheme it uses is better than coin mixing and ring sigs. I had a brief look at the way it works and it is pretty hard to understand, the white paper could use some diagrams. But I would be interested in seeing how compatible it is with the mini-blockchain scheme, keeping in mind that the mini-blockchain scheme does not use scripts at all and BTCD apparently has full turing complete scripting.

EDIT: ok well I think I understand it a bit better now, but I can't really understand why this isn't just a long winded way of making a normal tx. It seems to ensure that a new address will always be made for receiving payments, which is great for anonymity, but generating new addresses for receiving payments isn't exactly difficult to do without an elaborate system like this. Maybe I'm still not fully grasping the concept.

EDIT: also worth noting is that we actually discourage the use of sending coins to addresses which haven't been seen by the network before, because it increases the size of the account tree. To help prevent dust from bloating up the account tree we don't allow the output value to be lower than the tx fee if the receiving address doesn't exist in the account tree.

Sounds like syncing issues are taking over the thread but I x-post this anyway from the XCN (mini-blockchain coin) thread as I begin to think about the teleport tech more. It has been interesting to re-read the teleporting paper and re-think how teleport will actually happen. Not to introduce skepticism but to better understand is why I ask.

I wonder how BTCD and teleport will deal with the possible massive blockchain bloating issue that can occur with all of the proposed multi-level sigs? Also how to deal with all of the "dust" from sending to addresses that have not been seen by the network? (these ideas are from bitfreak! from XCN thread but I too am curious how teleport will handle these issues) Please correct me if I am way off.

The the M of N fragments are constructed and reconstructed offblockchain
the usage of addresses will not change the blockchain as BTCD isnt doing the miniblockchain thing. When you send to an address it takes the same space on the blockchain whether it is a new one or not. Now, if we are leaving behind utxo, there could be some extract RAM usage, but cloning totally spends all inputs, so this is not an issue.

The one thing that does increase the size a bit is using standard denominations, so sending 8 would be 5 + 1 + 1 + 1 or 4 inputs and outputs instead of 1 input, 1 outputs (incl change). But if you are sending 10 then it will actually save a bit of space due to not needing change output
hero member
Activity: 585
Merit: 500
September 09, 2014, 02:39:55 AM
The telepod idea does seem very interesting, especially if the anonymity scheme it uses is better than coin mixing and ring sigs. I had a brief look at the way it works and it is pretty hard to understand, the white paper could use some diagrams. But I would be interested in seeing how compatible it is with the mini-blockchain scheme, keeping in mind that the mini-blockchain scheme does not use scripts at all and BTCD apparently has full turing complete scripting.

EDIT: ok well I think I understand it a bit better now, but I can't really understand why this isn't just a long winded way of making a normal tx. It seems to ensure that a new address will always be made for receiving payments, which is great for anonymity, but generating new addresses for receiving payments isn't exactly difficult to do without an elaborate system like this. Maybe I'm still not fully grasping the concept.

EDIT: also worth noting is that we actually discourage the use of sending coins to addresses which haven't been seen by the network before, because it increases the size of the account tree. To help prevent dust from bloating up the account tree we don't allow the output value to be lower than the tx fee if the receiving address doesn't exist in the account tree.

Sounds like syncing issues are taking over the thread but I x-post this anyway from the XCN (mini-blockchain coin) thread as I begin to think about the teleport tech more. It has been interesting to re-read the teleporting paper and re-think how teleport will actually happen. Not to introduce skepticism but to better understand is why I ask.

I wonder how BTCD and teleport will deal with the possible massive blockchain bloating issue that can occur with all of the proposed multi-level sigs? Also how to deal with all of the "dust" from sending to addresses that have not been seen by the network? (these ideas are from bitfreak! from XCN thread but I too am curious how teleport will handle these issues) Please correct me if I am way off.
hero member
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Merit: 505
I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
September 09, 2014, 02:35:22 AM
I'm running v1.0.0.0-g32a928e my staking seems screwy my weight = balance without decimal place. Yesterday it said 26 days now it says 33 days...... Just doesn't look right

Also indicates fully up to date then anything up to 1K+ blocks behind...then up to date...repeat infinitely

Jon  Huh

Edit: might be out of line...but could it have anything to do with stake holders splitting there stake into multiple address's creating bloat on the blockchain ?
sr. member
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September 09, 2014, 02:33:51 AM
Wallet Issues

I'm also having issues with the BTCD wallet. Works fine on one computer, doesn't sync on my other computer. I've installed the new wallet and put in the .conf file and everything.



there is new version
did you get it from a few hours ago

Yeah I just installed it (20 minutes ago) from the top. Uninstalled the antivirus and everything on the computer that is having issues. It just won't sync at all. 
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 09, 2014, 02:27:06 AM
Wallet Issues

