Topic: BTCD is no more - page 35. (Read 1328503 times)

Thanks for your help.
I was able to get the wallet by downloading winrar. Couldn't  do it with 7zip though.

Try using 7zip to open the file.   The link on the first page of the forum  has the wallet  you need depending on your OS

Where can I download the wallet please?
On the front page of this forum I can't do it as the only download I see is "download soon".
On bitcoindark.com there's a wallet .rar I can't open and on MEGAsync I can't open the wallet either.
Thanks for your help.

max raise (not very easy to achieve) is required, plus community needs to agree on the exact percentage allocation of the bonus.

Well, I'm getting happier and happier each day. If you guys keep holder's bonus on top of that, I'll go cheer-leading too.

An even better deal than the original good deal we were offered, awesome!


I saw a similar situation with Crypti to Lisk conversion.

A lot of Crypti holders were complaining initially.

Crypti holders ended up with less than 9% of the Lisk supply, much more extreme "dilution" than we are talking about here.

I haven't seen any complaints about "dilution" from Crypti holders lately.....maybe because the BTC value of their holdings is up 350%+ from the Lisk conversion

An announcement regarding BTCD Swap rate and bonuses


There has been a lot of discussions about the BTCD swap rate, and whatever the 0.00532 BTC/BTCD rate is enough.

As the community was waiting for the coming announcement, the BTCD price had already climbed near this price. Once the announcement went live, the price had already reached its 'ceiling'. What made things look even worse was the ICO bonus system for BTC investors. Those bonuses would further lower the KMD share BTCD investors would get in the swap. In other words, some people felt that BTC investors have a significant edge, because they have the bonus system and the BTCD holders feel like they didn't get one.

To solve this, the allocation of BTCD in the ICO will be saved from dillution by applying the average bonus the BTC investors got to the swap rate.

Example: Lets say 10000 BTC are collected and 1000 BTC in early investor bonus was taken. That means the average bonus is 10%. This brings the BTCD swap rate to 0,005852.

When MAID gave you more than I could dream of, did it "feel right?"   

MAID gave me more then you ever can dream off, my little batty boy roflmao. Your scam will be revealed now a days and i will be the first who stands in line to throw the rotten tomatoes to you. Till then

You need to accept the fact that ICOscam777 is bending you over and taking advantage of your ignorance.

Don't worry if it "doesn't feel right."

You'll get used to it after a few more ICO scams.

Good thing MAID already gave you previous experience in being taken advantage of, am I right?   

This will be my last post - and will make my 3rd try at explaining the fallacies of Komodo ICO - I wish you guys the best..  Please make sure EVERY Komodo team member sees this and has the opportunity to rethink their logic..

This cannot (in a legal sense) be done by a vote, anymore than Nike Shareholders can vote to take other Shareholders shares or your neighbors can vote to sell your house for you at 1/7th of what you determine the sale price to be.  There ARE other ways to achieve sustainable development - contrary to statements "this is the only way", there are actually thousands of ways to achieve consistent developer funds..  Just need to find one that is NOT co-mingling or market fixing.  You can vote on NEW initiatives, but you cannot alter a prior agreement by a vote, ALL must agree to the new terms and conditions before the old agreement is replaced (please see Bitcoindark prior promotions to understand existing agreements).

Imagine you are on a jury, and dude says, "I'm not obligated to fulfill promotions", and then prosecutor asks, "did you make a promise that millions were invested in as a result, and which you yourself were an investor?" - How would a juror vote?

"Freemarket" - ALL PROMOTIONS and PROMISES need to be honored, the wallet released (with all the promoted tech), SuperNET and BTCD allowed to market adjust (after 2 years without a release), this needs to occur or could be considered 'fixing' the market.  There might be other ways to technically NOT be fixing the market or co-mingling, like the requirement that ALL KOMODO be acquired thru the buying of BTCD (kind of like Vericoin did with Verium - genius).

Please don't end up like this guy
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/us/liberty-dollar-creator-awaits-his-fate-behind-bars.html?_r=0
Really think about this..  Crypto currency is far more of a threat to Central Banks than Private Silver Money (Bitcoin exceeds some small nations).  If you speak out against FIAT, create something that is a threat to FIAT and worth millions, then comingle or market fix, dudes with shiny badges may pay you a visit.  JL777 is somewhat anon, and may be untouchable.  Can the rest of Komodo team say the same?

BTCD/SuperNET promotions
1a) Telepathy/Telepods/Teleportation?
1b) Ramchains?
1c) Pangea?
1d) InstandDEX?
1e) Pegged Asset Exchange (PAX)?
1f) Finhive (Skynet)?
1g) Market Maker Nodes (MMatrix Nodes)?
1h) Tradebots?
1i) delayed Proof of Work (dPOW - promoted in SuperNET slack channel)?
1j) Asset Independence (asset chains)
1k) Basilisk (Lite Mode)
1l) 13+ and counting supported BTC Clone Multi-Wallets in a single app

ZeroCash Tech
2) ZKP

Komodo ICO Tech above and beyond Iguana/SuperNET/BTCD/Zerocash
3a) ?
3b) ?