I'm also having issues with the BTCD wallet. Works fine on one computer, doesn't sync on my other computer. I've installed the new wallet and put in the .conf file and everything.



there is new version
did you get it from a few hours ago
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
September 09, 2014, 02:24:54 AM
Wallet Issues

I'm also having issues with the BTCD wallet. Works fine on one computer, doesn't sync on my other computer. I've installed the new wallet and put in the .conf file and everything.


hero member
Activity: 820
Merit: 1000
September 09, 2014, 02:06:24 AM
aehm, any1 have the guts to arbitrage from cryptsy?  Cheesy
After weeks, they finally just cancelled my withdraw request
If you are able to predict prices 3 weeks ahead then I highly suggest cryptsy for arbitraging, unless it is for more than 20 BTCD, those are blocked

How much btcd do you have stuck there on cryptsy? Is there any hints of weird behavior going on other than incompetence? Did they screw up somehow and don't have the btcd to cover depositers funds? How much of the total btcd do they hold? What is the significance of the btcd funds you have stuck on bter and their importance in relation to supernet?

Serious questions.
I have 4000 BTCD in cryptsy. The only way to get it out seems to be to sell it and withdraw the BTC and repurchase
I certainly dont have time for 200 withdraw requests

It appears to be total incompetence. I estimate that they have less than 10% of BTCD, probably only about 3%

The expected percentage of BTCD versus the SuperNET funding is 2% that is in bter. As soon as we get Trustees for BTCD, I will setup a regular sweep whenever the exposure gets too big

James

Bought around 1k couple of weeks ago at 9k and withdrew immediately without any problems. All my bots are also having no issues whatsoever withdrawing different cryptos (including BTCD) over the API to trusted addresses.
Does that include withdrawals within the last 24 hours?  I have 27 of them stuck now Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1237
Merit: 1010
September 09, 2014, 02:01:50 AM
aehm, any1 have the guts to arbitrage from cryptsy?  Cheesy
After weeks, they finally just cancelled my withdraw request
If you are able to predict prices 3 weeks ahead then I highly suggest cryptsy for arbitraging, unless it is for more than 20 BTCD, those are blocked

How much btcd do you have stuck there on cryptsy? Is there any hints of weird behavior going on other than incompetence? Did they screw up somehow and don't have the btcd to cover depositers funds? How much of the total btcd do they hold? What is the significance of the btcd funds you have stuck on bter and their importance in relation to supernet?

Serious questions.
I have 4000 BTCD in cryptsy. The only way to get it out seems to be to sell it and withdraw the BTC and repurchase
I certainly dont have time for 200 withdraw requests

It appears to be total incompetence. I estimate that they have less than 10% of BTCD, probably only about 3%

The expected percentage of BTCD versus the SuperNET funding is 2% that is in bter. As soon as we get Trustees for BTCD, I will setup a regular sweep whenever the exposure gets too big

James

Bought around 1k couple of weeks ago at 9k and withdrew immediately without any problems. All my bots are also having no issues whatsoever withdrawing different cryptos (including BTCD) over the API to trusted addresses.
newbie
Activity: 97
Merit: 0
September 09, 2014, 01:33:40 AM
HELP

All of my BTCD is stuck in stake and the blockchain is going backwards!!
hero member
Activity: 529
Merit: 505
I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
September 09, 2014, 01:08:19 AM
Maybe I'm missing some thing but would it be possible to put wallet version number next to or under the download link on OP. All I see is link to download site then BitcoinDark-win-qt.RAR . I can't tell if I'm already running

that version or not, it might save a few unnecessary downloads

Jon  Cheesy
 
member
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September 09, 2014, 12:31:48 AM
hello again. I am the one who posted here about the transferred of my bbr to vrc when it was 19k satoshis and i know its my fault of panic buying because it was successful when i bought bbr when james mentioned it and earned but lost it to vrc. My original plan was to earn from bbr then will transfer it to btcd. Now i lost almost 50 percent from vrc so its not possible now to reach my 50 btcd target but i believe its ok because i learned from my experience and i have to be positive. Im thinking now if i can beg for a donation to anyone from the community that understand me. We are thousands so maybe a little percent of us might understand me. If someone  give me 1btcd its a big help because i might reach my target slowly from a little donation.  I am willing to help here or work for the community whatever i can or maybe you can give  me some obligation or work here. Here is my btcd address RChrHMf9kMvbUwrnyFfMwhoADkJ96P6TDf    Thank you for your understanding.
do not be in a hurry, if you are you will lose
patience leads to success
if you are trading and not HODL, sell when others are buying, buy when others are selling

When the price is > fast moving average > slow moving average is a good time to sell
When the price is < fast moving average < slow moving average is a good time to buy

Trading is not easy, nobrainertrades.com is required study before you do anything other than HODL