Komodo is more like 95% SuperNET / BTCD, not 80% Bitcoin..

For people who think that very few will invest in Komodo - BTCD price has been market fixed yet the value as predicted by whales is a min of 7X (as release nears) - why wouldn't Bitcoin investors want the 'FREE' value that likely would have gone to SuperNET/BTCD investors?

Hi BadAss.Sx,

There was some proposal about rewarding BTCD holders for the length they have held it for as a additional bonus.

But someone will need to work out how to figure this out for James and we as a group need to decide on that.

Like i said:

The true believers in BTCD (and most of them are from the beginning when price was high) don't participate in the % bonus you have in the ICO. That is the part i'm a little disappointing in with. I staked 2 years long to keep the network alive and it feels a little now that we have to stand back in the line and in front of us are the new believers. It doesn't feel right.

I'm sure you have the best intentions with all this, but for me personally it feels like a rip off. Price of BTCD will go until the ICO to the price you guys have decided, so at the end we get nothing while we supported the network and the coin till the end.

BitcoinDark is a very fair Coin.

As originally a POWer it was the first POS-Coin I could accept, cause it was build by POW mining Power.

So it has best of both worlds! POS is energy efficient, but it was build fair and by "true work", I mean POW.

The swap seems also pretty fair to me, if anybody does not want the swap, he could move to another coin. It's time enough. And if you wait a few months, you can get 50% plus and go away. Win-win-situation! If anybody thinks that isn't fair, I really don't understand the problem. You win if you stay, you win if you go!

BTCD was always fair!

I have much hope in the good solid work of James, even if the progress is sometimes slower than expected. But there IS a progress, the ZCASH-Algo and the dPOW are big steps. The decision was pragmatic, it's the best we can get!

With Komodo we have a great future, I like the concept and the people involved, also Azeh and the others. Thank you very much!

I don't understand how the mechanics behing would work... Probably depends on how you configure it?

The idea is not to integrate BTCD into KMD, but rather make it "coin-asset" where each wallet get's it's % of entire system gains in BTCD. Stakers rewards were automatically sent to each wallet by the script. Now if BTCD gets whatever % of total fees generated it can be bought off the market each day and sent to the wallets based on the amount of coins in it. BTCD holders get stable income everyone was dreaming about, KMD team gets ICO funds for the development. BTCD price goes up to infinity ... Everyone is happy, no?

BigCat45, can you elaborate more what that means and what is expected result of such action in all contexts?

I have an actual feasible suggestion:

After komodo ico is over, you could calculate the btc price per komodo for the btcd conversion using (XXXXX BTC ÷ 100000000 KMD)

This would give btcd converters a 10% advantage over the BTC donators who would be buying into 90000000 KMD in the ico

In that case, the btcd conversion would work out to be equivalent to 0.00591111 BTC invested at 0% bonus

That's an option to leave on the table, in the event that the ico raises a huge amount of BTC


Lisk gave Crypti holders a buyout of 1300 BTC out of the 14000 BTC raised, less than 10%

James is offering to give BTCD holders a buyout of ~6800 BTC.  Even if maximum 30000 BTC were raised, that would be 20%+, it's a generous offer as it is

small idea about bonuses. Take account balance every 10000 blocks, average it out. The closer it gets to the final balance - the bigger percent that wallet gets.

I have my reasons to have some trust in JL

BUT it does not mean I agree with what you do now in the poll, which is pure manipulations.

To point out:

1) BTCD holders have exactly the same choices now without the poll
2) Not only BTCD holders can vote here
3) it could be fair only if verified BTCD holders would prepare the questions and vote + 100% fair if vote weight = BTCD hold.

I do not vote. The poll is trash.

I understand BTCD holder have interest in KMD but it also works the other way. Komodo will not profit from shiting BTCD investors. Reverse impact can be bad as well and no one will profit from that.

JL - what will go wrong if we set lower max ICO or increase BTCD holders bonus to lower the emoitions?
1. Do you have any strong proof where it the bad border line and could you explain that?
2. Do you have cost plans for ICO collected BTCs?

When we focus on facts maybe emotions go down.

Currently we only focus on our opinions and some forecasts and expectations.

I thinks it's quite obvious recent statments could and did disappoint BTCD holders. Happy is mostly the team who will profit from ICO irectly is  + maybe some exceptions but not many, as you see here and in others threads.

PS
Also it counts againist ICO investors that current BTCD price tanks and insiders can invest more, later dump on ICO and BTCD swaps.
This is also fact, which proves sth was done not the right way.

But may be still time to repair it.