James





Thank you. You've  really got my respect  james. You really deserve the  reputation you have. Actually i can wait for vrc to rise again just like what happened to bbr when you show your support to them but i was just too anxious that you will surprise us that you will release the teleport too soon. I hope it wont happen yet. But if it happens too early then maybe i  just have to be contented with the btcd i have which is below 50 btcd. I invested a little with supernet too but just a little as 9 token. I hope its enough for me to earn from supernet in the future that i can use for my everyday life. Just like what happened to me on btcd when it was just below 20k sat. If i only trusted btcd earlier then maybe i have around thousand btcd then i can just hodl and stake so i dont have to think and just always smile seeing the fast rise of the price of btcd while earning on staking and day dreaming the things happened to early investor of btc Smiley . Maybe even the time i bought when its around 50-60k sat but i tried to ride when i thought theres a pump and dump which i proved that its too hard to happen on btcd because the price just go up and i just lost my more than hundred of btcd. If only hodl since the start then it wont give me stress. The good thing here is im continue learning. Im anxious too now for the lurkers who are reading my post because they will see now that its always right time to invest on btcd because its always moving up whatever the present price of btcd so my chance of having more btcd will go down because  it might rise again . Maybe my only hope now is my investment in supernet and if i will be lucky that someone will donate even just a little btcd to me. RChrHMf9kMvbUwrnyFfMwhoADkJ96P6TDf

Sorry if im so desperate begging to get even just a little number of btcd because i was so frustrated before when btc went high to 1k dollars even i found out btc around late 2012 but didnt give much attention to it. Now btcd is here but still i dont have enough. Im not aiming now of too much btcd because i believe even just a few digits of  btcd  can make a living in the future when all of  james plans are already there

by the way i hope someone can teach me how to earn btcd aside from trading and buying.

from now on... I will just really HODL!
legendary
Activity: 1055
Merit: 1002
September 09, 2014, 12:26:30 AM
So they just haven't coins..? Or haven't coins on hot wallet?
Well tried withdraw just 1 btcd and it stucked too.. I hate cryptsy.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 09, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
I tried withdraw 17 btcd on trusted adress it stucked.. Hell.
they must have "run out" of BTCD in their withdraw wallet
now they have to wake up BigVern to refill it with another 20 BTCD

I am starting to really dislike cryptsy

James
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 09, 2014, 12:18:00 AM
Hi everyone, I noticed that many people seem to be having sync issues.

The problem seems to be a rogue message that has been taking up a lot of bandwidth. This was created during Teleport testing, and leaked to the network.

This has been fixed. I had the sync issues myself earlier today. I ran this version and still had them. Then, I deleted the blockchain (delete everything in C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\BitcoinDark EXCEPT wallet.dat and BitcoinDark.conf) and re-ran it.

No more sync problem, and I'm averaging 1kb/s Download and .5kb/s Upload bandwidth usage  Smiley

Azeh will update the op when he gets a chance, but for now here is the download:

https://mega.co.nz/#!ApVilbba!gO6mrhcvSdu-tOhjJ_8y39VhBzzuzSw-5ZMbbUDdVw0
SHA-256 Checksum: 35C9D728335699ADFABF27659076320DC2C360DE6FB9354D2A70863C06C2CE17

If anyone want to accurately verify the total number of blocks:

http://107.170.44.31/blockcount

Matthew

Since I'm posting, might as well give an update.

Teleport testing is going well, James is working hard on debugging it within btcd core. I am hard at work on that most gruesome, most evil task which can befall any developer: Building on Windows  Wink

I am not quite sure what happened with the testing but my wallet was really screwed up! It was going in and out of sync since 9/8/2014 around 3:00 AM CST. It was also staking like crazy but the size of the staked blocked were extremely small compared to previous staked coins.  I thought maybe the syncing issue was just crosstalk as I have seen this before with other coins. I sent 100 BTCD to an exchange and that never showed up. I then sent 1 BTCD to a different exchange to test and see if it was me and that never showed either. I sent two more transactions each 1 BTCD to test and nothing was making it through. I was really starting to get worried. I did what you said and redownloaded the blockchain and used this BTCD Wallet release. All my transactions including staked coins since 9/8/2014 around 3:00 AM CST now show as Conflicted, about 28 total, 22 of those were mined coins from staking. However, the good news is that the coins I sent are back in my wallet from the 4 transactions that never went through to two different exchanges. I take it I am good to send coins now? No syncing issues since I download and used this version of the wallet.
if you are synced to the blockchain then should be fine to send
sounds like you ended up on a fork
now that you are on the real blockchain, it is like whatever happened on the fork was just a dream
member
Activity: 109
Merit: 10
September 09, 2014, 12:15:03 AM
Hi everyone, I noticed that many people seem to be having sync issues.

The problem seems to be a rogue message that has been taking up a lot of bandwidth. This was created during Teleport testing, and leaked to the network.

This has been fixed. I had the sync issues myself earlier today. I ran this version and still had them. Then, I deleted the blockchain (delete everything in C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\BitcoinDark EXCEPT wallet.dat and BitcoinDark.conf) and re-ran it.

No more sync problem, and I'm averaging 1kb/s Download and .5kb/s Upload bandwidth usage  Smiley

Azeh will update the op when he gets a chance, but for now here is the download:

https://mega.co.nz/#!ApVilbba!gO6mrhcvSdu-tOhjJ_8y39VhBzzuzSw-5ZMbbUDdVw0
SHA-256 Checksum: 35C9D728335699ADFABF27659076320DC2C360DE6FB9354D2A70863C06C2CE17

If anyone want to accurately verify the total number of blocks:

http://107.170.44.31/blockcount

Matthew

Since I'm posting, might as well give an update.

Teleport testing is going well, James is working hard on debugging it within btcd core. I am hard at work on that most gruesome, most evil task which can befall any developer: Building on Windows  Wink

I am not quite sure what happened with the testing but my wallet was really screwed up! It was going in and out of sync since 9/8/2014 around 3:00 AM CST. It was also staking like crazy but the size of the staked blocked were extremely small compared to previous staked coins.  I thought maybe the syncing issue was just crosstalk as I have seen this before with other coins. I sent 100 BTCD to an exchange and that never showed up. I then sent 1 BTCD to a different exchange to test and see if it was me and that never showed either. I sent two more transactions each 1 BTCD to test and nothing was making it through. I was really starting to get worried. I did what you said and redownloaded the blockchain and used this BTCD Wallet release. All my transactions including staked coins since 9/8/2014 around 3:00 AM CST now show as Conflicted, about 28 total, 22 of those were mined coins from staking. However, the good news is that the coins I sent are back in my wallet from the 4 transactions that never went through to two different exchanges. I take it I am good to send coins now? No syncing issues since I download and used this version of the wallet.
full member
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September 09, 2014, 12:10:55 AM
aehm, any1 have the guts to arbitrage from cryptsy?  Cheesy
After weeks, they finally just cancelled my withdraw request
If you are able to predict prices 3 weeks ahead then I highly suggest cryptsy for arbitraging, unless it is for more than 20 BTCD, those are blocked

How much btcd do you have stuck there on cryptsy? Is there any hints of weird behavior going on other than incompetence? Did they screw up somehow and don't have the btcd to cover depositers funds? How much of the total btcd do they hold? What is the significance of the btcd funds you have stuck on bter and their importance in relation to supernet?

Serious questions.
I have 4000 BTCD in cryptsy. The only way to get it out seems to be to sell it and withdraw the BTC and repurchase
I certainly dont have time for 200 withdraw requests

It appears to be total incompetence. I estimate that they have less than 10% of BTCD, probably only about 3%

The expected percentage of BTCD versus the SuperNET funding is 2% that is in bter. As soon as we get Trustees for BTCD, I will setup a regular sweep whenever the exposure gets too big

James
Its better to try something different about the withdraw, it is not fair to sell them to other members and then they get stuck there and can't withdraw
20 BTCD seems to work, so it is possible to withdraw
yea i know it is which should be their(cryptsy) point in my opinion adding fee to every withdraw is better than letting coins stake
legendary
Activity: 1055
Merit: 1002
September 09, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
I tried withdraw 17 btcd on trusted adress it stucked.. Hell.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
September 09, 2014, 12:05:57 AM
aehm, any1 have the guts to arbitrage from cryptsy?  Cheesy
After weeks, they finally just cancelled my withdraw request
If you are able to predict prices 3 weeks ahead then I highly suggest cryptsy for arbitraging, unless it is for more than 20 BTCD, those are blocked

How much btcd do you have stuck there on cryptsy? Is there any hints of weird behavior going on other than incompetence? Did they screw up somehow and don't have the btcd to cover depositers funds? How much of the total btcd do they hold? What is the significance of the btcd funds you have stuck on bter and their importance in relation to supernet?

Serious questions.
I have 4000 BTCD in cryptsy. The only way to get it out seems to be to sell it and withdraw the BTC and repurchase
I certainly dont have time for 200 withdraw requests

It appears to be total incompetence. I estimate that they have less than 10% of BTCD, probably only about 3%

The expected percentage of BTCD versus the SuperNET funding is 2% that is in bter. As soon as we get Trustees for BTCD, I will setup a regular sweep whenever the exposure gets too big

James
Its better to try something different about the withdraw, it is not fair to sell them to other members and then they get stuck there and can't withdraw
20 BTCD seems to work, so it is possible to withdraw
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